ProVari vs MVPv2

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cope

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did the popcorn some out....
the mvp is a good device i have one no problems with it and i know i will one day have to throw it away i good with it..i paid alittle more than 40 bucks for mine its all good..
i also have 2 provari i use the :censored: out of them and i know i will never throw em away..IF one ever breaks it can be fixed..:rickroll:
get what you can...a mvp will work just fine...for how long i dont know
 

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I spent a boatload of $$ on various and sundry batteries before I was gifted with a Provari. Knowing what I know now, I would have started with one and spent less than I did on GreenSmoke, G6, vv3, and the clearos and so forth that went with them. The difference in vapor and juice taste amazed me. So, if you have enough $$ to get a Provari, that is where you should spend it, IMHO.
 

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"Throw away" is often used describe the MVP. But look at reality - say the battery lasts 1 1/2 years, then you buy a new one. For the cost of a Provari, you can buy 7 1/2 years worth of MVPs. Of course, the Provari will need 5 new $10 batteries during that time, more than enough to buy another MVP, so break even on a Provari is somewhere beyond 9 years. That's not considering the cost of the external charger you'll need for the Provari.

If, during those 9 years, something better comes along (and who thinks they'll be using the same device even 5 years from now?), with the MVP you'll never have more than $40 invested, so switch. Fall out of your pocket somewhere along the way? A $40 hit is easier to take than a $200 one.

There's also the convenience of being able to charge the MVP from virtually any recent cell phone charger - microUSB is ubiquitous, no need to carry a separate charger around. Need an unexpected charge of one of your other USB chargable devices, the MVP will do that, too.

The Provari claims to be better built. Perhaps, but I don't see many complaints about MVP build quality or related problems. Provari does provide more "bragging rights," though, which is important to some. Some people like Rolexes, some people like Timexes. Both tell time just fine.

I used this arguments to argue against a ProVari for a long time....Now I own both an MVP and a ProVari...

Go figure...

The truth is, on paper, the ProVari is a sucker bet. The economics of a ProVari vs something like an MVP makes the ProVari look silly.

Then you put your hands on one, you feel the weight and quality in your hand. You feel the nice consistent vape from the unit from fully charged to fully discharged.

Once you have a ProVari in your hands and have vaped it awhile, then you understand.
 
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MVP2 for me too. I think I may get something that uses rechargeable and replaceable batteries once the mvp starts showing any issues. I bought a second one to have as a back up in case something bad happens to the first and will use that as a back up to what ever i get next, hopefully in a year or more. For now I am spending money on juices and different topper types :) Lots more fun for me than what battery I am using hehe

 

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I used this arguments to argue against a ProVari for a long time....Now I own both an MVP and a ProVari...

Go figure...

The truth is, on paper, the ProVari is a sucker bet. The economics of a ProVari vs something like an MVP makes the ProVari look silly.

Then you put your hands on one, you feel the weight and quality in your hand. You feel the nice consistent vape from the unit from fully charged to fully discharged.

Once you have a ProVari in your hands and have vaped it awhile, then you understand.

Yes it was hard to justify the price but went to a local vape shop and once seeing it, I knew that it would be money well spent. And they hold their resell value very well... but I doubt you will never need to worry about that as its fantastic.
 

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The truth is, on paper, the ProVari is a sucker bet. The economics of a ProVari vs something like an MVP makes the ProVari look silly.

on a paper that only lists price maybe. the MVP is nice, especially for the price. but the comparison is circa 1980s China vs. USA products. use it for a short period and throw it away, buy another or buy for a life time.

if the paper says what's in italics, then the MVP is the sucker bet.

truth is, both are nice mods that fill certain niche' markets. i just happened to have traversed both markets. from experience and as you know, the provari is the better buy regardless of the steep price differential.
 

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Everything you said is true. But you really have to own a ProVari for over 5 years before you get to a "break even" point.

I own both, and I love both.

But even the most ardent ProVari owner has to admit that it would take about 5 years of MVP ownership before you get to the price point of a ProVari.

The ProVari is my at home and weekend vape and I am amazed by the quality and build of the product. I have no doubt it will last for 5 years.

But I do understand the difference in price point and how it may be for some people.

But the bottom line, is once you vape and hold a ProVari for any length of time. You get it. If you've never owned one or used one, then it's hard to understand.
 

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Well, you can get the solid MVP 2 for $40 bucks including a tank, charging cable, all that.

Or.

