Quitting Vaping due too frustration

[KattMamma]

Thats it I draw the line here, batteries constantly dying, crappy mini nautilus gunks up the base and makes the bottom fall apart even after thorough constant washing, tons of ejuices losing throat hit after about a month. Hundreds and hundreds of dollars wasted I think this is it. Everything that has to do with vaping doesnt work, already on third nautilus that broke due to the base being poorly designed allowing it to gunk up and rust. 5 batteries gone through all just running out of battery and not working or shorting out. I give up id rather die of cancer than go through this crap every day and waste all my money.

I apologize if my previous post seemed harsh or disrespectful. I didn't check previous posts looking for something to nitpick - I checked for clues as to what other gear you had tried. And then I really got confused.

Anyway I stand by what I previously said about getting F2F help at a vape shop - preferably with some customers, because they have no monetary incentive to steer you toward any particular gear.

Don't give up!!

 

[mcclintock]

I tried vaping, thought it was causing a rash etc. and quit, later remembered I did really like it over a year later and tried again. I didn't hurry transition and may never completely avoid cigs.

My approach to hardware is different than most people here or at least what they seem to say suggesting this awesome device or another. I buy some of the cheapest stuff there is and almost always carry more than two (with diff. flavors). This provides backup and spreads the load. Most of my stuff lasts a long time at a disposable price. I have noticed a tendency for whatever someone tries first usually has a problem.

 

[Rizzyking]

Haven't read the whole thread got a thumping headache into it's third day but King it can be frustrating but a little bit of patience and calm advice can do wonders. If I understand you your after a reliable setup that can be catered to your needs preferably as simple as possible and I'm sure others have said the same but an istick 30 or 50 and a subtank mini would seem ideal as the mod is as simple and reliable as mods get and the subtank mini will give you premade heads for those days when you just can't be bothered and the rba section if you feel like progressing. I have the original subtanks because I'm a greedy git and want as much liquid in a tank as I can get I use them on an istick 50 and a sigelei 50 v1 also have two lemos I use and now I've got the hang of coiling and wicking my vaping is very easy, very quick to setup and very reliable as well as being all the satisfaction I could want. I'm not anything special so if I can get there so can you and it doesn't need to take too long to get there either all the help you need is here and there are plenty of us willing to give it to get you somewhere good.

 

[EvilGenius]

pfft Ive also wasted $100s on ejuices that suck and hardware that sucks but I'm still not smoking though after 3 months + I still think about it, even had another dream about smoking the other day and I was all ...... off in my dream cuz I broke my quit streak, of course once im near the smokers at work and smell that crap I get turned off and vape away but yeah you gotta find the right setup, after about $300 on crappy cigalikes like v2cigs and blu, I got a tank pen style and I quit right there, now ive been using mech mods and a box mod

 

[BlueCanary]

That stupid mini nautilus nearly broke my will, too. I know that they're highly recommended to new vapers, and that lots of people like them, but IMO that tank sucks, and of all the vaping related frustrations that I've had fiddling with that stupid thing was the thing that nearly made me give up and buy a pack of smokes.

I know it can be frustrating, and that it seems like a lot of money and time spent finding the right thing that works how you need it to work. But it's worth it, when you do. Lots of good advice here, and lots of helpful folks in general. I'm sorry that you're having a hard time, and I hope that you don't give up.

 

[Racehorse]

Let me guess Race, Vapour eyes or? I could be off but it sounds like something he would do

I went back to my first "help me" post. July of 2012. It was a fun visit to the past! The Ego Twist had just come out---it was supposedly a "game changer"

Yes, Vapoor eyes er was in the topic..........very helpful...... so was DancingHeretik. Froginblender, Jixchel, TBinAZ, Theken. DC2 (of course!~)

The person who let me call was John D in CT. He was pretty amazing......very commited to getting people off cigs. He made a complete purchase order for me, and I was to call when it arrived.

I was overwhelmed with how many people jumped in to help me. I was really asking a lot of questions, despite having read on the forum for about 15 hours......I was SO CLUELESS, had zero idea what i was doing......almost embarassing now.

Shortly afterward, Buzzlove had some kind of contest on Youtube, and I won his used batteries. I think they were kgo's. I later put them in Treasure Chest. And DC2 taught me how to drip.....back-and-forths in PMs. I know it should seem straightforward, but really, i had no idea what to do with an over-the-counter atomizer, or how to even take care of one.

After almost 3 years I realize now how much I take for granted, i.e., vaping has gotten easier because there are more "all-in-one" type devices, that are paired to go together. Those people who helped me, we don't always agree on everything to this day, but I CREDIT THEM with helping me get off cigs......will always remember for rest of my life.

Also what made me commit to spending time in New Members, answer questions, once I was able to help a little, in an effort to pay it forward for how helpful everyone was to ME.

My first 2 weeks....I absolutely HATED vaping. I ordered juice from 2 companies and it tasted so awful I couldn't vape it. I persevered. At that point I remember thinking: "If I have to mortgage my house to get off cigs, I will do it." That is how important it was to me at the time, because I had DECIDED I did not want to smoke anymore---- but didn't know quite how that was all going to happen.

