What is your go-to setup, Roxy? I'm curious what has kept you happy for so long.
Thanks in advance.
Quitting Vaping due too frustration
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What is your go-to setup, Roxy? I'm curious what has kept you happy for so long.
Thanks in advance.
Maybe one of the new tanks with the prebuilt coils may be more agreeable.
Subtank mini with its prebuilt coil has been very nice for me.
Can geta 1.2Ω coil and it is good at lower watts and the air selections are good , doesn't have to push vapor down you if you don't like that but it also has good vapor if you do want that.
There are others on the market.
I did have to fiddle with my nautilus a lot when i first got it , then moved on to other tanks.
Subtank mini with its prebuilt coil has been very nice for me.
Can geta 1.2Ω coil and it is good at lower watts and the air selections are good , doesn't have to push vapor down you if you don't like that but it also has good vapor if you do want that.
There are others on the market.
I did have to fiddle with my nautilus a lot when i first got it , then moved on to other tanks.
Hang in there. I've only been vaping since Dec. of last year. But I have learned that it's a lot of trail and error to find that perfect set up/vape. I only just found mine to be able to stop cigs completely. Since you had so much trouble with the Nautilus, try something different. That being said, I have fallen in love with my istick 50 watt(great power, great price) and the Kanger subtank mini. Also got my first RDA and want another one. LOL...you still wind up spending money. But I would rather spend it on this stuff then the stinkies.
hundreds and hundreds of dollars wasted... ? Exactly how much are you paying for your Nautilus and what type of batteries???? Also youd rather die of cancer? Seriously? I know you're frustrated but really???
i believe in the K.I.S.S rule .........keep it simple stupid .no matter what i buy it has to be simple not that i am uneducated but as i found with most things
simple is less hassle ,less problems ,less parts giving a longer life etc
its also true in foods we eat ,cars we drive ,trips we plan K.I.S.S and enjoy more ,save more
simple is less hassle ,less problems ,less parts giving a longer life etcits also true in foods we eat ,cars we drive ,trips we plan K.I.S.S and enjoy more ,save more
Could try an mvp 2.0 and an mini pro tank 2 . Works for me and not a lot of money.better than the cheap ego knock off batteries that break all the time and a better vape. Won't be trying a nautilus atomiser since you say they rust.
Eleal istick 50w and a smok gimlet cloud tank v2 ,x2 coils with a new delrin drip tip ...problem solved ...
Pretty obvious you don't want to quit, or you just would have and not posted this thread. So are you looking for attention or serious help? Search function or just perusing the forums will find you thousands of set-ups that have worked for folks. Either vape or don't vape, there is no try.
Sounds like user error. There are millions of people who have problems, but the weak give up without trying to find a happy medium
As Churchill said, "Never, never, never, never give in". I have a boat load of now idle pieces of equipment but I also have been without cigarettes for nearly a year. I am around smokers a lot and am never even tempted. My last purchase was a REO and then a second REO. It works for me and I'm not pushing the REO just offering it as my final spot. Coils were and probably always will be a work in progress but Kanthal is cheap. This vapeing thing worked for me where innumerable other methods of quitting cigarettes failed to help me.
There has been a fair amount of negative comments here, I am glad that when I started on here that I did not get the negativity. I might have been deterred. Tune it out, eyes on the goal - cigarette cessation.
So, to conclude, I don't consider all the idle stuff to represent either waste or failure - I consider that stuff to be steps along the path to success.
[As an aside, if I ever get over my fears of linking up my bank account to PayPay, I'll get on the classifieds and sell some of that, now worthless to me, stuff.]
There has been a fair amount of negative comments here, I am glad that when I started on here that I did not get the negativity. I might have been deterred. Tune it out, eyes on the goal - cigarette cessation.
So, to conclude, I don't consider all the idle stuff to represent either waste or failure - I consider that stuff to be steps along the path to success.
[As an aside, if I ever get over my fears of linking up my bank account to PayPay, I'll get on the classifieds and sell some of that, now worthless to me, stuff.]
I'm debating whether to call BS on this thread -- ??
