Quit smoking, NOW being hounded about nicotine!
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Unfortunately, some of the die hard smoking Nazi's WILL smell smoke - even if there is no smoke to smell. IMO, it's all about wanting to control the other person. That's the primary drive for the fake cough, the fake concern, and long lectures from total strangers and co-workers about how you're going to die a horrible death unless you quit smoking. They simply want you to behave the way they think you should behave.If they think it's smoke, then they should ask themselves why they can't smell any smoke.
I'm not vaping yet. I just ordered my first kit and am excited about the idea of being able to smoke at work again (undetected). I've been reading these boards as part of my research into eCigs and the OP brought me out of lurkdom because I suspect I may get the same kinds of reactions from former smokers (like my boss) as she did.
Your doing fine. They see the effort. The ones that matter will make the difference. I know its impossible to please everyone. Doing it for you and the kids are on top and that should give you strength to deal with the rest. I hate to throw the addiction card, like all the other people do with drugs, booze and now sex(oh come on), but hey nicotine is the ONLY thing I've ever been addicted too(other than sex).
Perhaps they just don't understand and you may have to remind yourself of that, especially right before you blow up.
Good luck with that!
Your not alone....
Gools
Perhaps they just don't understand and you may have to remind yourself of that, especially right before you blow up.
Good luck with that!
Your not alone....
Gools
Oh! The FAKE COUGH, just get's me sooo riled! Even when I was smoking analogs 50 feet away from the doors of my old employer, on the other side of the building, we'd get some smart *** walking in that would do the fake cough. My God, we were outdoors with the wind blowing away from the building and people walking in, and they'd still feel the need to let us know of their unapproval.
Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing this. I received nothing but positive reinforcement from family and friends the first month, but that soon ceased. This was followed up with one of the many...
-How do you know its safe?
-Good luck when you find out that it causes cancer
-When are you going to stop vaping
-How do you know how much nicotine your getting
-When are you cutting down your nicotine level
And on and on. I've finally cut my response down to a one liner....
"I'm not quitting, just making a "life-style" change......."
Good luck to all!
-How do you know its safe?
-Good luck when you find out that it causes cancer
-When are you going to stop vaping
-How do you know how much nicotine your getting
-When are you cutting down your nicotine level
And on and on. I've finally cut my response down to a one liner....
"I'm not quitting, just making a "life-style" change......."
Good luck to all!
I have a one liner for the fake coughers:Oh! The FAKE COUGH, just get's me sooo riled! Even when I was smoking analogs 50 feet away from the doors of my old employer, on the other side of the building, we'd get some smart *** walking in that would do the fake cough. My God, we were outdoors with the wind blowing away from the building and people walking in, and they'd still feel the need to let us know of their unapproval.
"Now THERE'S someone who needs to quit smoking."
Thank you!
I intend to use that if I get any smark-aleck comments about my "new" habit. That and, "It's none of your business" to the who think they can make assinine remarks if they cover it with the PC "I care about their health" disclaimer. Except for maybe the "Good luck when you find out that it causes cancer" dude or dudette. To them my one line is:
"Only the good die young."
thelook - what an idea for ppl to mind their own business.
It seemed to me that you got it figured out in the first post when you said it seems that sometimes ppl just need something to complain about. Funny none of them were "working on" themselves during these conversations.
I say CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!
I haven't started vaping yet, but will soon, and i'm pretty stoked about getting off these anologs too, so thank you for the inspiration!
It seemed to me that you got it figured out in the first post when you said it seems that sometimes ppl just need something to complain about. Funny none of them were "working on" themselves during these conversations.
I say CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!
I haven't started vaping yet, but will soon, and i'm pretty stoked about getting off these anologs too, so thank you for the inspiration!
When you worry about whether it's safe to inhale PG think about the fact that it's what asthma medicine is suspended in for inhalers and nebulizers. Also used to suspend the medicine they give lung transplant patients to inhale. I think if it's safe enough for folks with compromised breathing to inhale it's ok for me. And VG is just the natural form of PG rather than the chemically created version. I'm not at all worried.
Wow. You and the original poster have articulated very well exactly what is happening around me lately. Fortunately, my pride in quitting smoking is enough to subdue all the uninformed condescension that has reared its head. And as another poster mentioned earlier, it seems we catch the most grief from smokers.
