Public Vapeing

[nyiddle]

In my opinion, it's pretty simple. I don't vape anywhere that I wouldn't have smoked a cigarette when I smoked.

I didn't smoke cigarettes in the grocery store. I didn't smoke them in the mall. I didn't smoke them inside my parent's house. I didn't smoke them in the shower (though on the throne is a different discussion). Why would I begin associating new places with nicotine? I didn't take up vaping because the convenience allows me to do it anywhere I want, I took up vaping because cigarettes are terrible for you.

 

[Tuvya]

As a recent I was unaware of the annoyances all together... I moderately vaped at the Italian restaurant, after eating while on a date without a problem or glances looking at me... Fat hits too, lol. Everybody's more chill on Sunday early evenings anyhow???

I've vaped in front of a co worker on jr high school grounds.
I think it greatly depends on where you live. I ignorantly vape everywhere but will be more aware now and thanks for the educating.

 

[DrMA]

In my opinion, it's pretty simple. I don't vape anywhere that I wouldn't have smoked a cigarette when I smoked.

I didn't smoke cigarettes in the grocery store. I didn't smoke them in the mall. I didn't smoke them inside my parent's house. I didn't smoke them in the shower (though on the throne is a different discussion). Why would I begin associating new places with nicotine? I didn't take up vaping because the convenience allows me to do it anywhere I want, I took up vaping because cigarettes are terrible for you.

I'm one of those people who was fortunate enough to live thru more civilized times when you could smoke in the mall, in restaurants, in the office, on airplanes... Those places were taken away from us by hysterical whiners just like the author of the article in the OP. At the same time we've been demonized, insulted, and disrespected and now we're expected to pretend that's ok and accept our own marginalization as "courtesy" to the same hysterical whiners that caused it. Absurd!

 

[stevegmu]

It is more of a statement of the society which we have created for ourselves- through our elected governments. Every year since this country was founded we have lost freedoms. No one alive who was born and raised in the US really knows how it is to live in a totalitarian system; a system which we are gradually becoming. I am certainly not advocating vaping everywhere; a certain degree of courtesy and respect should be applied when making the choice.
My favorite city in the world in Prague, CZ; not because vaping is welcomed and allowed virtually everywhere, but because they have lived under totalitarianism and earned their freedom which they now enjoy. If a restaurant or store doesn't want to allow vaping it is their prerogative, but most simply don't care. In a society in which most of the population smokes, in which smoking is accepted as part of life and not demonized, everyone understands vaping is not smoking, or smoking light. We don't live in such a society...

 

[Davey59]

Justifying one thing based on another never works.

No, or maybe,,,,,,, hmmmmm. I try not to ever say never because "never" will likely be disproved. A sound analogy even if exaggerated is a useful tool to show absurdity to those unable to see it on their own. Might even show them their stance may lead to an activity they currently enjoy may be next on the list of banishment.

 

[nyiddle]

I'm one of those people who was fortunate enough to live thru more civilized times when you could smoke in the mall, in restaurants, in the office, on airplanes...

In fairness, when I was a smoker, I was always glad that you couldn't smoke in restaurants. The few bars I've been in where you still can smoke indoors are often grossly crowded with the stench of bad breath/stale cigarettes. I usually can't really enjoy myself in an environment like that.

And to be perfectly honest (last time I cheated about a year ago -- nobody's perfect) I was in Vegas at a blackjack table and I told them to hold my spot while I went to a more secluded spot to have my cigarette. I now understand, more than ever, how annoying the stench of cigarettes can be especially when you're not enjoying one yourself. Even the other smokers at the table agreed that it was a courteous and respectful thing to do.

That's the underlying thing for me. Respect. I don't want anyone to be subjected to vapor against their will, just like I'd never want anyone to be subjected to smoke (moreso with smoke, really).

 

[monkey39]

In fairness, when I was a smoker, I was always glad that you couldn't smoke in restaurants. The few bars I've been in where you still can smoke indoors are often grossly crowded with the stench of bad breath/stale cigarettes. I usually can't really enjoy myself in an environment like that.

