Quitting or Reducing Vaping?

[Goodrat]

I'm down to 6mg after 2 years (Started at 12, then 9 for a year), only to not have it taste acidic. Otherwise, I don't understand why anyone would go to zero. There's no harm in a little nic for pleasure. That's like drinking alcohol free beer or decaffeinated coffee. What fun is that?

 

[MaxwellPink]

I'm down to 6mg after 2 years (Started at 12, then 9 for a year), only to not have it taste acidic. Otherwise, I don't understand why anyone would go to zero. There's no harm in a little nic for pleasure. That's like drinking alcohol free beer or decaffeinated coffee. What fun is that?

About as much fun as I have drinking herbal tea.

I have over twenty different flavors of herbal tea.

Your argument is invalid.

 

[newvaper92]

Hmmm... Never thought of quitting vaping, at least not in the near future, but have thought about cutting down/out nicotine... Maybe not... I was never really a "smoker" but have chosen to vape nicotine. I vape 3-6mg, and may or may not be "mildly" addicted to it.. But feel I could give it up without issue if I have to. I don't vape because I have to have nicotine, but because I enjoy it. I quite often get busy and forget about vaping completely. Anyway, I do have quite a family history of Alzheimers and Dementia on my Mom's side, and even though I'm only 23, it can't hurt, right? I've also got pretty severe undiagnosed ADHD (have all the symptoms, but never went to a Dr. to be diagnosed officially), and I have noticed the nicotine helps me concentrate considerably. Anyway, I've not noticed any real negative side effects from vaping so not planning on quitting.

 

[AndriaD]

I'm down to 6mg after 2 years (Started at 12, then 9 for a year), only to not have it taste acidic. Otherwise, I don't understand why anyone would go to zero. There's no harm in a little nic for pleasure. That's like drinking alcohol free beer or decaffeinated coffee. What fun is that?

The "fun" of decaf coffee is not having 6 hrs of ........! 6 hrs of abdominal cramping! 6 hrs of nausea!



I don't really understand why someone would want to vape 0mg either, but just because we dont understand something, doesn't make it wrong.

Andria

 

[TX Foilhead]

I've gone from 24mg to 6mg, not because I was trying to cut down, it was because my gear got that much better. For me this whole thing started because the powers that be @ work decided there would be no more smoking, I initially started just to get through the day and after a while I didn't have to have a cig. At that point I tried to see how many days I could go without and that has turned into months and now I closing in on a year. Not too bad after smoking for close to 30 years. I may at some point decide to quit this the same way I quit cigs, but for now I figure I'm better off than I would have been and consider it an acceptable (maybe even preferable) substitute.

 

[newvaper92]

I've never had any adverse effects from caffeine, never really noticed any effect from it other than if I have caffeine after about noon I'll be awake until 4am. I don't avoid it but I certainly don't need it! Nicotine on the other hand, yes I feel effects from it, don't really get any kind of buzz anymore (sometimes though) and I enjoy it, but don't need it. To me it seems a little pointless to vape 0mg, and I'm not a smoker. I have vaped 0, but literally chain vaped until my tank was empty lol. At least with 3 and 6mg I vape a little, and then "I've had enough".

 

[TX Foilhead]

I don't really understand why someone would want to vape 0mg either, but just because we dont understand something, doesn't make it wrong.

Andria

I can think of quite a few things that I don't understand that aren't right or even legal. That ones' OK if it suits them.

 

[QU1T]

I'm down to 6mg after 2 years (Started at 12, then 9 for a year), only to not have it taste acidic. Otherwise, I don't understand why anyone would go to zero. There's no harm in a little nic for pleasure. That's like drinking alcohol free beer or decaffeinated coffee. What fun is that?

I don't have a go at people who want to vape forever, or vape 24mg nic, to each their own.
I said I started at 0mg nic due to misinformation on my 1st post, but why on earth would I go back to it now?, and as a ex-smoker, I feel nic must have played a part in my addiction.

I like decaf coffee , I do not even feel any difference, just a shame the good coffee never comes with out!, but caffeine it seems, has little to no effect on me, regarding nic, there was never any "fun" in it for me, I honestly have no idea what you mean by fun...I prefer to vape herbs once in a while for fun (legally over here).

I am a flavour chaser, not a nic chaser, I LUV flavours, how can one dislike flavours, I don't know, but many vape non flavoured and enjoy it!, this is the beauty of vaping, so much choice, so many options!, but my liquids do not come close to "acidic"!? I think you will find many *chasers/vapers and non smokers go 0mg nic/start at 0.

it can't hurt, right?