OP stated in another thread a few months ago that money was no object - had tons to spend on some good equipment -- now he's threatening to quit because his nautilus is not behaving? I DON'T have tons of cash to spare -- I just started vaping 2 months ago, and have spent a small fortune (for my budget) on gear and juice trying to find what works for me. I'm still not fully satisfied with what I've got but I've learned a lot and I know I'm getting closer to "what works for me".
OTOH, I do see OP stating elsewhere having issues with this or that, such as trying to find a juice with a cigar or cigarette taste.
I'm really confused.
BUT... assuming you are seriously looking for someone to help you stay off cigs, I agree with other posters -- find a good vape shop where vapers hang out, talk to them, get to know who you can trust and get some advice there. Reading the forums helps, but I think the F2F will be more helpful.
OP stated in another thread a few months ago that money was no object - had tons to spend on some good equipment -- now he's threatening to quit because his nautilus is not behaving? I DON'T have tons of cash to spare -- I just started vaping 2 months ago, and have spent a small fortune (for my budget) on gear and juice trying to find what works for me. I'm still not fully satisfied with what I've got but I've learned a lot and I know I'm getting closer to "what works for me".
OTOH, I do see OP stating elsewhere having issues with this or that, such as trying to find a juice with a cigar or cigarette taste.
I'm really confused.
BUT... assuming you are seriously looking for someone to help you stay off cigs, I agree with other posters -- find a good vape shop where vapers hang out, talk to them, get to know who you can trust and get some advice there. Reading the forums helps, but I think the F2F will be more helpful.
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You are clearly at a crossroad and I/we may be too late to help. But as is customary for this board, we all feel the need to try. Sounded from your post like I would be wasting my time, but I gotta give it a shot. so let's take it one step at a time, my friend.
1. This is your first and hardest step and you, and only you can decide on which way you go. Keep trying or quit. As has been stated, your mindset is paramount in making this decision. Your post sounds like you have made up your mind and are giving up, but the fact you made the post raises a doubt that the choice has been made. If your choice is to give up vaping, no need to read on. If you are undecided or want to keep trying, be my guest.
2. Break down your gear into two areas, batteries and tanks. It sounds like your only complaint with batteries is constantly charging them. Been there, done that as have most all vapers. It can be a frustration, but it is merely a frustration easily overcome and there are a lot of choices to do just that. Bottom line as I see it, this is a non-issue until your real problem area, tanks is solved.
So now we are at your only real problem, tanks. It doesn't sound so daunting now, does it? It sounds like you tried one tank (sorry, don't remember what it was now), it didn't work well for you, so you tried another identical tank. Nothing wrong with that, after all, the first one may have just been defective. But as has been mentioned, if you have the same problem again, it is probably time to try another style or brand of tank. I've done a fair amount of trying different tanks just because there was some frustration or inconvenience to what I was using. Sound a bit familiar as in #1 with batteries? So, if you are still reading, do a little research and pick a tank that sounds like it will give you what you want. For a few bucks, you can still make use of the 100's and 100's you already have invested. And if that one totally bombs for you, go on to another. No doubt in my mind you will quickly find one that works for you and if not, come back and "talk" with us as user error may be an issue. And I would concur with the posters suggesting a B&M for some assistance if at all possible.
So there you go, pretty easy actually. Find a tank that works, then go from there as you feel any need to upgrade, improve, or just make life easier one step at a time!
And I'm not going to make any recommendations for gear here. You have/will get more then enough of that if you choose to read on. I'll only ask for an update, even if it is a simple "I quit."
Good luck, my friend and remember.......one step at a time.
1. This is your first and hardest step and you, and only you can decide on which way you go. Keep trying or quit. As has been stated, your mindset is paramount in making this decision. Your post sounds like you have made up your mind and are giving up, but the fact you made the post raises a doubt that the choice has been made. If your choice is to give up vaping, no need to read on. If you are undecided or want to keep trying, be my guest.
2. Break down your gear into two areas, batteries and tanks. It sounds like your only complaint with batteries is constantly charging them. Been there, done that as have most all vapers. It can be a frustration, but it is merely a frustration easily overcome and there are a lot of choices to do just that. Bottom line as I see it, this is a non-issue until your real problem area, tanks is solved.