And to be perfectly honest (last time I cheated about a year ago -- nobody's perfect) I was in Vegas at a blackjack table and I told them to hold my spot while I went to a more secluded spot to have my cigarette. I now understand, more than ever, how annoying the stench of cigarettes can be especially when you're not enjoying one yourself. Even the other smokers at the table agreed that it was a courteous and respectful thing to do.

That's the underlying thing for me. Respect. I don't want anyone to be subjected to vapor against their will, just like I'd never want anyone to be subjected to smoke (moreso with smoke, really).

I agree with this. If you're not willing to show respect to others, don't expect any respect in return. It may be old-fashioned, but I, in general, believe in polite manners and respect for others; one obnoxious ...... can ruin my entire day with fantasies of strangling his/her useless ..... So respect - until they show lack of manners or respect towards me or mine, then they can go eff themselves!

 

[skoony]

Yeah, good luck. Look at the laws and regulations enacted over the last 100 years and tell me how much money you want to bet on logic and facts prevailing. And on Election Day your voting options have already been determined. We're at risk enough already. Vapeing where smoking is prohibited is a poor and selfish decision.

if one uses common sense vaping in public is a no brainer.
just don't chase clouds in a non cloud chasing environment.
have your handy dandy stealth set up ready and good to go.

 

[skoony]

In fairness, when I was a smoker, I was always glad that you couldn't smoke in restaurants. The few bars I've been in where you still can smoke indoors are often grossly crowded with the stench of bad breath/stale cigarettes. I usually can't really enjoy myself in an environment like that.

And to be perfectly honest (last time I cheated about a year ago -- nobody's perfect) I was in Vegas at a blackjack table and I told them to hold my spot while I went to a more secluded spot to have my cigarette. I now understand, more than ever, how annoying the stench of cigarettes can be especially when you're not enjoying one yourself. Even the other smokers at the table agreed that it was a courteous and respectful thing to do.

That's the underlying thing for me. Respect. I don't want anyone to be subjected to vapor against their will, just like I'd never want anyone to be subjected to smoke (moreso with smoke, really).

i agree with you whole heartily except for one thing.
its common courtesy,not respect.
respect must be earned,not required.
regards
mike
sorry about the double posts.
i am confused too.

 

[smokinGAVIN]

I don't vape where smoking is prohibited mainly out of respect. I feel you must first give respect to earn respect from others. It's just one of the little rules that I live by.

 

[HMav]

I vape at work, at my desk. I have asked the coworkers that are always around me if they mind, and have requested that they let me know if it at all bothers them. I have no issues, and hopefully my employer will not decide to take this perk away from me.

I generally don't vape in places that I wouldn't smoke (by choice, not legal restriction) and ask in places where I couldn't smoke (by legal or other external restriction) but would want to.

I also try not to fart in elevators, I don't wear obnoxiously strong cologne (and object to those that do), I don't bring food that stinks to work or other enclosed spaces, and I make sure I shower an use unscented deodorant before heading out for a plane ride.This is the way I was raised (in a smoking household), and I would like others to be courteous to me so I am courteous to them.

I also used to be a smoker. Now that I'm not, I am appalled at how strong the smell of smoke is, even well after the act. I have to give considerable credit to all the "never smokers" who did not complain and let me have my freedom at their expense. For anyone to complain about my vaping without cause..... I would like nothing more than to lock them in one of the few remaining airport "smoking lounges" for a few hours, then ask them again how much my vaping bothers them.

 

[smokinGAVIN]

What actually bugs me is when I get complaints from smokers. Yes it has happened. Not so long ago I was a smoker too and I never complained to the cloud chasers I often saw in the bars I frequent. At that time to me it was also just smoke.

 

[sub4me]

The world is full of lunatics.

 

[Spencer87]

Hmm . I do believe it is my right to vape inside. Cigarettes smelled terrible yet they were banned indoors due to health reasons. Not because of the smell. In this case though. We need a compromise in both sides. Stealth vaping, not blowing clouds, is kinda easy. When you don't exhale vapor.... you get the nicotine, there is no.smell, and everyone is happy.

