Quitting Vaping due too frustration

[AndriaD]

Not sure how you can help then.

Everyone has their assets and downfalls. I know I do.

to the OP: lest we not forget the most important part........all the gear in the world will not help you unless you truly have the DESIRE to quit smoking. It starts in your head.

And the corollary to that is that if you truly have the desire, you will keep fighting until you find what works. You don't just give up because it's hard. I had to deal with not only hardware and PG/VG issues, but issues with MY BODY all thru last year, and during the summer had a month-long relapse to smoking... but I fought my way back, and now both my health and my hardware seem to be cooperating, and I've found the proper ratio of PG/VG for this body, and the way to stay hydrated and avoid electrolyte issues.

The bottom-line is that I finally found something that actually works to help me stay smoke-free, and that's worth *whatever* effort I have to put into it. But if I hadn't really wanted to make it work, I had all sorts of brilliant excuses last year to just go back to smoking and stay there. Now that e-cigs exist in all sorts of wonderful permutations, there are no good reasons to go back to smoking -- but there's a virtual infinity of excuses.

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

My own thoughts, as I struggled with my own problems with vaping...

Rebuildables seem intimidating at first, *really* intimidating, but they're not; it's just a new thing to learn, and that's what brains are for. I got so utterly sick and tired of replacement coils, the cost, the hassle, the constant waiting to see if vapemail would arrive before my last coil got trashed... so I started learning the rebuilding, as a way of taking control. Once I figured out that it wasn't as scary as all that, I got a Kayfun... and that was really a turning-point; I could finally TASTE what I was vaping, and I could get excellent TH without having to stand on my head and hold my mouth right. I figured out that rebuilding is actually the EASIEST way to get a great vape, and the cost is so low, it's hard to measure.

It's true that tanks can present problems of their own, though I've had zero issues with my Tobeco Kayfun Lite Plus's, and even the EHPro KFL+ is pretty solid, but if you want something a little simpler, the Magma RDA is an excellent choice; easy to build, deep well so you're not needing to drip *constantly*, and the vape is just outstanding. Clones of those are not expensive; I got a Tobeco clone of the Magma from eciggity, for $18.99.

I had a hard time at first, finding an ejuice I could use as a replacement for cigarettes, but fortunately after just a couple weeks of searching, I found "Virginia" at MyFreedomSmokes, and it was PERFECT. Now I don't even like it, it tastes TOO MUCH! like cigarettes, but when I started out, that was just what I needed, something similar enough that I didn't feel a lack. Whatever kind of cigarettes you preferred, check MyFreedomSmokes; they have a comparison chart for all the major American brands, to help you find an ejuice that will suit your preference.

For mods, my personal preference is for mods that use removable batteries; to me it's just easier that way, recharging batteries daily rather than having the mod out of commission while it's charging, but there are quite a few mods nowadays that have the "pass-thru" feature, so you can still vape while they're charging (though the charging takes longer, used that way). I've seen a lot of good things said about the iStick 30 and iStick 50 and the various MVPs, but personally I'd recommend a Sigelei-ANYTHING; excellent quality, and they won't break the bank. My Sigelei Zmax v3 is nearly a year old, and it's by far the most dependable device I own.

If you want to keep trying and keep vaping, quit trying to do the same thing over and over; you're just going to get the same results. Look into rebuilding, get a Kayfun or a Magma; you'll get excellent flavor and very little hassle. The mod you put it on is less important, as long as you keep battery issues in mind -- no super-low resistance on batteries that can't handle it. I personally thought the Nautilus sucked rocks, and sold mine within a week of buying it -- and right after that, I got a Kayfun, and discovered that vaping doesn't have to be hard -- but it's always going to take a little more effort than smoking. If you just can't handle any effort at all, then by all means, go back to smoking; it's easy, and really easy to damage your health that way too, but it's your decision; only you can decide if your health is worth some effort to maintain.

