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FringeChief68

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I just bought another Radius.
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I been looking for another one or two :laugh:
The ones I got are not doing so good :(

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I drove from Phoenix to the Grand Canyon some years back. The portion getting to Flagstaff was beautiful. Oak Creek Canyon, Sedona, Flagstaff...all gorgeous. From Flagstaff to the Grand Canyon..Zzzzz. Flat, barren, boring. You go thru miles of nothingness and then suddenly you come upon this deep gash in the ground. An amazing site and a must see for every American. Makes you say to yourself, "I'm nothing".

That is exactly the way I felt on a trip that started from Phoenix. Even as long as I stared, I was was not able to comprehend that the floor of the canyon below me was a mile away, or of the miles to the other side. And then the thought of how long it must have taken for the river to produce that - another hard thing to grasp.

But something that affected me more, I think was the Indian reservations I drove through. Just for reference, my mother grew up in the backwoods of the Ozark mountains. My grandfather lived into his 90s, never had running water or indoor plumbing, and that wasn't an issue for him. So I've seen poverty - where people are miles away from grocery store, may not have money to buy food even if there was one, and depend on whatever they could grow in a garden (with every bucket of water hand carried from a well) or the squirrel they managed to kill for their sustenance.

That said, the worst poverty I have ever seen (include Appalachia here too) was on those reservations. There wasn't electricity within miles. No coverings over the windows - no, not talking about curtains as there wasn't even glass. Only sand for a surface meaning you couldn't even grow your own food. No doubt the Indians have a lot of self-imposed problems. But it still struck me as to how hard life would be having to live as if it were in the 1800s.
 

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What annoys me about Indian Reservations is they ARE awful land I mean Indians inhabited some of the most beautiful places on earth like Sedona (my favorite.) Where they live now, ooh scary and horrible.

I think the Indians are like the Jews, in the sense of "never forgetting." I think they totally get to be Drama Queens for the rest of time. I actually think what happened to them was worse than the Jews if you like count the Small Pox blankets.

If I had to live on a reservation I would totally be into huffing.

Anyone want to go to hell, it is a small town called Page, AZ. They actually gave it to the Indians but they hated it so much they actually GAVE it back to the US government. :lol::lol::lol:.

We drove through Page on our way to the Grand Canyon. It was the WORST, the absolute worst town of all time. There was a Mexican place we entered and we backed out hastily and it was FULL of botulism, I think. We went to a coffee shop for decent coffee and we asked for 24 ounce cups.

LOL my husband and the teens staffing the establishment had this exchange.

"Can I get two 24 ounces of coffee."
"I think we might be out of that size." Long, cow like gazes.
"Well... perhaps you could check in the back."
Long ,cow like pause.
"Well, can one of you LOOK?"
"Oh, I guess..... " One ventures toward the back and looks.
"That wasn't really through.. Do you need some help?"
"Um, I think we are out."
"You guys are the WORST. I bet you hate it here, we hate it here and we have been here for 20 minutes, there's graffiti everywhere and that tells me you are bored and stupid."
Looking at the husband like he was some kind of God, Yeah... there is a lot of crime, actually. We do hate it here, there's nothing to do. "
"Can you like, give me 3 20 oz cups then."

LOL it was nearly as epic as my exchange with a WV woman who was staffing a gas station. I don't like creamer I like half and half or milk. I looked and there was like, liquid creamer or powdered stuff. I asked the woman if there was any milk or half and half,." She proudly like, pulled it out and said, "We have the powdered stuff right here.... and here's the liquid stuff."
"Yes, I know. That is actually the same thing, only one has water in in it. Do you have any half and half?"
"half en half?"
"Or you know..... MILK? From a COW?" You know? Oh gosh never mind.. thank you for showing me the stuff, I will take the liquid stuff. Thank you,."

I asked my husband about her and he said she gave him the wrong change, too, he finally gave up.

