So I hate clearos, I hate vivi Novas, I'm a carto tank kind of guy. Every single clearo I've tried has given me a burnt flavor quite frequently. This is my main gripe with them, and this is why I don't use them.
II had tinkered and modded all the clearos and vivi novas I had to increase their wicking ability, assuming the burn taste was just from inadequate juice. This helped, but still didn't get rid of the problem.
The first time I tried some clearos, I like them. I was using them on an eGo battery at the time, then when I got home I switched to my Zmax and after awhile couldn't stand them. Tried many different kinds, still didn't like them.
I'm starting to think that the low frequency PWM of many devices out there could be the cause of this burning flavor, which would also explain the huge difference of opinion people have about clearos and vivi novas. Some love them, some hate them. Maybe the people that hate them are all using PWM devices, like me?
I had considered this for awhile, and then recently threw some bottom coil cartos on my vamo, and on anything other than extremely low power settings, they taste burnt to me, off and on, kind of like clearos and vivi novas.
Anyone think this is possible? I suspect the design of a wick inside of a coil, like with clearos, novas, bottom coil cartos, etc cannot deal with the spikes in voltage seen with PWM as well as a standard carto can, which is totally surrounded by juice soaked filler at all times. The voltage spikes may be absorbed without issue by cartos, but with the coil being totally exposed, and only fed by a wick inside of the coil, the coil reacts quicker to higher voltage, so can burn for extremely short periods of time during the high voltage spike of PWM devices.
So to test this I used a Vivi Nova, an old Kanger (T2 I believe) and a few different styles of clearos on an eGo battery, and on a non-PWM mod (ST Bolt) I experienced no burning flavor, overall the devices performed well.
Then I put them on my Vamo and ZMax, both of which use low frequency (33.33 or whatever it is) PWM. I put them into voltage mode and set the voltage at 3.6 volts, to compare to the voltage that the eGo and Bolt were probably delivering. As I suspected, every one gave off a burnt flavor somewhat frequently. Swapped back and forth between the Bolt and the Vamo and there was always a burnt flavor that would appear when using the Vamo (and Zmax)
That was with a rather standard voltage setting. The nova had a 1.8 head, the kanger metered to 2.1 and the clearos were all around 2.1-2.3ohm. So there is no excuse for this burnt flavor, 3.6v on a 2.1 ohm coil is by no means high power vaping.
I've long suspected that the PWM had an affect on how the device vaped. The Provari's flat signal would be ideal. Maybe when people are saying their Provari hits better than any of their other devices, they aren't kidding.
Thoughts? Any mistake in the comparison I made, or any faulty logic I was using? I figured if this was truly the case, it would be much more well known, and addressed by manufacturers (no more 6v spikes, for instance)
II had tinkered and modded all the clearos and vivi novas I had to increase their wicking ability, assuming the burn taste was just from inadequate juice. This helped, but still didn't get rid of the problem.
The first time I tried some clearos, I like them. I was using them on an eGo battery at the time, then when I got home I switched to my Zmax and after awhile couldn't stand them. Tried many different kinds, still didn't like them.
I'm starting to think that the low frequency PWM of many devices out there could be the cause of this burning flavor, which would also explain the huge difference of opinion people have about clearos and vivi novas. Some love them, some hate them. Maybe the people that hate them are all using PWM devices, like me?
I had considered this for awhile, and then recently threw some bottom coil cartos on my vamo, and on anything other than extremely low power settings, they taste burnt to me, off and on, kind of like clearos and vivi novas.
Anyone think this is possible? I suspect the design of a wick inside of a coil, like with clearos, novas, bottom coil cartos, etc cannot deal with the spikes in voltage seen with PWM as well as a standard carto can, which is totally surrounded by juice soaked filler at all times. The voltage spikes may be absorbed without issue by cartos, but with the coil being totally exposed, and only fed by a wick inside of the coil, the coil reacts quicker to higher voltage, so can burn for extremely short periods of time during the high voltage spike of PWM devices.
So to test this I used a Vivi Nova, an old Kanger (T2 I believe) and a few different styles of clearos on an eGo battery, and on a non-PWM mod (ST Bolt) I experienced no burning flavor, overall the devices performed well.
Then I put them on my Vamo and ZMax, both of which use low frequency (33.33 or whatever it is) PWM. I put them into voltage mode and set the voltage at 3.6 volts, to compare to the voltage that the eGo and Bolt were probably delivering. As I suspected, every one gave off a burnt flavor somewhat frequently. Swapped back and forth between the Bolt and the Vamo and there was always a burnt flavor that would appear when using the Vamo (and Zmax)
That was with a rather standard voltage setting. The nova had a 1.8 head, the kanger metered to 2.1 and the clearos were all around 2.1-2.3ohm. So there is no excuse for this burnt flavor, 3.6v on a 2.1 ohm coil is by no means high power vaping.
I've long suspected that the PWM had an affect on how the device vaped. The Provari's flat signal would be ideal. Maybe when people are saying their Provari hits better than any of their other devices, they aren't kidding.
Thoughts? Any mistake in the comparison I made, or any faulty logic I was using? I figured if this was truly the case, it would be much more well known, and addressed by manufacturers (no more 6v spikes, for instance)