You can get a ProVari with no tank, no batteries, no charger, just a tube (which, granted, I've heard has some of the most solid build quality and circuitry around) for ~$200+

I think it depends on exactly how .... you are, and how much money you have to spend.

I dont think .... factors into it at all.

Do you enjoy throwing your money away or do you want to buy something you'll still have 3 years from now?

To me its like renting vs buying a house.

When your parent and grandparents brag about how long lasting and dependable their car, washing machine, lawnmower, etc is thats because it saves them money in the long run and shows they are savvy buyers.
 
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Everything you said is true. But you really have to own a ProVari for over 5 years before you get to a "break even" point.

I own both, and I love both.

But even the most ardent ProVari owner has to admit that it would take about 5 years of MVP ownership before you get to the price point of a ProVari.

The ProVari is my at home and weekend vape and I am amazed by the quality and build of the product. I have no doubt it will last for 5 years.

But I do understand the difference in price point and how it may be for some people.

But the bottom line, is once you vape and hold a ProVari for any length of time. You get it. If you've never owned one or used one, then it's hard to understand.
My first ProVari was a V2 mini. I was scared to leave the house with it due to it's cost. I was scared I would damage it by dropping it at work or loose it, or have it get stolen. I used it at home and carried 3 1100mah eGo C twists that I ran through daily at work.

Then I bought a Vamo V2 to carry at work. Then I bought a couple more as they died.

I have since bought 2 used full sized ProVaris from the classifieds here, one was beat up black chrome model I got for $80 the other was a fully polished I paid $120 for because it was shiny. I am not afraid to haul either of them with me anywhere, and the $80 one is actually my favorite. The mini is setting, unused in the vape supply cabinet.
ProVari Family.jpg
 
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....Just dont drop your MVP on the pavement......and dont let it fall from your lap out of your truck onto a parking lot. I lost my first two this way.

Ive dropped the Provari's sooo many times. Even went into a glass full of iced tea.....and once in the toilet from my daughters back pocket. They are still kickin...... (BTW, they are only 159 bucks shipped)

Moral of the story is two fold i guess. The Provari takes a lickin and keeps on tickin........and I have a very clumsey family ( myself included) :D

I would like to say that I did buy two MVP's for my son in law and other daughter today at a local B&M. They are gonna try to quit smoking.......and I still think its the best bang for the buck in the vaping world......until you get serious about your vape. Dont shoot me...just my opinion.
 

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Everything you said is true. But you really have to own a ProVari for over 5 years before you get to a "break even" point.

I own both, and I love both.

But even the most ardent ProVari owner has to admit that it would take about 5 years of MVP ownership before you get to the price point of a ProVari.

The ProVari is my at home and weekend vape and I am amazed by the quality and build of the product. I have no doubt it will last for 5 years.

But I do understand the difference in price point and how it may be for some people.

But the bottom line, is once you vape and hold a ProVari for any length of time. You get it. If you've never owned one or used one, then it's hard to understand.

i dunno. i believe lot of that break even stuff is subjective and really depends on the users needs. if the user needs/wants over 5 volts or 11 watts, there is no break even point when comparing the two. the mvp simply is worth nothing since it doesn't meet the needs.

also, if you're not going to vape for 5 years and you're a member of this forum, the provari is still a better buy if you're willing to do some very simple leg work. they hold their value tremendously. if you don't beat it up and you have one for a year or so, you can likely get 90% of your purchase price back in the classifieds... and it will sell extremely fast. it's simple to get verified.

however, if you're budget minded or limited and may not be ready for a mech, the mvp is going to certainly be a best buy that's likely to check all your boxes. it's definitely worth a look for anyone reluctant to upgrade from cigalikes or egos that may be a bit apprehensive towards dropping big coin on something that may not have been proven to them to make a difference. this is especially true IMO for people who have not been able to completely quit smoking because the vapor production of their current equipment is sub par. often it seems they're more apprehensive to a larger purchase considering the idea that it may not be the nudge they need to quit completely thus it may be money wasted.

i too have purchased 4 MVP IIs and 2 provaris. though, i'm not sure i completely agree that your comparison based so heavily on price point with a perceived life of the MVP is going to fit all situations. for example, i have complete confidence that my wife is going to find a way to run hers over with a car at some point. if it's her provari, i have no fears. if it's her mvp, well, c'est la vie... good bye old pal. we'll miss you. :laugh:

let us also keep in mind that battery life is highly dependent on the hit or miss nature of battery cells (though that seems to be tremendously improving) and user care and knowledge. this could potentially be a major down fall to any single MVP unit depending on battery batch and who the owner winds up to be.
 
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