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The thing is, if you are over the recommended wattage, you torch the coils. It is a pretty low number....I think 7 watts...
Edit: you actually torch the silica in the coils, which causes flooding.
Tapped out
Edit: you actually torch the silica in the coils, which causes flooding.
Tapped out
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I think we should ponder Logan's issue over a beer at the Deaddog Saloon.....after all, it is a ProVari issue isn't it?
I used to mod at a pretty busy philosophy forum. Enjoyed it immensely when I'd get chewed out for splitting or moving a thread. Seriously, I did enjoy it, the philosophical types really know how to ream you something existentially fierce lol! It was interesting to see how some people think. Anyway.....looks like we get to keep this thread here!
So True. I've seen anti-mod troublemakers on my car forum. They seem to have an aversion to authority. Unfortunately I've also seen it get under a mod's skin. And nobody likes the result when that happens. However I trust that the mods reading or approving threads like this will see it's good natured and actually very relevant in it's current location.
Let's try not to push it though. Hell, I have no doubt that some mods are holding a ProVari whilst doing their due diligence. They are our friends and deserve respect.
P.S. any day I can squeeze "whilst" into a post is a successful day
Ah, I miss read/misunderstood. I thought this thread was going to be moved to the lounge. Lazy reading on my part. I was jumping in with some positive reinforcement for a vote to keep it here. No offense intended mods.
I dropped my ProVari while testing out a new harness at work on a JLG lift. It bounced about 6 inches. Took a little chunk out of the bottom cap. I can now verify the 510 connection in a Tatroe cap will not break off in a ProVari when subjected to a 17 foot fall.
The ProVari fired up no problem with a new tank.
The ProVari fired up no problem with a new tank.
You are an honest beast. I didn't want to blast you out publicly, but looks like you beat me to it anyway.
......snip......
I had no issues whatsoever.
A Lannister always pays his debts.
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So how's ur Provari! (Throwing off mods to figure out WTH happened?) is there another chat area for Provarinati's in the lounge for normal chit chat? I couldn't find it.
My batt should be coming today btw..ya!
My batt should be coming today btw..ya!
IDK if there is a Provarinati Chat thread in the Lounge. I stay here in the Model Specific -> Provari Sub and hit refresh all day. The vast forum is overload for me and frankly I'm uninterested in learning about the countless mechs or the mech enthusiasts' chit chat. I have not a single thing against them, but it's just too much to wade through.
Only when it gets slow here, do I step away and check out "new posts", and even then I have to thumb through several pages to find something that tugs on my interest bone. When I come to the ProVari section, there is always something relevant to my interest.
stevegmu, testing a new harness off a JLG? Like as part of a safety demo, or as part of goofing around? I can't imagine fall protection is tested anywhere but in the safety of a controlled environment. On a related note, I know a co-worker that tested fall protection for the military long ago. It failed and he now has a permanently disabled ankle. He wobbles around wherever he has to go and the latches on to the first thing he can grab when he gets there to hold himself up on his good leg. We call him King Crab. LOL
Only when it gets slow here, do I step away and check out "new posts", and even then I have to thumb through several pages to find something that tugs on my interest bone. When I come to the ProVari section, there is always something relevant to my interest.
stevegmu, testing a new harness off a JLG? Like as part of a safety demo, or as part of goofing around? I can't imagine fall protection is tested anywhere but in the safety of a controlled environment. On a related note, I know a co-worker that tested fall protection for the military long ago. It failed and he now has a permanently disabled ankle. He wobbles around wherever he has to go and the latches on to the first thing he can grab when he gets there to hold himself up on his good leg. We call him King Crab. LOL
Good Morning Folks...
Today's vape-mail will be including a Kir Fanis Varadero tank, Atmistique ...... drip tip, another Sophia rebuildable atty by Leo, (Thanks again for selling me the sexy Sophia jetcity.. ) some Tasty Vapor Doublers, and two delrin Slap Yo' Mama carto tools. I've been wanting the optional long-body with built-in DT for Sophia, and jetcity was wise enough to include it with her initial purchase. If I were to have ordered it alone, the shipping cost would have been about 1/2 the cost of the long-body.
I have a pretty flexible day going on to setup Sophia / Varadero and get some juice mixed. I've had my eye on the Varadero, and I like the fact it's made to look good on the ProVari without needing a ring or Hippo. It was also nice to have found it on the classies instead of ordering from Greece. I don't like the absence of a top fill hole, hence needing the Slap Yo' Mama. I haven't messed with cartos or their tanks for quite awhile until the Diver and Sophia made the scene.
