Thrasher" data-source="post: 15810550" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch">Thrasher said:
they aren't being recalled because thy seldom get any drive time compared to today's cars, just a matter of numbers
Provari, the ax has come for you
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they aren't being recalled because thy seldom get any drive time compared to today's cars, just a matter of numbers
I think you missed my point. FOR ME, and many others like me, the Provari is what works best for US. You are trying to dictate what I should most value, and you can not assume that. Not everyone has the same perspective as you, and not everyone has the same perspective as me.
Let's see how long those $10 - $50 setups last. I already explained that I got tired of replacing setups in that price range. My first Provari is 3 years old, has never been babied, and still works as good as when I bought it. IMHO, I got what I payed for. THAT'S what I value.
And none of those cheaper units vaped as smooth as a Provari. It's a subtle difference, but it is definitely there. The reason is how the Provari processor outputs power. Look in my "Why Provari?" blog for the link which explains this.
Let's just agree to disagree.
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Provari is like a tank, cant tell ya how many times I dropped my mini and it still works like a charm. I just seen they now have a update for the P3 that you can now vape at .5 ohm. you can take it to a shop or send it back to them for the update.
Mazda's blocks exploding
Toyotas catching fire
Subaru's blowing brake lines
Seatbelts in 54 caddies weren't exploding in peoples faces driving schrapnel into their brains.lol
Let's just agree to disagree.
I'll keep my 70s muscle you can have your computers
Toyotas catching fire
Subaru's blowing brake lines
Really?www.nytimes.com/2015/05/20/business/takata-airbag-recall.html
Seatbelts in 54 caddies weren't exploding in peoples faces driving schrapnel into their brains.lol
Let's just agree to disagree.
I'll keep my 70s muscle you can have your computers
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Provaris are like newspapers or old books. Man, they feel good to the touch, they smell absolutely wonderful, and there's a sense of satisfaction knowing you're still supporting a tried-and-true medium. But then again, you have that shiny new smartphone or tablet, and everything else is right at your fingertips.
In my opinion, why not have the best of both worlds?
In my opinion, why not have the best of both worlds?
Yes, once again, a thread for people to criticize each others' gear choices
I do not see this thread as a thread criticizing choices. Not at all.
ECF is a source of knowledge for a lot of people - either members or lurkers. It is for them. To know pro et contra.
I've never used or owned a Provari. At the moment I'm just vaping on an Evod, and I'm happy with it for the time being.
But I find it interesting that somebody mentioned Apple in this thread, because that is something that I can definitely relate to.
I only use Apple computers/phones/tablets and I have been doing so for decades, and I couldn't be happier using their stuff. I don't care if I can get a cheap Android phone for $50, I wouldn't even consider it, because what works best for me is a $700 iPhone, and I find it to be worth the price. You couldn't pay me to use a $50 Android phone. Not everybody sees cost/value in the same way.
If somebody else doesn't see the value in something, then don't buy it, but don't come and try to convince me that others should see things in the same way that you do.
If somebody likes vaping and owning a Provari is what works good for them, then who is anybody else to come and judge their choice of gear?
But I find it interesting that somebody mentioned Apple in this thread, because that is something that I can definitely relate to.
I only use Apple computers/phones/tablets and I have been doing so for decades, and I couldn't be happier using their stuff. I don't care if I can get a cheap Android phone for $50, I wouldn't even consider it, because what works best for me is a $700 iPhone, and I find it to be worth the price. You couldn't pay me to use a $50 Android phone. Not everybody sees cost/value in the same way.
If somebody else doesn't see the value in something, then don't buy it, but don't come and try to convince me that others should see things in the same way that you do.
If somebody likes vaping and owning a Provari is what works good for them, then who is anybody else to come and judge their choice of gear?
I didn't take it as a bash. Maybe it was. Everyone goes after the top dogs. Everyone loves a Cinderella story. Well except me, I am a University of Kentucky fan.
oh yeah.. Spending a little of that should make their stock go up... If I remember correctly I think the cash is overseas, so as to avoid the Us Income tax. It will be expensive to get that cash back in the US. I could be wrong, I have forgotten.
I do get your point, I'm not trying to dictate what is the best for everyone just saying..
a quartz watch is much more accurate and cheap than a rolex, works better and if you choose wisely it will live as long as a rolex, for me that's value for the money, but for some value is on the brand and that is fine! I don't judge and don't think it is wrong either way, but what does bug me a bit is that a lot of new vapers end up going for the provari because it is praised as the most durable better bang for the buck and best quality when it isn't for everybody
could be a number of reasons ... could be someone in construction who needs a very durable device.
or, it could be someone who does not want to keep throwing multiple $50 devices into the trash after they break.
some prefer to buy once and not worry about device failure.
You shouldn't allow yourself to lose any sleep over that. I already said a Provari isn't for everybody.
But people can do their own research and then decide if what the Provari offers is what will meet their needs & expectations. That's what I did. I listened to Provari owners and how happy they were with their purchase. How they wished they had just bought one at the beginning and not wasted so much money on the cheaper mods. After owning my own now for so long, I happen to agree with them.
If your experience happens to be different, then good for you. I'm just sharing my history and experience for others.
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I am not judging their choice. I do not judge your choice in an apple product although I find them inferior from a cost benefit point of view.
Similar to my analysis of a Provari. BTW.. not all androids are 50 bucks.... the good thing is though.... android users do have a choice.. That is where Apple fails.
just discussing here, I love your post and deeply respect you here in the community!
I feel exactly the same, word for word
I didn't read the whole thread, but to me my new P3 is more of a luxury item, where you pay for brand name and looks over function.
Like many others have said, I have isticks that have been as reliable as anything out there. There are mods with better warranty too, some even lifetime.
A Hyundai has a much better warranty than the one that BMW has, and it costs more than twice as much...But people will still buy it. Hyundai won't kill BMW, and neither will Beijing kill Provari, imho.
Different strokes for different folks.
Like many others have said, I have isticks that have been as reliable as anything out there. There are mods with better warranty too, some even lifetime.
A Hyundai has a much better warranty than the one that BMW has, and it costs more than twice as much...But people will still buy it. Hyundai won't kill BMW, and neither will Beijing kill Provari, imho.
Different strokes for different folks.
I see these "death of the Provari" posts at least twice a year, honestly it's not going anywhere.
If you feel like you need 50-60 or even 100w to get a decent vape the Provari is not for you. However, there IS a market for people who don't need that much power and those people will love the Provari and it's quality not to mention customer support.
If you feel like you need 50-60 or even 100w to get a decent vape the Provari is not for you. However, there IS a market for people who don't need that much power and those people will love the Provari and it's quality not to mention customer support.
speaking of the Rolex .... my Father bought a Rolex over 30 years ago, funny how, they still make the exact same watch today ... same style, same mechanism, same everything ... it is the same watch they made 30 years ago.
I can't really think of a 4 year old PV that is still made and sold today ... and I mean the same device they introduced 4 years ago.
Reminds me of the old saying ... why try to fix what's not broken?
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