But as long as the complaint department is open for business, here's my favorite comment I've heard:
"But you didn't quit..."
Thank you! I've been saying this since day one.
Everyone around me is thrilled (and very, very surprised) that I have finally quit smoking.
They are even more surprised that I've done it effortlessly, painlessly and was able to quit the day I got my PV.
When occasionally asked about the safety of it, I explain exactly what you did! For some bizzarro reason (which honestly, is truly beyond me) people who are familiar with my background nod approvingly, as if somehow *I* have access to some secret book of big-words or something? *shaking head*
So, to people who have asthma or have kids with asthma I add, "Have you ever looked up what's in your inhaler? It's easy to google it and find out."
I'm a huge believer in people becoming self-advocates when it comes to knowledge about their medications, etc. So many people have implicit trust in their health care provider's ability to scribble something on a prescription pad. They hand it to the pharmacist, and most of the time can't tell me what medications they (or their children) were prescribed, or for what.
But I digress, sorry
I do have a few people that say, "Now you're going to constantly suck on that thing?" or "Jeez, do you ever put that thing down?" or "You look like a crack-head with all that stuff you constantly mess around with."
My replies? A) "I could be blowing smoke in your face right now, would you prefer that?"
B) "This is a problem, why? I rarely put my smokes down! At least now I don't have to run up to the gas station in my jammies at midnight on the verge of panic because I only have one pack left in the drawer. I'm not a homicidal raging b$tch, I don't smell bad anymore, I'm not hurting myself or anyone else, and I'm a grown ...-woman... shall I go on? Or are we done with this conversation?"
C) "You're seeming familiarity with crack-head behavior is interesting, should we talk about that? ... naah, OH, by the way, do you know how much money this stuff is saving me!??... Wow, how many cups of coffee have you had today? And you have to run to Dunkin Donuts again... why?"
I say congratulations too! I happen to be so proud of myself for quitting, and for finally finding a way to stay quit!!
Remie
Great posts I have nothing to add on the self righteous smoking nazi's. They should be thankful people are vaping and will live longer. That way then can complain about vaping, that gets lost the attention might end up on a bad habit they have. Their heads would probable explode if they end up being the picked on minority. Vape and save lives
Regarding the "you're always sucking on that thing" and "don't you use that too much" comments, please know that PVs don't deliver nicotine with the same "efficacy" as tobacco. Other ingredients in tobacco promote the nicotine absorption that aren't in PVs. So, a PV may need to be used more frequently to maintain the nicotine levels.
Additionally, with tobacco, a smoker typically finished a complete cigarette, with a large dose of nicotine. There was a beginning and an end to the cigarette. Also, smokers were often limited to access because they had to leave the house or building. With PVs, most people don't have to sit and vape for ten minutes straight or waste the cigarette. they can take puffs off and on and wherever they are.
Therefore, even though it appears that they are taking in a lot more nicotine than when they were smoking, it's probably equal or even a little less.
I know I vape a LOT more than I smoked, but I also use only 11-12mg, so it takes more frequency to get the same amount of nicotine - which i can do, becaise I no longer have to go outside.
On a snarky note, if someone was giving me crap about vaping I'd simply say, "So, should I just go back to smoking?"
That'll shut them up. LOL!
Additionally, with tobacco, a smoker typically finished a complete cigarette, with a large dose of nicotine. There was a beginning and an end to the cigarette. Also, smokers were often limited to access because they had to leave the house or building. With PVs, most people don't have to sit and vape for ten minutes straight or waste the cigarette. they can take puffs off and on and wherever they are.
Therefore, even though it appears that they are taking in a lot more nicotine than when they were smoking, it's probably equal or even a little less.
I know I vape a LOT more than I smoked, but I also use only 11-12mg, so it takes more frequency to get the same amount of nicotine - which i can do, becaise I no longer have to go outside.
On a snarky note, if someone was giving me crap about vaping I'd simply say, "So, should I just go back to smoking?"
That'll shut them up. LOL!
Amen! Exactly what I say hahah! "I could be blowing smoke in your face right now, would that be better?" 
I just love having my morning vape and coffee in my warm house... it's about minus 16 wind chill out there right now! Seriously, if I had to smoke an analog right now I'd be sitting on my fireplace letting the chimney suck the smoke up it - or - just be awful and smoke in my den
right here on my laptop.I also love vaping while I'm working at my computer... reading.... watching TV... with the guilt of a "horrible person because I'm smoking in here... or there..." removed? I do vape a lot more than I smoked.