Speaking of the classies.. I also happened across a member who purchased a bunch of the great performing Aspire BDC clearomizers. These are the large 3.5ml versions with a glass tank & protective metal cover with slots to see the juice level. He let them go for his cost of $5.00 each.. Fantastic deal. He sold them all in a heartbeat. The reviewers are raving about these for good reason.. They DO work VERY well. 
I hope everyone has a great day!
Today's vape-mail will be including a Kir Fanis Varadero tank, Atmistique ...... drip tip, another Sophia rebuildable atty by Leo, (Thanks again for selling me the sexy Sophia jetcity..
) some Tasty Vapor Doublers, and two delrin Slap Yo' Mama carto tools. I've been wanting the optional long-body with built-in DT for Sophia, and jetcity was wise enough to include it with her initial purchase. If I were to have ordered it alone, the shipping cost would have been about 1/2 the cost of the long-body.I have a pretty flexible day going on to setup Sophia / Varadero and get some juice mixed.
I've had my eye on the Varadero, and I like the fact it's made to look good on the ProVari without needing a ring or Hippo. It was also nice to have found it on the classies instead of ordering from Greece. I don't like the absence of a top fill hole, hence needing the Slap Yo' Mama. I haven't messed with cartos or their tanks for quite awhile until the Diver and Sophia made the scene.Speaking of the classies.. I also happened across a member who purchased a bunch of the great performing Aspire BDC clearomizers. These are the large 3.5ml versions with a glass tank & protective metal cover with slots to see the juice level. He let them go for his cost of $5.00 each..
Fantastic deal. He sold them all in a heartbeat. The reviewers are raving about these for good reason.. They DO work VERY well. I hope everyone has a great day!
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Good morners,
Sounds like an awesome day for a vape tweaker. I'm gonna have to get my hands on a Sophia soon. I just ordered my second Diver off the Classies yesterday. And thanks to someone's great link, I have enough NR/R wire, cups and wick to not need to buy cartos for a year. 
I hope you share some Veradero pics. I love all things Kirf. Wanna see that drip tip too. I have mixed feelings about the top fill screw. I tend to prefer to use a longer drip tip so the knurled screw doesn't contact my lips during a hit. Not a huge deal. But also filling with a syringe is tedious. Unless the outside of the needle is perfectly dry, juice will create a seal in the hole and suddenly the pressure in the tank from squeezing juice in, can flood the Diver. If only the hole was a little larger.
I'm glad you popped into the Saloon TNut, been wanting to ask you a Biker question. Ever met a biker chick with a bullfrog patch on her vest? I just learned what it means and think it's awesomely hilarious.
Sounds like an awesome day for a vape tweaker.
I'm gonna have to get my hands on a Sophia soon. I just ordered my second Diver off the Classies yesterday. And thanks to someone's great link, I have enough NR/R wire, cups and wick to not need to buy cartos for a year. I hope you share some Veradero pics. I love all things Kirf. Wanna see that drip tip too. I have mixed feelings about the top fill screw. I tend to prefer to use a longer drip tip so the knurled screw doesn't contact my lips during a hit. Not a huge deal. But also filling with a syringe is tedious. Unless the outside of the needle is perfectly dry, juice will create a seal in the hole and suddenly the pressure in the tank from squeezing juice in, can flood the Diver. If only the hole was a little larger.
I'm glad you popped into the Saloon TNut, been wanting to ask you a Biker question. Ever met a biker chick with a bullfrog patch on her vest? I just learned what it means and think it's awesomely hilarious.
I was just seeing how comfortable it was. We got a bunch of new ones in at work and I was trying out different sizes and checking mobility with a new type of anchor point. We have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to safety; anyone goofing around when it comes to safety is escorted to the door, never to return. Had the ProVari in a front pocket of the harness, but the pocket was a little too shallow.
Ahhhh, gotcha. Zero tolerance on safety violation is a good thing. If I didn't know better, I'd say you are in the Union Building Trades, yes? I'm a UA Journeyman Steamfitter, and proud of it.
I've brought up the idea of a social thread before.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provari/478239-i-wonder.html
I even posted a thread in the ProVape supplier forum asking if we could have a social sticky like the Reo Lounge, but they never answered.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provape/478283-im-wondering.html
Perhaps the difference is that the Reo is made by one person and having a community is important to his sales, whereas ProVape is an actually company, not as dependent on word of mouth for customers.
