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I can't resist.

80,000 died. But I haven't seen any reports that any hospital in the US had problems back then finding beds or otherwise dealing with all the patients.

Or staff dying simply by treating patients.

Or rationing respirators.

Or people dying who had no symptoms less than a week before.

Or numerous double digit amount of deaths in nursing homes.

There is so much info being thrown around that it's really hard to find the truth. This stuff is not the normal flu. Previous flu strains always showed symptoms before they had the ability to infect others.

And no, there's no reason to hide under a bed for the next year. But we are all flying blind. I've decided that I am not going to cower but hold a healthy respect for what can happen and take what I've found from medical literature to form my own sound practice.

Remember, even after this is over with and we're happy to have "dodged the bullet" no one will know how many people they may have infected that didn't.

I've been sitting here looking at this for 10 minutes now trying to decide if I delete or post. If I do hit the post button, I have to say that to avoid a great site of escape and friends from becoming an ideological battlefield this will be my only comment on the subject.
 

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I can't resist.

80,000 died. But I haven't seen any reports that any hospital in the US had problems back then finding beds or otherwise dealing with all the patients.

Or staff dying simply by treating patients.

Or rationing respirators.

Or people dying who had no symptoms less than a week before.

Or numerous double digit amount of deaths in nursing homes.

There is so much info being thrown around that it's really hard to find the truth. This stuff is not the normal flu. Previous flu strains always showed symptoms before they had the ability to infect others.

And no, there's no reason to hide under a bed for the next year. But we are all flying blind. I've decided that I am not going to cower but hold a healthy respect for what can happen and take what I've found from medical literature to form my own sound practice.

Remember, even after this is over with and we're happy to have "dodged the bullet" no one will know how many people they may have infected that didn't.

I've been sitting here looking at this for 10 minutes now trying to decide if I delete or post. If I do hit the post button, I have to say that to avoid a great site of escape and friends from becoming an ideological battlefield this will be my only comment on the subject.
Flying Blind?!?

just like a wutang bat?!?

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FLASHBACK - SEPTEMBER 26, 2018
80,000 people died of flu in the U.S., highest death toll in 40 years :blink:

CDC: 80,000 people died of flu last winter in the U.S. - STAT
Making a bad year worse, the flu vaccine didn’t work very well. Experts nevertheless say vaccination is still worth it, because it makes illnesses less severe and save lives.

“I’d like to see more people get vaccinated,” Redfield told the AP at an event in New York. “We lost 80,000 people last year to the flu.”

CDC officials do not have exact counts of how many people die from flu each year. Flu is so common that not all flu cases are reported, and flu is not always listed on death certificates. So the CDC uses statistical models, which are periodically revised, to make estimates.
they seem as confused and contradictory about the flu as they are regarding the Wuhan bug...except they want to give everyone a shot, because it doesn't seem to allways work, but it makes the sickness less severe?:unsure: but they can't prove that...
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Just got back from N Arizona so now I know what all of it looks like. Much of it his hideous. Much of it is just.... nothing. The pretty parts are either not good in some ways, or like have issues (do not build your house upon clay and rock, etc.

IDK what happens next. We met a UPS driver in a small town who said the "entire, and I do mean whole town" was sick in December and since then they had 2 cases. He is convinced they all had it.

We drove past the Apache reservation and it was all closed down and like signs about "don't drive down this road, illness lives here, " and stuff. and well, it was sad. I'm sure they have little hospital facilities and large (if I know anything about Indians, well, they aren't a health bunch: diabetes, frail elderly, huffing paint, drinking and smoking too much. It kinda got me to thinking about social engineering and such. Perfect virus to like, wipe out the elderly and the dead.

I heard of a study in Israel about deaths, comparatively , of the countries in full on quarantine or kind of halfway, like the US and they said the difference in numbers of dead was like 0.01 percent. I believe it could be true. longer given its incubation period, but eh . Israel does seem fascinated by this virus, I can't wait for the results of the vaccine from them.

But I'm alive, so far. Confused but alive. Kappy Kirthday KAS!! :)

Anna
 

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they seem as confused and contradictory about the flu as they are regarding the Wuhan bug...except they want to give everyone a shot, because it doesn't seem to allways work, but it makes the sickness less severe?:unsure: but they can't prove that...
:blink:
Ben Dover and find out!!!

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AstroTurf

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Just got back from N Arizona so now I know what all of it looks like. Much of it his hideous. Much of it is just.... nothing. The pretty parts are either not good in some ways, or like have issues (do not build your house upon clay and rock, etc.

IDK what happens next. We met a UPS driver in a small town who said the "entire, and I do mean whole town" was sick in December and since then they had 2 cases. He is convinced they all had it.

We drove past the Apache reservation and it was all closed down and like signs about "don't drive down this road, illness lives here, " and stuff. and well, it was sad. I'm sure they have little hospital facilities and large (if I know anything about Indians, well, they aren't a health bunch: diabetes, frail elderly, huffing paint, drinking and smoking too much. It kinda got me to thinking about social engineering and such. Perfect virus to like, wipe out the elderly and the dead.

I heard of a study in Israel about deaths, comparatively , of the countries in full on quarantine or kind of halfway, like the US and they said the difference in numbers of dead was like 0.01 percent. I believe it could be true. longer given its incubation period, but eh . Israel does seem fascinated by this virus, I can't wait for the results of the vaccine from them.

But I'm alive, so far. Confused but alive. Kappy Kirthday KAS!! :)

Anna
Indians are such...

Drama Queens
 

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Just got back from N Arizona so now I know what all of it looks like. Much of it his hideous. Much of it is just.... nothing. The pretty parts are either not good in some ways, or like have issues (do not build your house upon clay and rock, etc.

IDK what happens next. We met a UPS driver in a small town who said the "entire, and I do mean whole town" was sick in December and since then they had 2 cases. He is convinced they all had it.

We drove past the Apache reservation and it was all closed down and like signs about "don't drive down this road, illness lives here, " and stuff. and well, it was sad. I'm sure they have little hospital facilities and large (if I know anything about Indians, well, they aren't a health bunch: diabetes, frail elderly, huffing paint, drinking and smoking too much. It kinda got me to thinking about social engineering and such. Perfect virus to like, wipe out the elderly and the dead.

I heard of a study in Israel about deaths, comparatively , of the countries in full on quarantine or kind of halfway, like the US and they said the difference in numbers of dead was like 0.01 percent. I believe it could be true. longer given its incubation period, but eh . Israel does seem fascinated by this virus, I can't wait for the results of the vaccine from them.

But I'm alive, so far. Confused but alive. Kappy Kirthday KAS!! :)

Anna
I drove from Phoenix to the Grand Canyon some years back. The portion getting to Flagstaff was beautiful. Oak Creek Canyon, Sedona, Flagstaff...all gorgeous. From Flagstaff to the Grand Canyon..Zzzzz. Flat, barren, boring. You go thru miles of nothingness and then suddenly you come upon this deep gash in the ground. An amazing site and a must see for every American. Makes you say to yourself, "I'm nothing".
 

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This is us, here in Australia. Our population is only 25 million. We are isolated and girt by sea, so we kind of had a chance to see what other countries did. So we could decide what to do.

I miss my beach walks. We are allowed to go if we walk from home. So I walked 15km a few days ago in the rain.

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