Nobody knows...but inhaling copious amounts of chemicals will never be 100% safe, harm reduction for smokers, yes for sure imo, and for now, I will go with the UK's official verdict, "95% safer than smoking".

I've also got pretty severe undiagnosed ADHD (have all the symptoms, but never went to a Dr. to be diagnosed officially), and I have noticed the nicotine helps me concentrate considerably. Anyway, I've not noticed any real negative side effects from vaping so not planning on quitting.

ADHD or not, nic is known to be beneficial in certain scenarios, and if you feel nic is really helping you, go for it.

Lastly and just as a note and with no offence meant, "Before his death, father of ADHD admitted it was a fictitious disease" the Psychiatric profession is all about generating profits for Big Pharma, while some people may really need help and even manage to find it, others and I dare say many, do not,
So many meds have never been tested properly also, scary stuff tbh.

 

[NicotineFiend]

....I have read that anything really under 3mg/ml will not support a physical addiction....

Don't believe that. Any nicotine could support a physical addiction, especially if you are vaping at high watts. You could reduce the nicotine level of your juice but increase your wattage dramatically and still be taking in more nicotine than you were before. If you start on a 5.5 watt device using 24 mg nicotine and then go down to 3 mg pushing 60 watts through your dripper, you are going to consume a heck of a lot more juice and will probably be taking in more nicotine and may be taking in more even if you drop it to 1.5 mg. I went from 24 to 6 mg, no problem, but I went from a cheapo low wattage device to 30 some odd watts. I was getting just as much nicotine. I'm not going to go up to 60 or 80 or more watts because I'll just consume more juice and blow even bigger clouds that annoy people who don't vape. But if I did go way high in wattage I know I'd have to cut my nicotine or I'd be getting nic sick on 6 mg juice that wouldn't come close to satisfying my nicotine addiction on a low wattage device.

 

[sofarsogood]

One of my relapses came after 10 years. My daily ml's are 6. I'd rather reduce ml's than nic. When I vape it encourages the smokers were I work to consider switching.

 

[MaxwellPink]

Lastly and just as a note and with no offence meant, "Before his death, father of ADHD admitted it was a fictitious disease" the Psychiatric profession is all about generating profits for Big Pharma, while some people may really need help and even manage to find it, others and I dare say many, do not,
So many meds have never been tested properly also, scary stuff tbh.

My father subscribed to this method of treatment for ADHD:


While I do believe that ADHD exists, I also believe it is over diagnosed - and not just because of big pharma. Back in the days of smaller class rooms hyper kids were easier to handle.

Since I've started vaping, which I can do freely, I've been able to take a step back and examine my smoking habits. I can see my ADHD plays a primary role. Because of this I know I will probably never get to 0 nic, but, as I stated above, I do understand those who do.

 

[MaxwellPink]

One of my relapses came after 10 years. My daily ml's are 6. I'd rather reduce ml's than nic. When I vape it encourages the smokers were I work to consider switching.

19 years here. You should see the dirty looks I get from non-smokers/former smokers when I mention that. Doesn't matter to them why I relapsed, either. That's why I don't care if I continue vaping until I die.

 

[Jdurand]

Don't believe that. Any nicotine could support a physical addiction, especially if you are vaping at high watts. You could reduce the nicotine level of your juice but increase your wattage dramatically and still be taking in more nicotine than you were before. If you start on a 5.5 watt device using 24 mg nicotine and then go down to 3 mg pushing 60 watts through your dripper, you are going to consume a heck of a lot more juice and will probably be taking in more nicotine and may be taking in more even if you drop it to 1.5 mg. I went from 24 to 6 mg, no problem, but I went from a cheapo low wattage device to 30 some odd watts. I was getting just as much nicotine. I'm not going to go up to 60 or 80 or more watts because I'll just consume more juice and blow even bigger clouds that annoy people who don't vape. But if I did go way high in wattage I know I'd have to cut my nicotine or I'd be getting nic sick on 6 mg juice that wouldn't come close to satisfying my nicotine addiction on a low wattage device.

Good point.

 

[AndriaD]

My father subscribed to this method of treatment for ADHD:


While I do believe that ADHD exists, I also believe it is over diagnosed - and not just because of big pharma. Back in the days of smaller class rooms hyper kids were easier to handle.

Since I've started vaping, which I can do freely, I've been able to take a step back and examine my smoking habits. I can see my ADHD plays a primary role. Because of this I know I will probably never get to 0 nic, but, as I stated above, I do understand those who do.