BUT, we went on a boat trip for the kid (who had FUN, so yeah) only it was a bus trip where "Bob, so you can spell my name backward and forwards." And we discovered like ,we were ORIGINATING from Page, and we had to deal with Bob the whole time, pointing out like Indian places where they filled up 500 gallon drums for their water with lighthearted jokes and not only that we got there early and "BOB Or Bob" took us on a cheery tour of the town and the entire

Going to Page twice sucked big time. It really did. Oh, we are so messed up house wise.

We are going to have to go back to the hole in Tucson. I just know it. I am going to KILL m'self. GOD.

Anna
 

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What annoys me about Indian Reservations is they ARE awful land I mean Indians inhabited some of the most beautiful places on earth like Sedona (my favorite.) Where they live now, ooh scary and horrible.

I think the Indians are like the Jews, in the sense of "never forgetting." I think they totally get to be Drama Queens for the rest of time. I actually think what happened to them was worse than the Jews if you like count the Small Pox blankets.

If I had to live on a reservation I would totally be into huffing.

Anyone want to go to hell, it is a small town called Page, AZ. They actually gave it to the Indians but they hated it so much they actually GAVE it back to the US government. :lol::lol::lol:.

We drove through Page on our way to the Grand Canyon. It was the WORST, the absolute worst town of all time. There was a Mexican place we entered and we backed out hastily and it was FULL of botulism, I think. We went to a coffee shop for decent coffee and we asked for 24 ounce cups.

LOL my husband and the teens staffing the establishment had this exchange.

"Can I get two 24 ounces of coffee."
"I think we might be out of that size." Long, cow like gazes.
"Well... perhaps you could check in the back."
Long ,cow like pause.
"Well, can one of you LOOK?"
"Oh, I guess..... " One ventures toward the back and looks.
"That wasn't really through.. Do you need some help?"
"Um, I think we are out."
"You guys are the WORST. I bet you hate it here, we hate it here and we have been here for 20 minutes, there's graffiti everywhere and that tells me you are bored and stupid."
Looking at the husband like he was some kind of God, Yeah... there is a lot of crime, actually. We do hate it here, there's nothing to do. "
"Can you like, give me 3 20 oz cups then."

LOL it was nearly as epic as my exchange with a WV woman who was staffing a gas station. I don't like creamer I like half and half or milk. I looked and there was like, liquid creamer or powdered stuff. I asked the woman if there was any milk or half and half,." She proudly like, pulled it out and said, "We have the powdered stuff right here.... and here's the liquid stuff."
"Yes, I know. That is actually the same thing, only one has water in in it. Do you have any half and half?"
"half en half?"
"Or you know..... MILK? From a COW?" You know? Oh gosh never mind.. thank you for showing me the stuff, I will take the liquid stuff. Thank you,."

I asked my husband about her and he said she gave him the wrong change, too, he finally gave up.

BUT, we went on a boat trip for the kid (who had FUN, so yeah) only it was a bus trip where "Bob, so you can spell my name backward and forwards." And we discovered like ,we were ORIGINATING from Page, and we had to deal with Bob the whole time, pointing out like Indian places where they filled up 500 gallon drums for their water with lighthearted jokes and not only that we got there early and "BOB Or Bob" took us on a cheery tour of the town and the entire

Going to Page twice sucked big time. It really did. Oh, we are so messed up house wise.

We are going to have to go back to the hole in Tucson. I just know it. I am going to KILL m'self. GOD.

Anna
Just so you know, the "agree" I just ticked on this post relates to what you said about Indians, not your killing yourself.
 

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I drove from Phoenix to the Grand Canyon some years back. The portion getting to Flagstaff was beautiful. Oak Creek Canyon, Sedona, Flagstaff...all gorgeous. From Flagstaff to the Grand Canyon..Zzzzz. Flat, barren, boring. You go thru miles of nothingness and then suddenly you come upon this deep gash in the ground. An amazing site and a must see for every American. Makes you say to yourself, "I'm nothing".
On the one hand I agree. The canyon is completely amazing and breathtaking. I loved it.
On the other hand I disagree. I'm a living breathing unfathomable sometimes smelly being. Rocks and stone and water have their being-ness, but not such to make me say I'm nothing.
 

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