 

[Big Me]

What I'm curious to know is if she ever requested that the vaper refrain from vaping near her? A polite request at the time would probably have resolved the issue.

When I smoked, I would have been polite enough to refrain (except when I was already smoking and they moved into MY space and then proceeded to complain... )

 

[Rickajho]

Vapeing inside public places is just begging for laws against it to be passed. Then we can only hope the laws stop there. I vape and it pisses me off when I see others doing it in walmart or wherever. Keep giving non vapers the finger and the politicians will give you theirs.

I am not going to beat this very dead horse for the 1,762nd time. If you cannot see your own folly of the "logic" that you use: "Don't vape in public, because that will only lead to not vaping in public." Huh? So you think the solution is to get out in front and not do something before you are told to not do something? That's just sad. And requires too much psychic skill to divine what's socially acceptable and to whom before it even happens. I refused to be cowed into becoming some kind of vaping apologist, only good for vaping in a gutter in a back alley.

I might start buying into that pile if/when I ever run into someone objecting to me vaping in public. In over three and a half years - lot's of great conversations started, zero objections. In mAssachusetts even.

 

[CdnDiva]

I would like to write an open letter....

To all parents who bring their small children into fine dining establishments and cafes, and allow them to run all over the place screaming like banshees, then subjecting every patron in the place to ear-piercing tantrums and snot bubbles when they're made to sit in their seats and eat a meal. Your inability to effectively parent is interfering with my dining experience.

To the people who's religion or personal code of ethics prohibits the use of deodorant, your body odor is interfering with the aroma of my freshly brewed espresso shot. As you may or may not know, the true art of drinking espresso is to invoke all senses. It's a very spiritual experience, and having the scent of armpit up my nose just ruins it for me.

To the gentlemen in bars who fart with reckless abandon, thinking the loud music will obfuscate their [Moderated to {Rear end}] orchestra, I may not have heard it, but I smelled it, and the noxious fumes curdled the cream in my White Russian.

To people on airplanes who....oh hell, there's just not enough space on here to write that one....

I don't have a huge sense of entitlement, an axe to grind, a point to prove or a bra to burn, therefore I will never subject you to my chocolate mint vapor in confined places, but wouldn't it be nice if everyone in the world was that considerate?

 

[HauntedMyst]

Not being a complaining whiney little girl and having a deep rooted love for freedom I have NO desire to attempt to bend people to my will, I just live and let live.

I tried bending my son to my will once. All I wanted was for him to join the family business. It didn't end well. I had to kill the old hippie he was following around, I cut off his arm after a fight and he and his buddies blew up my two Death Stars before either one was finished. Ungrateful little bass turd.

 

[HauntedMyst]

To the gentlemen in bars who fart with reckless abandon, thinking the loud music will obfuscate their ... orchestra, I may not have heard it, but I smelled it, and the noxious fumes curdled the cream in my White Russian.

I'm sorry. I remember that night. I really did think the music would hide it. I was going to hit on you but the burrito I had for lunch started barking and I had to leave.

 

[Lessifer]

While I somewhat agree with the underlying sentiment of the article, I don't want vapor clouds in my face while I'm eating either, I disagree with the method involved here. This society has become so passive aggressive that people have forgotten that you can talk to other people. If the person next to you is blowing clouds and it bothers you, ask them, politely, to stop.

I was at Walmart tonight, and at some of the registers they have double registers, so two lines are going through a fairly tight space. Well, a woman's cart was blocking the space so people couldn't get to the other register. I saw one person go all the way around the registers to get to the cashier, and then the next person picked their stuff out of their cart and carried it past the blocked space(leaving their cart in the aisle), then FINALLY someone asked the woman to move her cart, which she did.

We don't need rules and regulations to respect each other. If you're a vaper, be respectful in your vaping, and if you're out and about and something bothers you, speak up.