There is a ProVari "Group," but it's a different kind of discussion. Navigating through the forum to find a group isn't easy. I was a member of one for about 5 months before I ever found it. Groups also don't have the same kind of input. Groups end up being a small number of people posting repeatedly, instead of having posts by new people with questions or to share their enthusiasm at getting a new ProVari.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/groups/provari-users.html
It's the new posts that keep a section going - questions are answered, comments are added, information is shared. And sharing of information does take on a social aspect:
so·cial
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adjective
1.
of or relating to society or its organization.
synonyms: communal, community, collective, group, general, popular, civil, public, societal More
antonyms: individual
of or relating to rank and status in society.
"a recent analysis of social class in Britain"
needing companionship and therefore best suited to living in communities.
"we are social beings as well as individuals"
relating to or designed for activities in which people meet each other for pleasure.
"Guy led a full social life"
synonyms: recreational, leisure, entertainment, amusement More
noun
noun: social; plural noun: socials
1.
an informal social gathering, esp. one organized by the members of a particular club or group.
"a church social"
synonyms: party, gathering, function, get-together, soirée;
Unless responses to posts are copied and pasted from the instruction manual, they are going to be social in some way.
Perhaps part of the confusion comes from the description of the sub-forum. The Model Specific Discussions, such as this one, in the APV section are described as forums for "enthusiasts."
en·thu·si·ast
enˈTHo͞ozēˌast/
noun
1.
a person who is highly interested in a particular activity or subject.
"a sports car enthusiast"
synonyms: fan, devotee, aficionado, lover, admirer, follower;
Quite a conundrum. There is no doubt I am a ProVari enthusiast, so by strict definition I could post anything I like, ProVari-related or not, to other ProVari enthusiasts in an area designated for ProVari enthusiasts . Perhaps I'm mistaken in thinking that threads in the Lounge are for people who have things in common other than being devotees of a specific device.
If these Model Specific Discussions are not actually meant to be for enthusiasts, then perhaps it should be clearly stated that threads should pertain to technical issues only. Of course, that would pretty much turn this discussion into a ghost town, since how many post are entirely about technical issues? Just so you know, asking where to find a drip tip to match your tank isn't a technical question, or even a ProVari question, since you might use it on another mod without telling anyone. Technically looking for a drip tip should be posted in the "Where can I get a..." sub-sub-sub-forum. If you don't know where that is, you had better start looking. It's on the 2,000th post test. If you flunk, you have to go back to the New Members forum and post 5 times to get out. You will also lose your hotel on Broadway and your Tatroes.
I don't mean to sound critical of the mods. They do a thankless job I wouldn't want. I appreciate the effort they put forth to keep this forum civil and mature, but I wonder if in some situations they are making more work for themselves. I have read the rules. In fact, I have read the rules a few times recently trying to discern how they were applied in certain situations (nothing to do with this forum), and there are areas the rules don't cover at all. If the rules aren't clear, it suggests specific decisions are left up to the personal discretion of the individual mod. That's fine; it's their call, but if the decisions are inconsistent and contradictory, it doesn't do much in the way of providing direction of what is acceptable for future posts.
I think my observation about the "cleaning up" of this section actually echoes some of what Classy posted. It's true that cleaning up takes time, so then why read a two page thread and go to the trouble of moving it, when it is almost dead from natural causes? A Zap is a rebuildable, so perhaps it should be in the rebuildable section, but does anyone other than ProVari owners use a Zap? I don't know, which means if I was a mod I would have to ponder that for a minute or look it up. Realistically, if someone posted a question about a Zap in the rebuildables sub-forum would there be more helpful replies or more replies critical of owning a ProVari? Perhaps we should do a survey.
But I digress. Sort of. I wonder how long it takes to read a thread, consider whether or not it should be moved, decide what section it would be more appropriate in and go through the mechanics of moving it? If a thread is rudimentarily topical to the section it was originally posted in and has not been reported for TOS violations, is the endeavor worth the effort?
And, so, back full circle to all things ProVari. I went temporarily insane (should I post this in the Health section?) and have another one coming this afternoon. Which, of course, meant it had to have it's own tank, Loki ring and Serenity sleeve (would this be better in the "Show us your pretty..." thread?), which I accidentally ended up buying 2 of (does the Health section have a Mental Health sub-forum? If I put one up for sale in the classys would that be considered a cross-post?). He is a full-size Knight in Polished Armor, I have named Sir Galahad (Lounge material most certainly). Alas, I still won't be able to post pictures of the court until all his accouterments arrive (Lounge or Mental Health, it's a toss up).
o/t: Gaddamitt! I just discovered it snowed last night. I am displeased.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provari/478239-i-wonder.html
I even posted a thread in the ProVape supplier forum asking if we could have a social sticky like the Reo Lounge, but they never answered.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provape/478283-im-wondering.html
Perhaps the difference is that the Reo is made by one person and having a community is important to his sales, whereas ProVape is an actually company, not as dependent on word of mouth for customers.