So now we are at your only real problem, tanks. It doesn't sound so daunting now, does it? It sounds like you tried one tank (sorry, don't remember what it was now), it didn't work well for you, so you tried another identical tank. Nothing wrong with that, after all, the first one may have just been defective. But as has been mentioned, if you have the same problem again, it is probably time to try another style or brand of tank. I've done a fair amount of trying different tanks just because there was some frustration or inconvenience to what I was using. Sound a bit familiar as in #1 with batteries? So, if you are still reading, do a little research and pick a tank that sounds like it will give you what you want. For a few bucks, you can still make use of the 100's and 100's you already have invested. And if that one totally bombs for you, go on to another. No doubt in my mind you will quickly find one that works for you and if not, come back and "talk" with us as user error may be an issue. And I would concur with the posters suggesting a B&M for some assistance if at all possible.
So there you go, pretty easy actually. Find a tank that works, then go from there as you feel any need to upgrade, improve, or just make life easier one step at a time!
And I'm not going to make any recommendations for gear here. You have/will get more then enough of that if you choose to read on. I'll only ask for an update, even if it is a simple "I quit."
Good luck, my friend and remember.......one step at a time.
If you really want to quit nothing could be easier.
You need minimal equipment.
1. WW mod (as I understand you already have one).
2. Simple tank (even protank will do).
You need to find right strength of you juice (12-24 mg of nic). You may want to use lightest on coils juice, like simple menthol juice (coils will last for weeks). You have to say to yourself From now on I have to get my nicotine from vaping. Period.
Thats it.
Later, when you see you have staid free from smoking for a while you can start to experiment with equipment and juices, but remember that in most (all?) cases frustration is caused by user errors. So, in the beginning, try to keep things simple.
Its not for everybody. But, its perfect for anyone who sincerely has a desire to stop smoking. After a 35 year habit, I would've put forth waaay more effort than I actually had to.
Don't agree. OP is feeling very defeated right now. That colors one's emotional outlook.
It's not about being weak. It's wrong to put that on somebody you don't even know.
Good lord, what happened to this place? The OP is having a real bad day, is probably really disappointed, already feeling pretty frustrated, feeling of hopelessness in this vaping endeavor.............and you guys pile on?
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As for the past posts, it doesn't really matter what the OP has posted in the past, they logged on here to make the post because obviously sorta at wits end, I can tell that by seeing the hyperbole ("I would rather die of cancer") stuff, you know, some people exaggerate when they are really feeling "whupped".
We're supposed to be helping, not judging.
All ya'll who have it all together and have been so "successful" get a gold star. Okay. Big deal. It doesn't make you better, if you can't reach out and help somebody and don't remember what it's like in the things you have failed at. And I"m sure ya'll have failed at things, because we all have.
You are right, this isn't how it usually works here.
To the OP, get back up on the horse and keep trying. Read Allen Carr's book The Easy Way To Quit Smoking.....it's very good, it will put your head in the right place. Really. It's on amazon, it's cheap, and after you are finished you will have some insight into your head about your smoking.
Then, keep trying. Even the worst vaping gear is better than smoking cigs. Try to remember that back in 2009-2012 there really wasn't a whole lot available that is now. I don't know what the magic formula will be for you, but there is something.
If vaping fails, head on over to the SNUS topic area........."what's under your nose" ....... they are really a helpful group, and there ARE other harm reduction methods that work besides vaping!
You can do this!!!!!!!!!!
Take Buzzlove up on the phone call. The day I got my first vape kit, a kind ECFer offered that option to me, and I took it. He was very genuinely invested in saving my life......he is no longer on ECF but I always think about how he helped me.
I have a lot! Apparently I'm an RTA addict. Building turned out to be my new addiction. At this moment I think I have 25 RTAs here. Two are on loan from another member and two clones came yesterday. Ok, 23 RTAs as two are drippers.
