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ProVarinati Diner & Saloon and Beyond

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by WillyZee, Feb 10, 2017.

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  1. newyork13

    newyork13 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 9, 2013
    western Massachusetts
    Thanks for the new beginning @WillyZ. Sad to see them go. As others have said, they're the only mods I use anymore. But, trust that we can all carry on together somehow in some way.
     
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  2. WillyZee

    WillyZee Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 23, 2013
    Toronto
    I'm going to miss being able to send a V1 in to be upgraded to a v2.5 ... maybe Bill will offer this service.

    I have a V1 mini that I would like this done to.

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  3. MikeE3

    MikeE3 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 23, 2011
    Skippack, PA
    hmm? With Provape out of business ... how long can Bill's inventory of spare parts last? No where to replace them when he runs low/out.
     
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  4. Ca Ike

    Ca Ike Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 20, 2014
    Cali
    My entry to the provape world bough the day it released instead of a 2.5 on Blakes recommendation. Topped with my new p3 calix. [​IMG]

    And a gift from my local shop after talking about our favorite provari designs today. [​IMG]

    Despite what the critics here and on the other forum say, Provapes absence will be felt big time.
     
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  5. Ca Ike

    Ca Ike Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 20, 2014
    Cali
    My entry to the provape world bough the day it released instead of a 2.5 on Blakes recommendation. Topped with my new p3 calix. [​IMG]

    And a gift from my local shop after talking about our favorite provari designs today. [​IMG]

    Despite what the critics here and on the other forum say, Provapes absence will be felt big time.
     
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  6. coldgin96

    coldgin96 Resting In Peace Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I'm never using anything else, ever. As long as I live, I'll be vaping with a ProVari.
     
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  7. schismz

    schismz Super Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 2, 2010
    Seattle, WA
    This entire endless video summarized: It is Zen (Mike Morgan) talking about the closing of ProVape. The summary below encapsulates his rambling video talk and presents opinions and facts, which may or may not be 100% correct, but are an accurate summary of what Zen says here (over 2 hours to listen to, which I just couldn't deal with, everything below is said within the first 15 minutes):



    ProVari (the company) was for sale, for over a year. They knew they were going to sell it or shut it down for quite a while.

    Zen tried to arrange financing to buy it, and simply cease all sales within the US, because the worldwide market would still carry it. This did not work out.

    They (David and Phil, the founders of ProVape) ultimately shut it down because... they're just sick and tired of running it and being in the vape business and the concept of dealing with the vape industry under the FDA. Also, ProVape got sued and settled. It freaked them out and made them realize they have a lot to lose. Your ability to sue a company in China = nonexistent.

    The bottom line for the founders (David and Phil) amounts to: they had a good run. Both founders are under 50. Both founders are worth many millions of dollars. Both founders have retired. Pretty much, they lived out the American Dream®. Yes their costs were higher due to being in the US, yes they gave money to charities, yes they were a good company to work for, but yes, they sure had big margins and made money on their products :) And they sold 450,000+ of those products :)

    If Trump gets rid of the insane FDA regs tomorrow, ProVape is still not going to be coming back. They have sold their building (which they owned), all of their equipment (which they owned), and much of their intellectual property. Staff who knew what was happening and quit to find other jobs over the past year+ were not replaced. There is basically nothing and nobody left to "rise from the ashes" and restart ProVape. It's done. ProVari is now officially a piece of Vape History/Americana.

    To reiterate, this is not an official statement by the founders of ProVape, it's Zen (Mike Morgan) saying all this.
     
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  8. Katdarling

    Katdarling Is this a mask, or underwear... Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Jan 25, 2011
    Utopia
    Very interesting, schismz! My guess is that Zen knows from what he speaks. <nodding>


    I got a blem once, Bronze....... It was a tiny bit identifiable. ;)


    See it? No? .......


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    How bout now....... :D

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    YES on "weird". Toto yes on "nuts"!

    But all of us favor pink?? Yeah/no. Not this woman.


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  9. DPLongo22

    DPLongo22 Open mind for a different view... Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Dec 17, 2011
    Midworld
    I like pink (and P!nk too!). Yes I do!

    Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk
     
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  10. serenity21899

    serenity21899 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 18, 2013
    Antioch IL
    In my case, I would take the blue path, and my husband, takes forever, and cannot make a decision. :)
     
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  11. DancingHeretik

    DancingHeretik Dancing in the Chaos Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 20, 2011
    San Antonio, TX
    Me too. I hate shopping! I haven't been to a mall in years. An outlet store at as quiet a time as possible. Or online. Otherwise, I ain't goin' shopping!
     
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  12. serenity21899

    serenity21899 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 18, 2013
    Antioch IL
    I don't do malls, and I try to avoid all stores, if possible.
     
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  13. Bea-FL

    Bea-FL Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 7, 2016
    Florida
    @Katdarling red is my favorite color. Sure wish I had a red provari like yours. Have been looking everywhere for one.

    @DancingHeretik me too. I hate in-person shopping…especially in malls. Havent been in a mall for many years. Except for grocery shopping I do most of mine online.
     
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  14. DPLongo22

    DPLongo22 Open mind for a different view... Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Dec 17, 2011
    Midworld
    My "mall" delivers.

    In boxes that say, "Amazon". Yes they do!

    Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk
     
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  15. DPLongo22

    DPLongo22 Open mind for a different view... Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Dec 17, 2011
    Midworld
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  16. Bea-FL

    Bea-FL Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 7, 2016
    Florida
    We shop in the same mall, lol.
     
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  17. xstitch

    xstitch Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 13, 2013
    Maine
    Snowing again........


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  18. xstitch

    xstitch Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 13, 2013
    Maine
    [​IMG]


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  19. classwife

    classwife Admin Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    What a nice gift !
     
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  20. Bronze

    Bronze ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Tar Heel State
    While I wish ProVape would continue to be in business I somehow feel that they do not owe me anything nor do I owe them anything. They charged a premium price for their gear and we got a premium product in return. That former marketing employee kind of made it sound like they didn't especially make a whole lot of money. I'm sorry, I didn't buy that when I read it. Zen confirms they did just fine as I would expect. When you do the math they generated in excess of $50 million in sales. I'm sure between the two founders they did AOK. In return they gave us excellent products and stood behind them and are even honoring warranties past their closing date. They kept their word, we sent them our money. Exactly the way it should be.

    Good grief!
     
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