There is a ProVari "Group," but it's a different kind of discussion. Navigating through the forum to find a group isn't easy. I was a member of one for about 5 months before I ever found it. Groups also don't have the same kind of input. Groups end up being a small number of people posting repeatedly, instead of having posts by new people with questions or to share their enthusiasm at getting a new ProVari.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/groups/provari-users.html
It's the new posts that keep a section going - questions are answered, comments are added, information is shared. And sharing of information does take on a social aspect:
so·cial
ˈsōSHəl/
adjective
1.
of or relating to society or its organization.
synonyms: communal, community, collective, group, general, popular, civil, public, societal More
antonyms: individual
of or relating to rank and status in society.
"a recent analysis of social class in Britain"
needing companionship and therefore best suited to living in communities.
"we are social beings as well as individuals"
relating to or designed for activities in which people meet each other for pleasure.
"Guy led a full social life"
synonyms: recreational, leisure, entertainment, amusement More
noun
noun: social; plural noun: socials
1.
an informal social gathering, esp. one organized by the members of a particular club or group.
"a church social"
synonyms: party, gathering, function, get-together, soirée;
Unless responses to posts are copied and pasted from the instruction manual, they are going to be social in some way.
Perhaps part of the confusion comes from the description of the sub-forum. The Model Specific Discussions, such as this one, in the APV section are described as forums for "enthusiasts."
en·thu·si·ast
enˈTHo͞ozēˌast/
noun
1.
a person who is highly interested in a particular activity or subject.
"a sports car enthusiast"
synonyms: fan, devotee, aficionado, lover, admirer, follower;
Quite a conundrum. There is no doubt I am a ProVari enthusiast, so by strict definition I could post anything I like, ProVari-related or not, to other ProVari enthusiasts in an area designated for ProVari enthusiasts . Perhaps I'm mistaken in thinking that threads in the Lounge are for people who have things in common other than being devotees of a specific device.
If these Model Specific Discussions are not actually meant to be for enthusiasts, then perhaps it should be clearly stated that threads should pertain to technical issues only. Of course, that would pretty much turn this discussion into a ghost town, since how many post are entirely about technical issues? Just so you know, asking where to find a drip tip to match your tank isn't a technical question, or even a ProVari question, since you might use it on another mod without telling anyone. Technically looking for a drip tip should be posted in the "Where can I get a..." sub-sub-sub-forum. If you don't know where that is, you had better start looking. It's on the 2,000th post test. If you flunk, you have to go back to the New Members forum and post 5 times to get out. You will also lose your hotel on Broadway and your Tatroes.
I don't mean to sound critical of the mods. They do a thankless job I wouldn't want. I appreciate the effort they put forth to keep this forum civil and mature, but I wonder if in some situations they are making more work for themselves. I have read the rules. In fact, I have read the rules a few times recently trying to discern how they were applied in certain situations (nothing to do with this forum), and there are areas the rules don't cover at all. If the rules aren't clear, it suggests specific decisions are left up to the personal discretion of the individual mod. That's fine; it's their call, but if the decisions are inconsistent and contradictory, it doesn't do much in the way of providing direction of what is acceptable for future posts.
I think my observation about the "cleaning up" of this section actually echoes some of what Classy posted. It's true that cleaning up takes time, so then why read a two page thread and go to the trouble of moving it, when it is almost dead from natural causes? A Zap is a rebuildable, so perhaps it should be in the rebuildable section, but does anyone other than ProVari owners use a Zap? I don't know, which means if I was a mod I would have to ponder that for a minute or look it up. Realistically, if someone posted a question about a Zap in the rebuildables sub-forum would there be more helpful replies or more replies critical of owning a ProVari? Perhaps we should do a survey.
But I digress. Sort of. I wonder how long it takes to read a thread, consider whether or not it should be moved, decide what section it would be more appropriate in and go through the mechanics of moving it? If a thread is rudimentarily topical to the section it was originally posted in and has not been reported for TOS violations, is the endeavor worth the effort?
