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One more question - what would be the steeping time on my mix?
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That is a LOT of menthol. I think you would be happier with your mint ice cream if you used 2% Creme de Menthe (TFA), 1-2% 10% Menthol Solution, and 1% Koolada or .75% WS-23.
 

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I haven't found any reviews on Grapefruit that sound that great. One review on Grapefruit said use FLV Pink Guava instead cause it's a much better flavor.

What do you want to know about grapefruit? My favorites are a mix of Pink Guava, FW Ruby Red, and INW White.

GRAPEFRUIT

CAPELLA
  • Grapefruit
    This is the weakest and the sweetest of the grapefruit flavors I tested. The big plus is that the sour flavor imparts the perception of a mild effervescence and a slightly tangy mouthfeel. That alone could make this grapefruit flavor a good addition to a grapefruit mix. Stronger flavors are needed for a full flavor but the perception of effervescence is a plus. The sweetness helps to give this a fuller bodied mouthfeel.
Wayne says, “This is the more "candied" version of the grapefruits. There's not much of that bitter flavoring, but it makes up for it in its sweetness. It's also a bit more bodied than FA and INW's grapefruits, meaning it can hold up a bit better to heavier recipes than the
others. That being said, it's still quite light. But its presence, sweetness, and easier blending makes this my go to choice if I need to add
some grapefruit accents into a mix, or if I want a full bodied grapefruit main profile that leans on the candy side. It holds itself better,
imbues its grapefruit-like flavor, and boosts the sweetness of any citrus or light fruit recipes you'd mix. I generally like to use this
ingredient in these situations at around 5 - 6%, but if you're using it as a main, feel free to take a bit higher.”

FLAVORAH
  • Pink Guava
    The only flavor I pick up is a bright delicious grapefruit. It is tart and fresh – luscious even! This is a delicious, slightly sweet fresh grapefruit. Some say they pick up lychee, pineapple, even strawberry but I tasted delicious sweet, not sour grapefruit. WONDERFUL!!!! This captures the pleasantly bitter flavor of the grapefruit, plus a whole lot of flavor. It is also juicy, a bonus in a grapefruit mix, with a full-bodied mouth feel.
RunDastardly says, “a juicy, ripe, idealized pink grapefruit that has it's own yummy wetness akin to INW Cactus (though it plays very
well with Cactus at low % too!). It has something "extra" to it, but that adds to, rather than detracts from, it's grapefruitiness. Strong as
hell. Excellent stand-alone, but also works beautifully with any number of other fruits, especially other citrus & juicy tropical fruits like
mango and pineapple.”

FLAVOUR ART
  • Grapefruit
    Authentic, natural grapefruit, light, tart, and a little bitter. It is thin, so doesn’t give any mouth feel but the flavor is spot on natural grapefruit
Wayne’s Notes: “This is the more authentic grapefruit of the bunch. It has such a natural quality about it, and this makes the flavoring
an easy choice if you need an unadulterated grapefruit flavor. So for main profiles, this is usually what I enjoy using if I want a true to
life grapefruit flavor. It's a light flavoring (this is a pattern you'll see in all of these ingredients) so using at 3-4% is not uncommon.
But it's refreshing, slightly tart and bitter, a bit more sweet than you'd think, and light on body. Lastly, it's best used in more simple
recipes when acting as a main profile. It really shines when it's not crowded with other fruits distracting from its subtle accents. Keep
things simple and light, and you'll be just fine.”


FLAVOR WEST
  • Ruby Red Grapefruit
    Nice red grapefruit flavor. A little sweeter than Flavorah Pink Guava, and I honestly get more of a lush grapefruit aroma from Flavorah’s Pink Guava. This is really nice and if I had never tried Pink Guava, I would probably think this was the queen of grapefruit flavors. In a grapefruit blend, this flavor has its place. It has a sweet, tart balance and does taste like a real grapefruit. This is the sweet body of the grapefruit. For a grapefruit vape, use Pink Guava, Ruby Red, and White Grapefruit for a complete grapefruit flavor. This does impart some full-bodied mouthfeel as it is not as thin as INW and FA.
ConcreteRiver says “Good, straight-forward, ruby red grapefruit juice. It's sweet, a little tart, and right on target. This is what I'd pick
up if I were to pick up just one grapefruit concentrate. I think this one blends the easiest with other fruit flavors and creams.”


