Provari...why do people get uptight?

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Katdarling

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One word that is rare in the vaping world: DEPENDABILITY

It works - every - time. And if it does not, you send it in for repair. Where do you send your Vamo or ego?


To the nether regions of the vape drawer...

... or that box in the guest room ... that box called "I don't want it, I don't need it, it doesn't work, maybe somebody can fix it someday, I hate that thing, I'm tired of it, it's ugly".
 

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First, not taking any sides here. I'm sure a Provari is a superb, high quality device. However, I've also noticed similarities to Apple-loyalist discourse; Apple products/Provaris are the only valid option as everything else sucks, and those who claim anything else are simply ignorant. I own an Innokin SVD that I'm very happy with and don't feel the need to get a Provari nor do I ever expect to do so. There are several reasons for this, none of which are based on any suspicions that a Provari would be anything but a great device. $200 (or whatever it may be to get one here in Europe) isn't much compared to what I was spending on smoking, but it is significantly more than other VV mods that more or less do the same thing (albeit possibly not doing the same thing quite as well as a Provari). It's also a lot of money if I happen to lose it during a night of well-mannered binge drinking, and I don't want to be limited to an EGO when out and about. Also, the repair costs for the Provari come close to the price of some other mods, and more when factoring in shipping costs to and from the US. A cheaper mod also makes it easier for me to justify the purchase of a new device when something interesting hits the market. Having said all that, these are MY reasons for not getting a Provari and others have other priorities. I do, however, object to the "throw it away and get a Provari"-responses to people having issues with their EGOs or non-Provari mods.

Your opinions on this are almost exactly the same as mine. IMO the Provari and the Reo are the two most reliable, most durable and best supported PVs on the market. But they are not the best PV for everyone. There is no such thing as a best PV for everyone and there never will be. Nor will there be a best car, computer, house, or anything else for everyone. That's OK with me.

I've held this view since early in my vaping journey. I quickly realized that rivalry exists between enthusiasts of various devices or processes here like in every other group of hobbyists/technophiles. There's no way around that, it's human nature. It might be better if we didn't indulge in this activity, but then again, where's the fun in that :rolleyes:

Well, a couple suggestions-

1. You are going to read the same topic over and over here- it's the nature of the forum. Since we try to help new members and don't tell people 'google is your friend' or do a search- either get used to it, or don't read threads that don't interest you. And for goodness sake, don't comment if that's the case. Someone else will.

2. Read the persons post before answering.

3. Remember what it was like when you started vaping. Post information they can understand. Links are helpful. Initials/abbreviations aren't. They don't know what your talking about.

4. Lets keep helping people do what many of us were able to do for the first time in our smoking lives- quit smoking!

5. Keep the jokes and graphics for other sections.

:thumb: Well said Caridwen!

It can get a bit silly with the 'just get a Provari (or mech mod, or RBA)' comments when they are obviously not appropriate, but I think that happens a lot less lately and when it does it's mostly from the newer crowd.

For me what makes ECF great is that we help so many people. It's a win-win scenario; we feel good about doing it and others learn. Not really reading posts and responding appropriately, and silly bickering both take away from that.

And that's it for my soapbox tonight ;)
 

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To the nether regions of the vape drawer...

... or that box in the guest room ... that box called "I don't want it, I don't need it, it doesn't work, maybe somebody can fix it someday, I hate that thing, I'm tired of it, it's ugly".

When did you visit my studio?
 

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Exactly! It's called 'contempt prior to investigation'! I started with Halo G6 cig alikes and loved them. Then, after a couple of weeks I upgraded to a couple of Vision Spinners and loved them too! I was perfectly happy with them for the first few months, and I still like them and use them. I probably wouldn't have 2 Provaris if I hadn't had an unexpected windfall, so to speak. I researched for weeks and weeks, and it always came down to the Provari being a solidly built, reliable device that you could set and forget. Upon reading further, I found out that the company totally stands behind this product. I went to Provape and looked at them countless times before I made a decision. I bought one and within 2 weeks I bought another. Granted, I could afford to do it and not everybody can. That's fine. I don't put anyone down for using a cig alike, ego type battery, VV/VW mods, or mech mods. If I hadn't lost a parent and received a small amount of money, I'd still be happily using twist type batteries. What bothers me is the fact that I mentioned somewhere else that I was going to get a Provari and folks came out of the woodwork saying how I was going to turn into one of "them". That really kind of sucked. I'm not a pretentious person and resent being labeled as something or other because of the device I use. It's all about just not smoking, right? So when someone comes into a dedicated sub forum, asks what the big deal is with Provaris, but seems to provoke an argumentative *discussion*, I get a little resentful. Contempt prior to investigation. I've been guilty of it many times in my life, but if you really want to sincerely know about the device and have researched online, go hold one at a local B and M, try it, then come back and comment. Sheesh people...It's really all so silly. Aren't we all on the same side? Our very rights to even be able to vape freely are being challenged. I think there are bigger issues to worry about....just MHO. That's my :2c:

edited to add. I hadn't read through the entire thread when I posted this and see things have calmed down a bit now, so forgive my wall of text if it seemed like a rant....just felt like responding to the theme of the thread. Have a lovely day all!!