And, so, back full circle to all things ProVari. I went temporarily insane (should I post this in the Health section?) and have another one coming this afternoon. Which, of course, meant it had to have it's own tank, Loki ring and Serenity sleeve (would this be better in the "Show us your pretty..." thread?), which I accidentally ended up buying 2 of (does the Health section have a Mental Health sub-forum? If I put one up for sale in the classys would that be considered a cross-post?). He is a full-size Knight in Polished Armor, I have named Sir Galahad (Lounge material most certainly). Alas, I still won't be able to post pictures of the court until all his accouterments arrive (Lounge or Mental Health, it's a toss up).
ProVari, ProVari, ProVari, ProVari, ProVari, ProVari, ProVari, ProVari, ProVari, ProVari, ProVari, ProVari, ProVari
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(For those of you who don't yet know me very well, I often post long opinionated rawrs when I wake up too early.)
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(For those of you who don't yet know me very well, I often post long opinionated rawrs when I wake up too early.)
o/t: Gaddamitt! I just discovered it snowed last night. I am displeased.
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Another point to add to what has already been said: Protanks are fussy about temperature. The thick glass and metal are often not the same as the ambient temperature and the juice sometimes has difficulty vaporizing. I inadvertently ended up being one of the first people in the US to get a PT 1 and the temperature issue was something I noticed immediately. Holding it in your hand to warm it up or allowing it to cool down (being left in a car is often what makes it too warm) will improve perfomance.
Something else: This is a trick I use, I hope I can describe it without it sounding like I put a lot of effort into it. When I fill a PT, I slide a q-tip up the center hole to keep juice from getting down into the tube (this is with a PT1, I don't know if the PT2 is too narrow to do this). When it's full, the base back on and flipped over, before I even put it on the battery, I take a cold draw. If I hear (or more likely feel with my lips) and gurgle, bubble or resistance, I slide a q-tip down the center tube to blot any juice.
Now this part is hard to explain. I have learned to do it with all my clearos and cartos and it works. If it's still bubbling, I take a q-tip, or a piece of paper towel and hold the bottom end completely blocking the airflow. I then take slow draws (inhale) through the drip tip against the resistance, like drawing through a blocked straw. I'm not sure what it does, but I think the pressure forces the liquid to the path of least resistance, which is the q-tip/paper. I'll take a draw, then remove the paper and take a draw without resistance; after a couple of times it won't bubble. Then I put it on the battery and take a cold draw (no power). It may start bubbling a little again. This is where experience/practice comes in. If there is only a little bubbling, slow powered draws will burn it off; if there is more bubbling, I remove the tank and do the blocked straw thing again.
Also, when using a PT, I don't let it run almost dry for very long. If you've ever looked closely at a tank or clearo where you can see the bottom, you'll notice it can get a bit sludgey down there and the Protank coils don't like it. This can be especially true of high ratio vg juices. Have you ever noticed that pg and vg sometimes separate in a tank? The pg rises to the top. i am currently using 100% unflavored vg to which I've added some of my flavored regular 70pg/30vg juice. Since they are different colors, I can really see the separation and have to tip the tank back and forth to mix them.
Everyone's mileage varies, but I've been doing this for while and bet I spent more time using cheap clearos than most vapers. Neener².
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Speaking of Protank problems, I have been having bubbling/leaking problems, but its only when I rebuild them. If its a brand new head right out of the box its fine. I have a feeling its something to do with the way i wrap the coils. Anyone else have issues like that?
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A powerful substance extracted from coffee beans that releases endorphins when ingested, providing a feeling of extra energy and euphoria.
can also: enable moments of extreme clarity and focus for ventilating dissatisfaction and contempt on the internet.
No union, but a great company. Corporate has rolled out a new 'life-saving rules' policy to prevent accidents and save lives/injuries. I work in thermoplastics extrusion and re-enforcing.
The Fastenall harness guy came in last week with demos and new equipment to try out so we could decide on which products to order. As it was Sunday and there weren't a lot of people around, I got a chance to try out some of the new equipment and pick out a new harness for them to order. I hardly ever use a JLG, but use harnesses when up on hopper/dryer mezzanines, so have to get so many hours in to be safety certified.
Yeah, I'm proud to work for the company I work for and in American manufacturing.
caffeine [kaf-FEEN]
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A powerful substance extracted from coffee beans that releases endorphins when ingested, providing a feeling of extra energy and euphoria.
can also: enable moments of extreme clarity and focus for ventilating dissatisfaction and contempt on the internet.
You want to read a major Rawr? Check out my posts in this thread (I have rawrs on both pages).
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...american-made-eliquid-flavorings-chinese.html
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