Andria

 

[Susan2014]

I started vaping some months back. I have had 13 cigs since then and not full smokes either just a puff or two and got sick. I can not vape most juice that others can. I can't tell you how many juices from all types of company's I have tried. I got upset yes but I did not give up. I tried different pg/vg mixes etc. I don't taste most juice most of the time but the ones I use don't hurt my chest. I was lucky and had my sister to help me with what to buy at first. My next step was to try the itaste vv/vw. I loved it but found maybe I put the kanger protank mini on it to tight but those did not last me long enough. Tried the MVP 2.5 but did not like the feel of it in my hands. So next I tried the provari mini and I love it so far. I now make my own coils and that saves me a lot of money and when I have the money I am going to try a better RTA. I have a kayfun mini and not thrilled with it, so will try a different one soon. Sorry so long but what I am trying to say is we all spend to much money at first but you will get it after awhile..Don't keep buying the same tank if you don't like it or it does not work for you. I am not rich and have to save to get my toys but real smokes would cost me more then these things I have been using. Don't give up take the help that is offered here on this site. Most people here are wonderful and help with most anything.
Roxynoodle I may ask you for help if you would not mind about a RTA. There are so many out there and I have read to my eyes are crossed. LOL
Susan

 

[SkvLTD]

Thats it I draw the line here, batteries constantly dying, crappy mini nautilus gunks up the base and makes the bottom fall apart even after thorough constant washing, tons of ejuices losing throat hit after about a month. Hundreds and hundreds of dollars wasted I think this is it. Everything that has to do with vaping doesnt work, already on third nautilus that broke due to the base being poorly designed allowing it to gunk up and rust. 5 Batteries gone through all just running out of battery and not working or shorting out. I give up id rather die of cancer than go through this crap every day and waste all my money.

I like building my own coils and wicks for variety of options available that way, all entirely up to you, and there are plenty devices that are nice and simple to set up and use. iTaste VV3 or 4 and Kayfun of sorts or Fogger Mini is what's been working for me for a whiiile now.

 

[drysprocket]

Yeah, some of these responses are depressing.

kingraptor, I truly feel your pain, and I think most of us have been there when we were early on. The learning curve of vaping can't be under stated, since there is so little to compare it to.

I have a lot of suggestions and would be happy to talk you through some of it- specifically since I've dealt with the Nautilus drama in the past (and made it through and now love it.)

Please feel free to PM me if you want a guide to take you through it. I mean it. There are solutions, and vaping can be easy- you just need some tech support. PM me if you're willing to give it a shot.

 

[Robino1]

Before you go back to smoking PM me and Ill be happy to talk to you on the phone. Ive tried lots and lots of set up maybe I can help you find something that will keep you off the cigs.

Yeah, some of these responses are depressing.

kingraptor, I truly feel your pain, and I think most of us have been there when we were early on. The learning curve of vaping can't be under stated, since there is so little to compare it to.

I have a lot of suggestions and would be happy to talk you through some of it- specifically since I've dealt with the Nautilus drama in the past (and made it through and now love it.)

Please feel free to PM me if you want a guide to take you through it. I mean it. There are solutions, and vaping can be easy- you just need some tech support. PM me if you're willing to give it a shot.

And these are a huge part of why I devote my spare time to ECF. The ability to go above and beyond what is expected. Thank you for affirming my belief in my fellow vapers and members.

To the OP, please take advantage of the help offered here. We all have gone through our frustrating times and have come through to the other side. It is a learning experience, even the ones that don't go well.

Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, start all over again. You Can Do It.

 

[DC2]

It can be frustrating, especially in the beginning. A life saver for me were cheap ($5.00) bridgeless dripping atomizers. When I was repairing or learning how to use a new rebuildable device, I knew that I could always screw one of them onto my Provari, (on sale right now for half of what I paid) drip 4 or 5 drops and get my fix while I sorted things out. They never let me down and I still use them to check the steeping progress of juice. Not as popular as they once were but still out there. I got my last batch from Kidney Puncher. Hang in there. You can do it.

I like to keep things simple, and want them to work all the time, every time.
That's why I use standard Joyetech 510 atomizers.

Lots of people don't like dripping THAT often.
I like it a lot, because it replaces some of the smoking rituals that I enjoyed so much.


There is a whole world of options out there, and a solution for every problem or need.
You just have to focus, and identify what it is exactly that you really want.