Just jumping in, excuse me for not reading all the posts yet.

Certainly people are entitled to their opinion about a product. What annoys me are members who start threads asking why people like ProVaris and when the owners respond, we are told that we are saying it's good only to justify spending too much money. If someone gets one and it turns out not to be quite what they wanted, no problem. But if they don't have one, I resent being told I'm a status-seeker or fell for hype. It's not my only mod. Do you ever see ProVari owners start threads asking what's so great about XXX and then putting down owners who post why they are happy? I don't pass judgement on what other people vape, why do they feel the need to pass judgement over one of my mod choices.

And on the same topic - it seems to be a right of passage or something for some members to go on threads in the ProVari sub-forum just to state they will never get a ProVari and proceed to post everything they don't like about it. Why? Don't they have anything better to do?
 
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Someone mentioned variable wattage re the Provari and that it's outdated?
Don't see the point of VW when one has a finely tuned accurate device. Too many bells and whistles lead to complications.

Just because it's doable, doesn't mean we have to have that feature.
Provari outdated?

Why fix or alter something that is damn near flawless.....
 

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Question on Provari...I would like to know on average regardless of juice...how high can the provari go to on voltage without the taste getting nasty.

I am using a dual-coil 1.5 smoketech carto, or are all mods the same when it comes to this. I would like to go as high as possible with my 1.5 dc and still get a quality vape. Any opinions because this can be a selling point for me on whether to purchase one. I do not use tanks or any other fancy cartos.
 
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Question on Provari...I would like to know on average regardless of juice...how high can the provari go to on voltage without the taste getting nasty.

I am using a dual-coil 1.5 smoketech carto, or are all mods the same when it comes to this. I would like to go as high as possible with my 1.5 dc and still get a quality vape. Any opinions because this can be a selling point for me on whether to purchase one. I do not use tanks or any other fancy cartos.
The juice "tasting nasty" is more the result of burning the e-liquid with too much heat, regardless of what battery device is providing the current. It doesn't matter if its a Vamo, ZMax, a Tesla, a Provari, or a Semovar. If you are cooking the juice too hot, its going to taste nasty.

If I am not mistaken, the Provari has a 3.5 amp limit, as do most of the regulated mods out on the market presently. There may be a couple that can push more but I don't know which they are. More that can't do 3.5 amps.

A 1.5 ohm coil fired at 5.2v is 3.4666 amp. Theoretically the Provari will fire that carto up to 5.2v, but I've never felt the need to use such a low resistance coil at that voltage setting so I've never tried it. Good luck finding a mod that will fire one at 6v.

Just curious, what battery device are you using now with the 1.5 ohm dual coil? At what voltage?


The Safe Vaping Power Chart is a useful guideline for those using single coil cartomizers. Using a 1.5 ohm single coil above 3.4v will be in the red zone. Even factoring that a 1.5 ohm dual coil carto is two 3.0 ohm coils working together, anything over 5v is in the red zone.


 
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I just purchased a VAMO yesterday and I am not impressed at all. I have been using two configurations and there is no consistency with this mode. I click it 5 times and it does not go on. I have to do it twice. Then I hit the power button and sometimes it does not fire.

I do not care if it was 10 dollars. I got better reliability with a kgo. I find that based on what I am reading thus far about the provari, 200 dollars is cheap if it performs the way people are saying it does. Another point well taken. Also yesterday the 18350 did not even power up after it was fully charged for quite sometime. It is working now but the consistency sucks.

Also, I sent an e-mail to the vendor about the 18350 and got no response. The vendor was tropical vaper whoever they are. ".......n the pusher man''
 

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I couldn't justify the weight for the size (mini Provari). I found I like the Watts settings that the Provari does not have. It just wasn't comfortable for me to use. I'm not knocking them by any means. Just not for me.

This response is what I wish those who do not care for ProVari would say and by those who actually owned one. You've actually used one/tried it out and it just didn't work for you. You said so tactfully w/out bashing the product or belittle those who do love it. THANK YOU! And thx for your honesty!

All mods are not for all, everyone has a favorite or two or three! Just like everyone has a diff opinion on clearos, cartos, top coil, bottom coil, no coil....different strokes for different folks.
 
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