I've no experience of ADHD, but I have first-hand experience, both for myself and for my son, with ADD -- it's a "focusing" problem, even though back when I was a kid, they just thought I was lazy and unmotivated -- I wasn't, I just could not maintain focus for an entire 12-wk school term -- had the school-term been 6 weeks, I'd have had straight-As all the way thru school, and pretty sure my son would have too.

In those 12 week terms, they assign one hell of a lot of "busywork," for those kids who need SOME kind of decent grade on SOMETHING just to pass, but when one is too far around the curve, that actually plays against you -- if one already knows the material, one is going to reject busywork on general principle and read a novel instead -- my son and I both did that, but for both of us, summer-school was a piece of cake, because IT WAS SHORT!

They didn't have medication for ADD when I was kid, not knowing anything about it; I refused to even consider medicating my brilliant square-peg son just to make him fit those "average" round holes. Instead I tried to encourage him to play their stupid game, read the textbooks as interesting things to learn, and go to the library for other books on things that interested him, plus lots of Nova, Discovery, NatGeo, and trips out in the middle of the night to view meteor showers and lunar eclipses. Somehow he graduated with a 3.2 GPA, though if the terms had been 6wks instead of 12... it would have been 4.0. Not having parents who understood my problem, I only managed a 2.3 GPA.

So yes I do think it's a "real" disorder -- OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM!

Andria

 

[HemiHonda]

I smoked a 1/2 to a pack a day for 18 years. Been analog free for 7 months. I started at 18mg and now I'm down to 3mg & 6mg . Vaping is different to me, I can go without it all day and not have the desire to vape. When I smoked analogs all I could think about "is when am I going to get a chance to smoke one." I don't get cranky when I can't vape. I believe nicotine isn't the addictive part of an analog but mixed in with the other 7000 chemicals is. Anyways, yes, reducing has always been the goal. I told myself from the beginning I would give myself a year. So after a year or less it will be a casual thing I do.

 

[Ryedan]

Lastly and just as a note and with no offence meant, "Before his death, father of ADHD admitted it was a fictitious disease"

I've seen that before and it didn't sound right to me. This article on Snopes is pretty much what I believe to be true after doing some digging around about it. The original headline does make for a better urban legend than the truth though

 

[AndriaD]

I've seen that before and it didn't sound right to me. This article on Snopes is pretty much what I believe to be true after doing some digging around about it. The original headline does make for a better urban legend than the truth though

Thx for that link; GREAT article, and here's the best part:

"The problem is, if a drug is available to doctors, they'll make the corresponding diagnosis."

It's sooooooooooooo much easier to reach for a prescription pad than try to find out what's really going on!!!!!! THANKS A HELL OF A LOT, BP! They have as much evil to answer for as any genocidal dictator that ever lived.

Andria

 

[pfaber11]

I'm at 8mg now started at 36mg as i thought it was better value for my money and it was. Might try 6 mg soon but am quite happy on 8. I am sub ohming these days though so maybe that has a lot to do with it. I buy a 16 mg bottle of liquid and mix it 50 50 with glycerin. I don't know if I want to quit completely but if it proves to be painless and doable then why not . I do enjoy my vape though . Hmm we'll see.

 

[AndriaD]

I'm at 8mg now started at 36mg as i thought it was better value for my money and it was. Might try 6 mg soon but am quite happy on 8. I am sub ohming these days though so maybe that has a lot to do with it. I buy a 16 mg bottle of liquid and mix it 50 50 with glycerin. I don't know if I want to quit completely but if it proves to be painless and doable then why not . I do enjoy my vape though . Hmm we'll see.

That underlined part.. that's kinda how I feel about the prospect of easing vaping from an everyday-all the time activity, to an occasional "treat" activity. No interest in giving it up completely, and definitely no interest in giving up nicotine. But if I could get vaping from "regular" to "occasional," that would be a great thing for my asthma. Kinda how I am nowadays about soda -- I used to drink a gallon of pepsi a day; now I may have 1, or possibly 2, in a month's time.

Andria

 

[Jman8]

If I ever have need or desire to not vape nicotine, going cold turkey would make most sense for me. I'd probably keep gear around for good 3 years before I decided I for sure will no longer want it.

Cutting back would tell me I for sure still want to do it, but somehow I now think of my using as a problem. And once that occurs, I'd be wondering the whole time why I don't just go cold turkey if I'm that serious of it being a problem.