14ml a day? How do you do that? I chain vape except when I'm asleep and don't go through that much. What are you using on your MVP?
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14ml a day? How do you do that? I chain vape except when I'm asleep and don't go through that much. What are you using on your MVP?
OMG!! 14 ml a DAY????!!!
Don't think even an iClear30 could suck up THAT kinda juice!!
Comma....you did say "VAPE".....not "DRINK", didn't ya??
Happy (vaping) Trails!
Don't think even an iClear30 could suck up THAT kinda juice!!
Comma....you did say "VAPE".....not "DRINK", didn't ya??
Happy (vaping) Trails!
Wait, the MVP uses a microUSB charger? I'm sold, I have two phones and 3 chargers, all microUSB, that'll make charging extremely simple, and I only need to pack one charger on the go!
Wait, hold on, did you just say 14mL a day? I vape 2, maybe 3mL. I vape 18mg mainly but am gonna up to 24mg, and unless you're vaping like 6mg, I don't see how you're not getting sick from that :O
I thought I chain vaped, I hardly ever set my PV down right now. Sounds like you might need to up your nic dosage or something lol
Hell, even if I chain vaped IN MY SLEEP, I couldn't go through that much juice.
That's one of the things I really like about the MVP; at work, there's normally two micro USB smart phone chargers plugged in up in operations, I've got a micro USB charger in my cars, and almost everyone that has a smart phone has a micro USB charger somewhere in the house.
throw some wattage at a nice dual coil set up and youll be lucky if 3 ml lasts an hour lol, one of the main reasons I stopped using duals
My old L2 510 kit lasted me 4 years before it needed to be replaced. I hadn't followed what was going on in the vaping world since I got the 510 in 2009, and coming back here a couple of months ago to see about a replacement was a huge culture shock. In my time the original Ego and cartomizers were the hot new things, VV/VW mods weren't even dreamed of yet, and rebuildable atomizers were also long off.
My MVP 2.0 and VV 3.0 are much better built than the old 510, and my Cronus clone, being a mechanical mod, doesn't really have anything to wear out, except of course the (replaceable) batteries. So yes, I do see myself still using them in 5 years, even if something new that dramatically changes our little corner of the world.
But frankly, I can't really see anything being as much of a paradigm shift as VV/VW technology, mechanical mods, and rebuildable atomizers. Better battery life will only be an incremental improvement, and that will be tied to battery technology as a whole (a much bigger world than ours) anyways. A new quick-release bayonet mount for atomizers (similar to modern SLR cameras and lenses) will just be a convenience. Perhaps a radically new atomizer system will be developed -- something that moves away from coiled resistance wire, but will that really improve the vaping experience? Maybe a more concentrated juice that still gives as much vapor and flavor as what's available now (requiring less juice volume, allowing a small ~2 mL tank that might currently give you one day of vaping to last for a week or more). But that would also have some serious safety concerns since nicotine is readily absorbed through the skin, unless some sort of new carrier is developed which keeps the juice inert until it is vaporized.
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In my opinion it boils down to one VERY simple decision.
How long do you see yourself vaping????
Something that is not asked here on the forums much, but it is a valid question.
If you see yourself vaping for a lifetime, then the ProVari will eventually pay for itself. While the price is a definite barrier to entry for some, the total cost of ownership for a Provari could be recouped in several years due to the outstanding quality of workmanship and the ability to purchase additional low cost batteries for the unit.
If you see yourself vaping to quit smoking, and eventually quit everything that resembles smoking, then I would say the MVP2 is more your speed.
Truth be told, if you continue vaping, you are more likely to grab the smokes later if your vaping setup fails (which is why many of us buy backups and backups to backups.). I have a good friend who's setup failed on them, and they immediately dropped back to smokes because their vape was unavailable.
If you are looking at vaping to stop the entire "smoking behavior" then purchasing a $160.00 to $200.00 mod is not going to help you. You will feel the need to continue so you can justify your expenditure. Whereas, if you drop $45 on an MVP (or $90 on two), you can more easily write that off as the cost to quitting and can walk away easier.
To be honest, I am on the fence. I love to vape, I am weaning myself off nicotine, but I know to be truly free of smoking, I need to develop coping tools that keep me from reaching for a cigarette or cigarette type device whenever I feel the need. Smokers and Ex Smokers know that if it were simply Nicotine we were trying to quit, then the patches and gum would have worked long ago.
It's the behavior that we eventually have to desire to quit and find better alternatives to reaching for the hand to mouth and other sensations we are habit bound to.
I am not making a judgement call here. To each his own. If you see yourself vaping as a life long pastime that you will continue to enjoy (like drinking coffee) then by all means, invest in the ProVari. You won't be sorry.
