Question about battery voltages

[Rykk]

Hi y'all - I vape m4xx series exclusively but I DO have a "Smoking Anywhere" two-piece vaporette with 3 batteries that was my first foray into e-cigs that I didn't care for. Too expensive and dicey as to whether or not the guy in the mall would have the cartomizers I used when I ran out. I work in electronics and so have been able to do a lot of dorking around making things like a cool dual m403 (2 batts in parallel with a single atty/cart) rig that looks like a tuning fork and also I have made my own adapters to go from the Smoking Anywhere batts that I didn't want to waste to my m4xx attys. I also have 2 humongously long batts from a friend that moved that I "think" are from a "Blu" but I don't really know. I'm guessing those are "801s" and the 3 Smoking Anywheres are "KR808s"(?). Both have "male", threaded connectors and are about a full mm wider than the m4xx batts They all also have a slot in the center conductor 'button" and "breathe" thru little slits in the "ash" that covers the LEDs.

Anyhow, when I got the first setup (KR808?), I remember measuring the voltage out of the batts and saw around 4.2V (no load, freshly charged - just push one of the rubber cart covers over the LED end whilst measuring to get them to turn on). I promptly forgot about that in the last 6 months - lol. The big guys also are 4.2V - I made adapters for those 2 by soldering m4xx battery ends (just the flat, gold ends and threads) directly onto the thread ends of the 801s since the od of the m4xx is the same as the ends of the 801 threads. The KR808s were more complicated. Problem is I've been going thru attys a LOT more than usual lately and it occured to me that these batteries may be too hot for the m4xx, especially after I had one quit after about 2min on the first of the large batts. Sure enough, the m4xx batts measure around 3.7V! Well, crap!

I'm a bit confused after doing a lot of reading in this forum as I've read that ALL e-cig batts are, supposedly, 3.7V and ones that measure 4.2V (the voltage output by the battery chargers) only are at that level for a few drags. Is this so? Could these batteries' higher voltage be why I'm blowing up attys (3 in the last week and a half!) and, if so, is there a work around for this such that I can use these 5 batteries with my m4xx atomizers? Or maybe an atty that can handle the higher voltage and still be compatible with the m4xx parts? Half a watt (half an ohm, half a volt...) is a lot to sink as far as putting a resistance in series in such tight confines as the end of an atty...but I'm open to any ideas. Or was this all just a coincidence and it's ok to continue using them with new attys?

I really would like to use these batts since 5 batteries costs a healthy piece of change, yaknowwhatImean? And I vape like I used to smoke - like a freaken coal fired power plant - and so I need to have LOTS of batteries at the ready and these 5 should last a good long time. At least the 808s did and the 801s LOOK like they would if I could keep an atty alive with them.

Thanks for any and all help/advice!
Rick

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

I'm not sure I'm going to be able to answer all your questions, but perhaps I can provide some clarifications:

I don't know of any "Smoking Anywhere" e-cig.

• "Smoking Everywhere" sells the SE Gold (RN4081) and some other models, none of which are two-piece cartomizer-based. Sold heavily in mall kiosks.

• "smokeanywhere.com" sells a super-mini (the Njoy Npro, I believe), a penstyle (RN4072), and an e-cigar, but no two-piece cartomizer model. I don't think they're sold in malls.

• "Smoke Anywhere, Inc." is the parent of Smoke 51. The Smoke 51 DUO looks like a KR808D-1 and is a cartomizer based unit, but is a different (incompatible) model: the E9. Also sold heavily in mall kiosks.

My guess is that you have a Smoke 51.

There is no way that a "humongously long batt" could be from a Blu (a super-mini). 'Humongously long' is how I would describe the XL KR808D-1 battery. However, an assembled penstyle (e.g., DSE801) is 155 mm and might very well be perceived as humongously long. Its battery is the same length as a regular KR808D-1, which is longer than a super-mini's or a mini's battery.

All regular (non-Mod) e-cigs use a "3.7V" battery. Many of them start out at 4.2V fully charged and drop down to around 3.2V before demanding to be recharged. The average voltage varies from model to model. For some, that 3.7 is generous; for others a bit conservative.

Soldering batteries is outside my expertise, but I'm not sure even modders do that. Unless you really know what you are doing, don't! You don't want to "mess" [<- replace with a much stronger 4-letter word] with batteries!

[And if you think you do know what you are doing, double check with those in the Modders forum.] Instead, buy inexpensive adapters from such suppliers as Good Prophets, NHaler, AltSmoke, Heaven Gifts, etc.