^^^^I think that is part of it though.......I always say "intention is the mother of invention " LOL
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[kingraptor724]

Glad to hear I am not the only one with nautilus mini problems, I would love any help people could give me. Perhaps some tips to buy or upgrade or something because Rebuying batteries and nautilus minis because of crap easygunk up design is not ideal. All the maintence of vaping is just overwhelming i miss just packing my pipe and then heading out.

 

[ChiBear85]

2 pad smoker for 30 yrs switched to vaping not even 2 months ago but I'm sticking with it I have an evod 2 with a evod 1300 mah vv battery and it has worked but now I feel like it isn't enough so I just ordered an Istick 50 and pre-ordered an eleaf lemo 2 and will try my hand at building coils and wicking I will not give up because of my unhappiness with my current set-up so I used this forum and a lot of YouTube videos to research and pinpoint what I think will help me stay on my path so what I'm saying is if what your using isn't working for you take advantage of the resources available to you and figure out what you believe will work and research the hell out of it and pull the trigger and try it I for one won't go back to smoking not when I've worked so hard to give it up and for the great people on this forum and in this vaping community in general kudos to all of you for helping me quit and start vaping and putting yourselves out there for people having issues like the op and to the ones being negative shame on you

 

[K_Tech]

I do understand how it can be frustrating and confusing. I figure there are easily thousands of different ways to vape, especially if you start looking at different combinations of mods and atomizers. All I can say is that I really do believe that there is one combination that works for every on, it's just a matter of sticking with it.

I wish I could put together a motivational speech for you, but I'm not much of a speaker. I do, however, know that you are in the right place for help. The thousands of us that quit smoking are a testament to the fact that vaping works. I know that it can work for you, too, and I really hope that you find a combo that does the trick for you.

 

[Susaz]

I know how you feel, eventually you'll come back to it. I know, I've been on and off for the past 6 years, now quitting vaping is no longer an option.

For those of us who like smoking and see vaping as a second rate replacement, it's always back to smoking. Excuses are plenty. Next time around it'll be different, but it's always up to you to make it work.

PS: Pinching pennies is what makes you feel frustrated. Buy from reputable vendors and demand security measures in your vapes. Seems that you've been buying in the wrong places.

 

[OlderNDirt]

Glad to hear I am not the only one with nautilus mini problems, I would love any help people could give me. Perhaps some tips to buy or upgrade or something because Rebuying batteries and nautilus minis because of crap easygunk up design is not ideal. All the maintence of vaping is just overwhelming i miss just packing my pipe and then heading out.

Welcome back, Raptor! It looks like you have a lot of choices for help, so pick your poison (sorry, poor choice of wording) and get the train rolling.

Good luck to you!

 

[roxynoodle]

Glad to hear I am not the only one with nautilus mini problems, I would love any help people could give me. Perhaps some tips to buy or upgrade or something because Rebuying batteries and nautilus minis because of crap easygunk up design is not ideal. All the maintence of vaping is just overwhelming i miss just packing my pipe and then heading out.

What's your budget, and what's important to you in an atty? Tightish airflow or open airflow?

For a mod, if you want a built in battery, I'm going to suggest the 50W istick. Oodles of battery life, decent chip, improved 510. If you want a smaller form factor, then the 30W istick.

If you want external batteries, then a Sigelei. They won't win any beauty contests, but they are solid, reliable and have good chips. You can pick up the 50W v2 for under $60 at a couple of places. If you want the extended battery life, then a 100W Plus, although you will need a charger for that one.

A single coil RTA to start. I'll have you look at the Lemo/Lemo Drop/new Lemo II, Kayfun Lite or v4, Taifun GT II, Prometey v2 clone because they are easy to set up and are all nice vapes. However, before buying a clone, talk to us before buying. Feel free to PM me for questions and build tutorials.

 

[ISGRidge]

30W istick, a protank II and air control. Simple and works very well. I've tried a LOT of devices and this combo works well for both myself and my wife. Both heavy vapers. I also use Japanese Cotton in my atties but do not re-coil. Not needed but a nice improvement.

 

[BlueCanary]

Glad to hear I am not the only one with nautilus mini problems, I would love any help people could give me. Perhaps some tips to buy or upgrade or something because Rebuying batteries and nautilus minis because of crap easygunk up design is not ideal. All the maintence of vaping is just overwhelming i miss just packing my pipe and then heading out.

I have, currently, an IPV mini V2 (70w) and an assortment of RDAs (rebuildable dripping atomizers). I also have a kanger Kbox, which is a cheap, simple, 40w regulated mod. Both of those mods take 18650 batteries that need to be recharged separately, which actually works better because then you can have a bunch of batteries ready to go and swap them out instead of waiting and twiddling your thumbs while your whole device charges. With the drippers, I build my own coils (wire is CHEAP, and it's not that hard to do the coils it just takes a little practice, but if I can do it with arthritis fingers most anyone probably can) and wick myself using organic cotton (also CHEAP). There is nothing to gurgle or fail. The mods themselves are pretty solid metal, the batteries aren't too expensive and they are fairly consistent. You might like the Kbox for its simplicity, you should look it up online and see what you think.