However, if you see vaping as simply a substitute for smoking by emulating the behavior, and you desire to break that habit, then don't invest anymore than you need to to eventually wean yourself off that behavior.
How long do you see yourself vaping????
Something that is not asked here on the forums much, but it is a valid question.
If you see yourself vaping for a lifetime, then the ProVari will eventually pay for itself. While the price is a definite barrier to entry for some, the total cost of ownership for a Provari could be recouped in several years due to the outstanding quality of workmanship and the ability to purchase additional low cost batteries for the unit.
If you see yourself vaping to quit smoking, and eventually quit everything that resembles smoking, then I would say the MVP2 is more your speed.
Truth be told, if you continue vaping, you are more likely to grab the smokes later if your vaping setup fails (which is why many of us buy backups and backups to backups.). I have a good friend who's setup failed on them, and they immediately dropped back to smokes because their vape was unavailable.
If you are looking at vaping to stop the entire "smoking behavior" then purchasing a $160.00 to $200.00 mod is not going to help you. You will feel the need to continue so you can justify your expenditure. Whereas, if you drop $45 on an MVP (or $90 on two), you can more easily write that off as the cost to quitting and can walk away easier.
To be honest, I am on the fence. I love to vape, I am weaning myself off nicotine, but I know to be truly free of smoking, I need to develop coping tools that keep me from reaching for a cigarette or cigarette type device whenever I feel the need. Smokers and Ex Smokers know that if it were simply Nicotine we were trying to quit, then the patches and gum would have worked long ago.
It's the behavior that we eventually have to desire to quit and find better alternatives to reaching for the hand to mouth and other sensations we are habit bound to.
I am not making a judgement call here. To each his own. If you see yourself vaping as a life long pastime that you will continue to enjoy (like drinking coffee) then by all means, invest in the ProVari. You won't be sorry.
However, if you see vaping as simply a substitute for smoking by emulating the behavior, and you desire to break that habit, then don't invest anymore than you need to to eventually wean yourself off that behavior.
OMG!! 14 ml a DAY????!!!
Don't think even an iClear30 could suck up THAT kinda juice!!
Comma....you did say "VAPE".....not "DRINK", didn't ya??
Happy (vaping) Trails!
yep,,,,,14ml a day,,and that's cutting DOWN,,,I was up to 20ml a day,,,,,,
I need a life,,,,,seriously,,,,I don't work and my kids are grown up
I use an Iclear 16 or an Iclear 30.
you'd be surprised how much you can go through. I do vape 0mg, though, and I'm SURE that's why I vape so much,,,,
I do vape less when I'm really busy though,,,,I think I need a job
exactly.
but I love the dual coils
and since I DIY with 0mg nic,,,,,,,who am I hurting? and it's cheap, cheap, cheap,,,,,,especially without nic,,,,,
I still can't get my head around 14ml. I believe you, but it seems almost impossible one could inhale that much without drowning. Your juice bills must be outrageous!
ETA: I missed that you DIY, but still - like I said, I believe you and Thrasher, but I can't comprehend it.
ETA: I missed that you DIY, but still - like I said, I believe you and Thrasher, but I can't comprehend it.
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It's important to note that the one with the extra features is, in fact, the MVP v2. Variable Wattage AND Variable Voltage, internal battery and charging, puff counter (silly, but a feature)... The MVP v2 has everything the Provari has, and more.
Wow. I've never seen it laid out like this, but this is by far the best argument for an MVP I've ever seen. Bravo.
The MVP is great, I run everything i have on it, from drippers to carto tanks, and it vapes like a champ. The best thing about it is i only have to carry one charger with wherever i go for now on, since the one it comes with charges both the device and my iphone. That being said I will still buy a provari when the novelty of my VTR wears off.
Since I started RBA/RDA, I use about 10 per day. Previously I was using 6-7 per day with clearos/Cartos.
My juice bills are staggering. But your Mod costs dwarf them...
Tapped out
Provari. I am not kidding, they have phenomenal customer support and stand behind everything they do! Plus if you can break one, they fix it even out of warranty for dirt cheap! Provari.
I have both and rarely use the provari. Mainly because some of the tanks I have at work are the small ego style which don't fit the provari but also because I frequently get the perfect flavor from my juice by adjusting the watts which you can't do on the provari.
The MVP2 is a battery. It is a big battery; it's also a passthrough battery, so you can vape while it charges.
The Provari is a tube for replaceable batteries. It is a high quality container, and comes with a warranty.
They are two completely different animals (and also, completely different costs for a different reason).
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