Anecdotally, if I were getting as much nic from vaping as I did with analogs, I'd feel it, big time, and I was a heavy smoker.
And you are so right about the mental part of being finished with an analog. Stamp it out, done. This eliminated that part of the mental routine of taking one from the pack, lighting, chain puffing it because I was freeeeezing outside, or smoking it quick while the fireplace was roaring and able to suck the stench right up and out.... it's just easy to sit and vape!
I rather like it. The easiest instant gratification ever
Trust me when I tell you that I can understand your surprise to hear such comments from people but get used to it. I have found since day one that those who support me 100% are those who never smoked a single day in their lives. Those who either smoke now or used to smoke can be your worst advocates to vaping.
Part of it is that they are jealous that you were able to quit so easily, so happily without the nasty withdrawal symptoms - another words you cheated. Another part of it is because of how society has become today. People demand too much and expect others to accept their way, their beliefs. And more importantly are those who are just plain ignorant and arrogant. I was vaping at the casino last weekend when as soon as I started vaping the guy next to me started his fake coughing routine and looking over at me every time I took a puff - a great example of how some people have become.
All I can tell you is to ignore them. You have every right to vape to your hearts content and if someone has a problem with it then it is their problem and not yours.
Don't let them get to you! Just smile at them.
+2. So very well put!
i was having a smoke with a friend (well, he was smoking, i was vaping) and when i coment on my new flavor he sais "ive seen you sucking on that thing for the last 30 mins and i can only see it as increasing the addicition to nicotine." i dont remember my responce at the time, or even if i had one, but i have thought a lot about that since then.
the way i see it, nicotine itself is not that bad for you (it does cause an increase in blood pressure which can lead to heart attacks, but so does everything else) so even if i am increasing my nicotine addiction it is still healthier than keeping it steady and using cigs. also, i had a kidney stone a few months ago due to way too much soda and i have managed to cut down significantly (from 3-4 drinks a day to 1-2 drinks a week) partially due to being able to fulfill my "minor stimulant" need with my PV instead of my Dr.Pepper (which was actually one of the first flavors i bought, along with vanilla coke).
long story short: it doesnt matter how much nicotine you use (as long as its short of a lethal dose), vaping is still better for you than smoking.
the way i see it, nicotine itself is not that bad for you (it does cause an increase in blood pressure which can lead to heart attacks, but so does everything else) so even if i am increasing my nicotine addiction it is still healthier than keeping it steady and using cigs. also, i had a kidney stone a few months ago due to way too much soda and i have managed to cut down significantly (from 3-4 drinks a day to 1-2 drinks a week) partially due to being able to fulfill my "minor stimulant" need with my PV instead of my Dr.Pepper (which was actually one of the first flavors i bought, along with vanilla coke).
long story short: it doesnt matter how much nicotine you use (as long as its short of a lethal dose), vaping is still better for you than smoking.
I believe study's have shown smokers are very good at self regulating their nicotine levels. Also as other posts I've read point out when you light up a cigarette your committed to finishing the whole thing. If you take 3 or 4 puffs off an e-cigarette, put it down wait a few minutes take a couple more you might find your not taking any more then a traditional cigarette it's just spaced over more time.
I was raised with the saying it is better to keep your mouth shut and look like a fool then to open it and remove all doult.
I look at people and say that when they try to step on my toes like that. I personally agree that the comment on the drinking was a little mean, but if he lost his right to drive that in most places means 2 or 3 dui.
Put them in their place. We have our rights, they have theirs. They just want to take away one of yours for the I am better then you feel.
I would have kicked his .... out after driving a few miles out of my way away from his house.
I look at people and say that when they try to step on my toes like that. I personally agree that the comment on the drinking was a little mean, but if he lost his right to drive that in most places means 2 or 3 dui.
Put them in their place. We have our rights, they have theirs. They just want to take away one of yours for the I am better then you feel.
I would have kicked his .... out after driving a few miles out of my way away from his house.
And they are self-righteous enough to keep bumping gums on those very same subjects. Too bad we haven't found a way to cap & tax arrogance.
/rant...I need a vape
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