TBH I never really found a tank that wasn't disappointing. They all leak, or gurgle, or give dry hits, And IMO the stupid nautilus (mini and full size) was the absolute worst of the lot. My advice about it? Don't give them anymore of your money. If you need a tank, get a kanger tank. If you get a Kbox and a kanger Subtank nano, you would be better off in my opinion than with any aspire product I've found.

 

[Robino1]

All right !! Thank you all for giving the OP support!!

You all ROCK and if I could give you all hugs, I would.

 

[Rizzyking]

To start we need to get the simplest setup possible as the frustration is probably still quite high and while I fully agree something like a lemo is where most satisfaction will be it comes with a degree of frustration until you get coiling and wicking sorted hence my suggestion of the subtank mini. Using the premade heads till the frustration is gone while getting a better degree of satisfaction to show vaping doesn't have to be nothing but trouble and the option of the rebuildable when king feels comfortable enough to start on that side of vaping if he choose too. Mod wise an istick50 would give you all the power you will need getting sorted out in a very hassle free way and the other plus is this setup isnt going to break any bank balances. Right now we need to be recommending quick solutions that will demonstrate vaping can work and is pleasureable enough to warrant any further time, effort or money.

What I will also add king is research research research never take the suggestions of one forum no matter how good it is look at many and find the common consensus also don't just watch one video of something on YouTube watch all that relate to what you want to know it is time consuming and labourious but it pays dividends in the end.

 

[Susaz]

To start we need to get the simplest setup possible as the frustration is probably still quite high and while I fully agree something like a lemo is where most satisfaction will be it comes with a degree of frustration until you get coiling and wicking sorted hence my suggestion of the subtank mini. Using the premade heads till the frustration is gone while getting a better degree of satisfaction to show vaping doesn't have to be nothing but trouble and the option of the rebuildable when king feels comfortable enough to start on that side of vaping if he choose too. Mod wise an istick50 would give you all the power you will need getting sorted out in a very hassle free way and the other plus is this setup isnt going to break any bank balances. Right now we need to be recommending quick solutions that will demonstrate vaping can work and is pleasureable enough to warrant any further time, effort or money.

What I will also add king is research research research never take the suggestions of one forum no matter how good it is look at many and find the common consensus also don't just watch one video of something on YouTube watch all that relate to what you want to know it is time consuming and labourious but it pays dividends in the end.

There are times when nothing works to get you off the anxiety. Your attys gurgle, you don't have enough power, you go one step up and then you realize the problem is you and your anxiety. Smoke if you wish. You'll vape again eventually with higher hopes.

 

[Cacique]

Hey Kingraptor, glad you're still with us.

When I started vaping I was getting nothing from them, mainly because I'm a lung hit kind of guy. Once I fought the set up that worked for me, it was great. I had to learn how to build and go with a mech and dripper, but it was worth it. Going to the B&M and seeing the owner build a coild for me when I bought my first dripper helped tremendously, and I improved on that by watching several videos of close up building. I also use the Steam-Engine calculator so I can eliminate the guess-work and make sure everything is right.

If you don't want to build, and want something super simple I would recommend the Joyetech Ego One. There's 2 sizes, and bother are very small and penshaped. Barely bigger than an 18650 battery. No VV or VW, but it's a whole start up kit with a pass through battery and tank that can fire 1 ohm or .5 ohm coils. It's like a mech mod with a few safety features built in, like being able to turn off the battery and battery life warning. You can also change the tank if you wanted to use a different tank. The kit comes with the tank, battery and 1 1ohm coil and 1 .5 ohm coil, and the charger, and it's only like $45 to $55 depending on where or which one you get. A B&M store I frequent decided to bring them in after I mentioned them and they've all fallen in love with them. They went from carrying around box mods and drippers or Atlantis with the CF mod to the Ego Ones. It's on my list for something tiny to carry around instead of my mech.

Send me a PM too if you got any questions on anything or just want to talk vaping. The more you talk and get into and the more you research the easier it'll get.

 

[GinnyTx]

you're not the only one that didn't like the Nautilus/mini, I guess I draw too much but I'd flood them out as well..I gave them to my daughter ..and she loves them.

point is it's about finding what works for you (I like the Kayfun V4 I just got, but primarily use aerotank V2s & Megas with my iSticks)

it's what we start folks on if they're buying their own and then they're set..if they want to fiddle and upgrade great..if not they don't have to.

good luck!! don't give up!!!!!

 

[kingraptor724]

The thing is I liked the nautilus mini it was just made out of crappy chinese materials thus having to rebuy new ones all the time. Not to mention juices that lose flavor and throat hit over age instead of improving. The whole cotton and putting new cotton in when wanting to try new flavors etc seems so much of a hassle.