 

[kkay59]

I am just reading this thread. I do know how frustrating it can be, to get started in vaping. I thought I would save money. I didn't plan on this being a hobby. Smoking a cigarette IS easier. But think of the big picture. Easy is not better, not by a long shot. At first things can look intimidating. You have to find what excites you, as far as gear. Sadly that takes money. (often a lot of it too) You can pm me anytime you feel like it. No question is a dumb one. I will try to give you ideas, and advice. I quit smoking last October. I went pretty fast down the rebuildable road. People in ECF helped me get on my feet. I can do the same for you. I didn't have friends who vape. But between ECF, and You Tube, I am pretty solid on how to vape, and what I like. I think helping you, would put a smile on my face. It would be an honor. I don't know all the answers, but I can surely help find out, if there is something I don't know. I don't sub ohm just yet. But I have spent countless hours studying about vaping, and talking to people. I have rta, and rda gear, that I could talk you through, if you would like. I did use clearomizers for a while. I can help you with that if you prefer. People have extended a hand to you. Now all you have to do, is accept. It will get better, believe me!

Oh, and if you are reading this, and you feel the same way as the poster here...feel free to send me a pm too.

 

[DC2]

There are so many factors to what makes vaping work for someone, or causes them to dislike it.

Some like to fiddle, some don't want to fiddle at all.
Some want small, some don't care.
The list goes on.

Here is a poll that will help people understand how different we all are...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ou-put-down-those-last-couple-cigarettes.html

There are so many factors to what makes vaping work for someone.
It's just figuring out what that is that is the hard part.

The good news is that there is a solution out there.
As long as you fully understand your problem.


EDIT: I suggest that fully understanding your problem is the hardest part
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[Wissel Joe]

I smoked 2 packs a day for 30 years i failed every time i tried to quit, i started vaping with a evod vv then a ipow2 it was ok but batteries always died my pro tank mini was always empty and weak hits i was about sick of it and ready to go back to cigarettes, then i got a istick 20 the istick 30 would be better and a eleaf gs air tank i have been using this set up for 2.5 months with zero issues. I love this set up would never go back to cigarettes again. the istick 30 and a gs air is about $45 I was spending more a week on cigs alone.

 

[KurrptSenate]

:wave:

he'll be back

 

[CMD-Ky]

:wave:

he'll be back

With a name like KurrptSenate, I would find it hard to find fault with much that you might say. That being said, I agree with you. I tried and tried vaping, one day, it came and I began to enjoy vapeing and then was off cigarettes. As the Zen folks say, "Sitting quietly, doing nothing; spring comes and the grass grows by itself."

 

[AndriaD]

I smoked 2 packs a day for 30 years i failed every time i tried to quit, i started vaping with a evod vv then a ipow2 it was ok but batteries always died my pro tank mini was always empty and weak hits i was about sick of it and ready to go back to cigarettes, then i got a istick 20 the istick 30 would be better and a eleaf gs air tank i have been using this set up for 2.5 months with zero issues. I love this set up would never go back to cigarettes again. the istick 30 and a gs air is about $45 I was spending more a week on cigs alone.

Hey, I just noticed -- gratz on the 90 days! That was a biggie for me!

Andria

 

[StrahmNoMore]

I remember kinda feeling like this early on. Coils get gunked up, batteries die, equipment fails, tanks leak etc. I just knew I didn't wanna smoke again and was glad to have eventually found a set up that I love and works for me.

 

[ITPython]

Thats it I draw the line here, batteries constantly dying, crappy mini nautilus gunks up the base and makes the bottom fall apart even after thorough constant washing, tons of ejuices losing throat hit after about a month. Hundreds and hundreds of dollars wasted I think this is it. Everything that has to do with vaping doesnt work, already on third nautilus that broke due to the base being poorly designed allowing it to gunk up and rust. 5 Batteries gone through all just running out of battery and not working or shorting out. I give up id rather die of cancer than go through this crap every day and waste all my money.

I feel your pain, I have been on-off vaping for many years now for similar reasons. I end up spending a boat load of money and wasting a lot of time trying to make things work or get a decent vape on. I try again every year or so to see how the technology has progressed and if things have come to the point where it is convenient and easy to vape. And to be honest, I think the time has arrived.

