Provari vs. Vamo

[Buzzsaw46]

Re-read the post. It allows you to get a consistent vape using different resistances. A 1.5 ohm coil is not going to vape the same as a 3 ohm coil on the same voltage setting. On the same wattage setting it will ... because the device automatically lowers or raises the voltage based on the resistance of the coil.

I did not find this to be the case for me. Switching from a carto tank, to a Vivi nova, to a genesis required watt changes to get to my happy spot, yes it is easy to quickly change power settings with the Vamo, but I found it was too easy at times and would bump the power up or down buttons enough for it to be inconvenient. For me a way to lock the output would have been a nice feature.

One of the other things I don't like about the Vamo is the size, it is about the same size with an 18350 as a Provari with an 18490.

 

[tc1]

I did not find this to be the case for me. Switching from a carto tank, to a Vivi nova, to a genesis required watt changes to get to my happy spot, yes it is easy to quickly change power settings with the Vamo, but I found it was too easy at times and would bump the power up or down buttons enough for it to be inconvenient. For me a way to lock the output would have been a nice feature.

One of the other things I don't like about the Vamo is the size, it is about the same size with an 18350 as a Provari with an 18490.

Yes, different devices with different wicking and draw styles may require you to change settings, even with variable wattage ... though those changes tend to be smaller than if you were strictly using variable voltage. A genesis at 10 watts is going to be different than a Vivi Nova at 10 watts because they both have different limits and vapor production methods.

Just goes to show you that at the end of the day, coil and wick setup are the two biggest factors in vaping these days.

 

[Baditude]

Wait for Provari to do VW

Ill advised advice. If Provape was going to do VW it would have done so with the recent Provari upgrade of version 2.0 to 2.5, which was only a cosmetic change. I can't speak for Provape, but I personally doubt that they will ever offer variable wattage. It is only useful to a certain few vapors in the real world. I've seen many vapors here say that they rarely use their VV/VW mod in the VW mode.

If you are comparing a Vamo vs a Provari, there is no comparison. The Provari has a better build and better electrical components top to bottom. In addition, if the Vamo stops working after warranty, consider it a throw-away. China doesn't do repair work. Provape, on the other hand, will repair your Provari for as long as you own it.

 

[Oktyabr]

the Tesla blows the vamo out of the water

Meh... Tesla V2 will be much better once: they fix the spring issue (-1), the @#%$ who thought putting the buttons ABOVE the screen was a brilliant idea is replaced by a real designer (-1), and they kick amperage up around where the $40 vamo V2 is now (-1 for only having three amps). BUT... at least has an adjustable contact post (+1!) AND it does VW (+1!).

And here I thought the vamo looked like a lightsaber...

 

[junkman]

what is the advantage of vw anyways?It Does come with the .5 increment control vs .1..? Im honestly wondering.

But your analogy to apple has me thinking the same thing you were..

"Uh...

I don't seem to understand your point at all."

Well, sorry my analogy didn't do anything for you.

The advantage to VW is you control output. Not input. Output is the goal. Therefore it is a better way to skin the cat. It allows you to change resistance of your atomizer without worry and gets you within the ballpark of the setting you want regardless if you atomizer is 1.3ohm or 3.3ohm. Sometimes it is right on the money.

If you can't see that there is an advantage to that then you just refuse to see. What are the advantages again of a device that is VV only?

 

[thebong24]

Vv is for advance and vw for noobs who wants to set and forget ok lets move on and lets vape this away ... to get on to the topic if u want to spend $50 on ur device and can mimic the provari with vw then vamo is for u... if u want to have a accurate readings of ur voltages and reliabilty tested and tank build and have enough money to spend without complaining then ProVari is for u... other than that in the end u will be vaping heaven and it all matters is the top that ull be vaping ... :thumbup::beer::banghead:

sent from mars

 

[tc1]

VV/VW really has nothing to do with being a noob or not. Just different ways to achieve the same outcome. VW just happens to be a quicker way to achieve it with different resistances. Both are set to taste ... which is ultimately the important thing for all of us.

 

[junkman]

Vv is for advance and vw for noobs who wants to set and forget ok lets move on and lets vape this away ... to get on to the topic if u want to spend $50 on ur device and can mimic the provari with vw then vamo is for u... if u want to have a accurate readings of ur voltages and reliabilty tested and tank build and have enough money to spend without complaining then ProVari is for u... other than that in the end u will be vaping heaven and it all matters is the top that ull be vaping ... :thumbup::beer::banghead:

sent from mars

We will move on when comments such as yours are no longer then norm.

There is nothing that relagates VW to noobs.

Is it more user friendly and therefore more noob friendly? Yes. Does that mean that those experts such as yourself with vast experience can't get benefit from VW? No.

I am not at this point discussing differences in particular mods. There are clear quality and customer support differences between a VAMO and a Provari. But that has nothing to do with the relative merits of VV and VW.

 

[mmikee]

Vv is for advance and vw for noobs who wants to set and forget ok lets move on and lets vape this away ... to get on to the topic if u want to spend $50 on ur device and can mimic the provari with vw then vamo is for u... if u want to have a accurate readings of ur voltages and reliabilty tested and tank build and have enough money to spend without complaining then ProVari is for u... other than that in the end u will be vaping heaven and it all matters is the top that ull be vaping ... :thumbup::beer::banghead:

sent from mars

Ah, condescension, never takes long in these threads.

 

[thebong24]

Good got u guys attention... of course im being sarcastic since u guys debating about vv and vw... now move on to the topic geeshhh light up!

sent from mars

 

[thebong24]

We will move on when comments such as yours are no longer then norm.

There is nothing that relagates VW to noobs.