I do tend toward unusual or more difficult builds, but I also have several anyone could learn to build, and they give a satisfying vape. I have attys I paid less than $10 for up to high end authentics, and enjoy them all. There really is something for everyone
. I'm always willing to help. Every person who gets off tobacco is a win.I was not determined to quit smoking and had decided after many times quitting that I would just keep on smoking. I had not even tried to quit in recent years. The wife unit got me an overpriced cigalike kit so I thought I would just try it. Amazingly enough it worked and over a few days I had smoked my last cigarette. Got to feeling better pretty quick with no cough and lots better "wind" when doing physical work like shoveling snow. I ordered more batteries cartos and clearos that would fit the cigalikes. Then got some ego style batts that would fit the cartos and clearos. over 2 months into vaping I still have not spent more than I was spending on cigarettes and have enough hardware to last months and enough juice fixins to also last me at least 2 more months and have saved a bit of money too. And that is even considering the well over $50 I wasted on store bought ejuice that I could not tolerate because of artificial ingredients.
Don't agree. OP is feeling very defeated right now. That colors one's emotional outlook.
It's not about being weak. It's wrong to put that on somebody you don't even know.
Good lord, what happened to this place? The OP is having a real bad day, is probably really disappointed, already feeling pretty frustrated, feeling of hopelessness in this vaping endeavor.............and you guys pile on?
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As for the past posts, it doesn't really matter what the OP has posted in the past, they logged on here to make the post because obviously sorta at wits end, I can tell that by seeing the hyperbole ("I would rather die of cancer") stuff, you know, some people exaggerate when they are really feeling "whupped".
We're supposed to be helping, not judging.
All ya'll who have it all together and have been so "successful" get a gold star. Okay. Big deal. It doesn't make you better, if you can't reach out and help somebody and don't remember what it's like in the things you have failed at. And I"m sure ya'll have failed at things, because we all have.
You are right, this isn't how it usually works here.
To the OP, get back up on the horse and keep trying. Read Allen Carr's book The Easy Way To Quit Smoking.....it's very good, it will put your head in the right place. Really. It's on amazon, it's cheap, and after you are finished you will have some insight into your head about your smoking.
Then, keep trying. Even the worst vaping gear is better than smoking cigs. Try to remember that back in 2009-2012 there really wasn't a whole lot available that is now. I don't know what the magic formula will be for you, but there is something.
If vaping fails, head on over to the SNUS topic area........."what's under your nose" ....... they are really a helpful group, and there ARE other harm reduction methods that work besides vaping!
You can do this!!!!!!!!!!
Take Buzzlove up on the phone call. The day I got my first vape kit, a kind ECFer offered that option to me, and I took it. He was very genuinely invested in saving my life......he is no longer on ECF but I always think about how he helped me.
All of the above needs to be said and said again.
We are here to help, not belittle. Manners people, manners!
Let me guess Race, Vapour eyes or?
I could be off but it sounds like something he would do 
I take this post as venting some frustration that many vapers, but not all of us, have likely felt at some point. Vaping is not as easy as smoking, but can easily be a lot more enjoyable...when it works.
I'm thinking my batteries don't last as long as a nautilus (on a hourly basis) and learned early on that you really can't have too many backups. That does cost money but when you get to your sweet spot of having enough, it makes a really huge difference. I've had as many as 16 batteries on hand, and am currently at 8, which is enough. I think 9 or 10 is my sweet spot, but 8 is more manageable. I realize all the people who have 900 devices would consider me an extreme lightweight, if not for the amount of batteries, but also for the fact that I strongly prefer cigalike batts. Helps that I have replacement policy, so cost of batteries is a tad high on the front end, but virtually no concern when one dies. Another is shipped to me, and I use my backups in the meantime, and ship the non-working one back.
I used to be into washing gear (my clearos), but don't do that anymore. For me, clearos are the price grab. They cost me in a way that is more measurable on a month to month basis, whereas juice supplies seem to last 3 months or more (and I'm not stocking up in the apocalypse fashion) and as noted above, batts are covered. But clearo cost compared to PAD cost is so heavily favored toward vaping, it is like cost of smoking in the 1980's.
It's a little hard to not take issue with "everything that has to do with vaping doesn't work" and can only be reconciled as being a statement made out of extreme frustration with one's own gear.
I'm thinking there are many here and in the larger vaping community that would strongly prefer you be given something that works (for you) than see you entertain a self imposed ultimatum of dying from cancer is better than vaping.
Btw, I'm a dual user (who hasn't finished my last pack bought in Jan.) and who does take issue with the "dying of cancer" implication attributed to smoking. But very willing to let it slide as I can tell you are visibly frustrated with your current set up.
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