First off, ditch the old tanks like the nautilus. Tanks are now at a point where they are on-par with dripping (clouds and taste) and also to a point where the days of leaking, gurgling, and annoying filling methods are at an end. Do yourself a huge favor before you finally quit and get yourself a Kanger Subtank (mini or nano, preferably mini as it is the best all around subtank). It will blow your mind how much of a night-and-day difference it makes over the old-style tanks. I am completely in awe with mine, absolutely NO leaking, no gurgling, and filling up is extremely easy and doesn't even make the slightest mess. You can fill even if there is juice in the tank without worrying about spilling. Plus the tanks are crazy simple to clean and come apart completely. Flavor is crazy, and if your worried about not getting throat hit then you will surprise the hell out of yourself when you try vaping anything over 6mg in a subtank. I started off trying 18mg (because that is what I used to do on the older tanks) and it felt like my throat was getting ripped out and sanded down with coarse sand paper. Suffice to say, throat-hit is NOT a problem with a subtank. And most usually end up dropping to 3mg or 6mg because it is so insanely efficient.

Next suggestion, get yourself a quality variable wattage device. Luckily with the subtanks they don't need to go over 30 watts to get their full potential (I usually stick around 20-25), so you don't even need a crazy high wattage device. I have both the Sigelei 100W+ and a much smaller eleaf istick 30w, and both work amazingly well with these tanks. And with variable wattage you can customize the vape in any way you want.

Last suggestion, avoid the garbage brands of batteries (ultrafire, trustfire etc). If you get a device that takes 18650 batteries, then get something like the efest high-drain batteries (in purple wrap). Or even the MXJO's are good too, I have both and they work wonderfully in my Sigelei with no issues. And I charge them effortlessly in a Nitecore intellicharger i4.

 

[Wissel Joe]

Hey, I just noticed -- gratz on the 90 days! That was a biggie for me!

Andria

Thank You, I havnt gone this long without a cig. since i was 16 years old, It has been pretty easy and i feel so much better.

 

[AndriaD]

Thank You, I havnt gone this long without a cig. since i was 16 years old, It has been pretty easy and i feel so much better.

Yeah it's the only thing that's ever worked for me, and my sig says it all -- "my personal best", the longest I've gone without a cigarette since May 1975. There are quite a few people around here that weren't even born then!

Andria

 

[realsis]

Thats it I draw the line here, batteries constantly dying, crappy mini nautilus gunks up the base and makes the bottom fall apart even after thorough constant washing, tons of ejuices losing throat hit after about a month. Hundreds and hundreds of dollars wasted I think this is it. Everything that has to do with vaping doesnt work, already on third nautilus that broke due to the base being poorly designed allowing it to gunk up and rust. 5 Batteries gone through all just running out of battery and not working or shorting out. I give up id rather die of cancer than go through this crap every day and waste all my money.

Hi, I'm so sorry your experience is awful. I haven't read through this thread and not sure what others have said but I really want to help. At first I was a lot like you. I went through honestly ten devices in about 7 months. Then I decided what I wanted to make me happy and that was a good reliable high wattage device with great battery life and I could sub ohm on it. It did cost but when I realized what I wanted and went for it, I've been completely happy since. I make my own coils because RDAS and RBAS are great tanks that usually don't leak or give problems. My batteries last 3 full days without charge, and I make my own e juice or buy preimum. My point is, if their is something your not liking about your equipment make a list of what you want out of vaping and match your needs to your equipment. We have tons of options and not all vaping equipment fails. Not all tanks leak, and not all juice is bad. I'm finally at a point I'm completely happy with my vaping experience. By making note of what I needed to make me happy and matching that with the right tanks and equipment. Everything works perfectly and I have zero complaints. It's almost a year smoke free now for me.I guess what I'm trying to say is, don't give up. You will find what you need if you just ask yourself what you want out of your vaping experience. Then match it with the correct equipment. If the equipment doesn't work correctly get your money back and find something that does. It's really up to you. If your wanting to smoke and quit it won't work. But if your willing to give it a try and find out what you think will make you happy and go for it, then you will susceed. Attitude is everything. I do wish you the best in which ever you decide . Good luck

 

[Wissel Joe]

Yeah it's the only thing that's ever worked for me, and my sig says it all -- "my personal best", the longest I've gone without a cigarette since May 1975. There are quite a few people around here that weren't even born then!

Andria

I was 7 in 1975 didnt start smoking till 1984

 

[beckdg]

all the gear in the world will not help you unless you truly have the DESIRE to quit smoking. It starts in your head.

not necessarily.

i didn't want at all to quit... anymore. but i did...

though, my motivation was important. i wanted to "smoke" something safer around my kids and have more time for them.\

it worked better than i could have imagined.