Is it more user friendly and therefore more noob friendly? Yes. Does that mean that those experts such as yourself with vast experience can't get benefit from VW? No.

I am not at this point discussing differences in particular mods. There are clear quality and customer support differences between a VAMO and a Provari. But that has nothing to do with the relative merits of VV and VW.

U dont know me I don't know u so u cant judge me about the benefits I got from vw or vv so easy on ur words PAL! now lets drink and vape :thumbup:

sent from mars

 

[sawlight]

The answer is coming soon! Then we can argue about the benefits of VW and VV, not the benefits of the devices.

 

[jazon1]

honestly VV or VW does not make a whole lot of difference to me most of us use the same atty or same few attys myself i use two 99% of the time vivi nova's with 1.8 ohm coils at 4.2v or 7.5W and my cartos i use boge 3.0 ohms at 5v i do not use VW with them because the whole on/off/on/off rattle snake way of giving voltage does not work as good as a solid voltage for them IMO.

but my point being most of us use the same attys day to day and it is not hard to remember a few voltages that we use for them and the whole 3 seconds it takes to adjust the voltage when we switch them hardly makes a VW a better option,
im reality it just comes down to personal preference they both work fine.

 

[sawlight]

honestly VV or VW does not make a whole lot of difference to me most of us use the same atty or same few attys myself i use two 99% of the time vivi nova's with 1.8 ohm coils at 4.2v or 7.5W and my cartos i use boge 3.0 ohms at 5v i do not use VW with them because the whole on/off/on/off rattle snake way of giving voltage does not work as good as a solid voltage for them IMO.

but my point being most of us use the same attys day to day and it is not hard to remember a few voltages that we use for them and the whole 3 seconds it takes to adjust the voltage when we switch them hardly makes a VW a better option,
im reality it just comes down to personal preference they both work fine.

I agree, I don't find the need for it either, but there is a WANT for it. so what's wrong with providing people with what they want?

 

[SoberSnyper]

P(W) = V(V) × I(A)

So watts are equal to volts times amps:

watt = volt × amp

or

W = V × A
Example

What is power consumption in watts when the current is 3A and the voltage supply is 5V?

Answer: the power P is equal to current of 3 amps times the voltage of 5 volts.

P = 5V × 3A = 15W

Hope this clears things up for some that are still on the vv vs vw..
Why we need vw?

While everything you said above is true, I like to look at the constants, ie what power you like to vape at and the resistance of your carto or atty. In this case I like to use the formula

P(watts)= V(voltage) squared(or V X V) divided by R(ohms)

I then use algebra to solve for V(voltage) and get the following formula

V(voltage needed)=the square root of P(watts) X R(resistance)

So if I like vaping at 9 watts and have a 2.4 ohm carto then my voltage would need to be set for (square root of 9 X 2.4) or 4.65 volts.

But I think we both know a lot of people just want to plug in any atty and have the device automatically adjust the voltage, to me its not a big deal, everyone has a cell phone and they all have a calculator function don't they?

 

[sawlight]

While everything you said above is true, I like to look at the constants, ie what power you like to vape at and the resistance of your carto or atty. In this case I like to use the formula

P(watts)= V(voltage) squared(or V X V) divided by R(ohms)

I then use algebra to solve for V(voltage) and get the following formula

V(voltage needed)=the square root of P(watts) X R(resistance)

So if I like vaping at 9 watts and have a 2.4 ohm carto then my voltage would need to be set for (square root of 9 X 2.4) or 4.65 volts.

But I think we both know a lot of people just want to plug in any atty and have the device automatically adjust the voltage, to me its not a big deal, everyone has a cell phone and they all have a calculator function don't they?

But it's so much easier than that! MOST people like to vape at 8 watts, so if you take the resistance and add 2 to get the voltage, this is pretty spot on, up to 4ohms, but not many go that high anyway. Then it's easy to adjust to taste.
I don't know why people make figuring voltage so hard, it's too cool, it's just right, or it taste like burnt ....! Doesn't matter, VV or VW, nobody likes burnt ....!

 

[yellowrider]

Funny how things work.. Things are repeated over and over, and then regurgitated for the 5th time and then everyone's hitting the like button. Some just come here to disagree with others, other come to just back up their fanboy base. Starting forget why I am even here trying to help.
To remain back on topic, according to the guru in here, you dont need vv/vw, just take huge breaths of air and hope for good throat hit.

 

[Faylool]

Soon we will be playing our battery's and devices and fingers and mouths and timing and angles of devices metered breathing and draws tapping buttons like a flute making o rings and fog and personal musical songs in various flavors and colors dripping or soaking and so on and so forth......Bring on new and more .This fun everyone!

 

[DPLongo22]

I can only speak for myself, but I'm much more concerned about the first letter of the (VV or VW) equation than the second. As long as I can move the (X) thing to where I need it to be, I'm happy. Do what you want with letter #2, but please don't mess with my first "V".

Thank you very much.

 

[flintlock62]

I'm sure Provari not having a vw keeps some people away from them. Maybe they will upgrade to that some day. I also know they've had numerous requests for a vw option. What many people don't understand is the expense of developing a circuit board, and then they have to have enough sales to cover the cost of development and manufacturing the new board. It costs more than some realize, and I'm not sure a small company such as theirs can tolerate such a huge capitol investment for an extended period. Having been in a design engineering environment for most of my life, I know one small mistake can result in huge losses. For a small company, the impact of such said losses can spell disaster.

EDIT: One thing to rant on here, is some people who debate the vv/vw option on the Provari, own mechanical mods, and then purchase Kicks to make them work the way they want. No one complains the mechanical mods don't already come with the Kick option.