INAWERA
  • White Grapefruit
    An authentic grapefruit flavor. This one has the zest. This one has the grapefruit juice flavor, for me. This is heavy on the bitter zest. There is some light sweetness here. It tastes like a white grapefruit, similar in taste to a ruby red. Perfect for adding a zest note to any fruit. This would be great with cranberry. Citric, bright, and tart. Thin in mouthfeel.
RunDastardly says, “A drier version of INW Grapefruit with much more peel. If INW Grapefruit is the pulp & juice, this is the zest. 0.25%
or less adds a nice "twist" essence to a cocktail.” Wayne’s Notes: “This grapefruit is the lightest of the bunch (CAP, FA, & INW). But it
packs the most tartness, bitterness, and citrus. So in situations where I want to boost the citrus in a recipe, boost its sour flavor, or add
some interesting dimension, I'll reach for this ingredient. This is because its flavor profile often gets a bit too hidden in recipes that have
any kind of weight to it, but the tartness and citrus remain. It's of the "white" grapefruit variety meaning there's this refreshing, almost
water-like, flavor to it in the top end. This can be further pushed by a touch of FA Cucumber. And when using as an accent or
"enhancer", I like to sit around 0.5 - 1.5%.”

  • Yellow Grapefruit
    This is an actual authentic grapefruit flavor. It is lightly sweet. This is the zest of the grapefruit, bright, citric, tart and somewhat bitter. I honestly don’t taste a lot of difference between this and the white, so consider them interchangeable in a recipe, though not as a stand-alone flavor. This flavor seems to be weaker than the White Grapefruit. Thin in mouthfeel.
 

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OK sweet - I'm gonna do 2 15ml batches - one can be a tester, the other a steeper.

Thank you :thumbs:

I don't think you will need the steep. There is nothing in your ingredient list that benefits from a steep really. If you take my advice and use TFA Creme de Menthe, you might want to leave the cap off for a couple of hours for a small batch for the alcohol to evaporate.
 

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    What do you want to know about grapefruit? My favorites are a mix of Pink Guava, FW Ruby Red, and INW White.

    GRAPEFRUIT

    CAPELLA
    • Grapefruit
      This is the weakest and the sweetest of the grapefruit flavors I tested. The big plus is that the sour flavor imparts the perception of a mild effervescence and a slightly tangy mouthfeel. That alone could make this grapefruit flavor a good addition to a grapefruit mix. Stronger flavors are needed for a full flavor but the perception of effervescence is a plus. The sweetness helps to give this a fuller bodied mouthfeel.
    Wayne says, “This is the more "candied" version of the grapefruits. There's not much of that bitter flavoring, but it makes up for it in its sweetness. It's also a bit more bodied than FA and INW's grapefruits, meaning it can hold up a bit better to heavier recipes than the
    others. That being said, it's still quite light. But its presence, sweetness, and easier blending makes this my go to choice if I need to add
    some grapefruit accents into a mix, or if I want a full bodied grapefruit main profile that leans on the candy side. It holds itself better,
    imbues its grapefruit-like flavor, and boosts the sweetness of any citrus or light fruit recipes you'd mix. I generally like to use this
    ingredient in these situations at around 5 - 6%, but if you're using it as a main, feel free to take a bit higher.”

    FLAVORAH
    • Pink Guava
      The only flavor I pick up is a bright delicious grapefruit. It is tart and fresh – luscious even! This is a delicious, slightly sweet fresh grapefruit. Some say they pick up lychee, pineapple, even strawberry but I tasted delicious sweet, not sour grapefruit. WONDERFUL!!!! This captures the pleasantly bitter flavor of the grapefruit, plus a whole lot of flavor. It is also juicy, a bonus in a grapefruit mix, with a full-bodied mouth feel.
    RunDastardly says, “a juicy, ripe, idealized pink grapefruit that has it's own yummy wetness akin to INW Cactus (though it plays very
    well with Cactus at low % too!). It has something "extra" to it, but that adds to, rather than detracts from, it's grapefruitiness. Strong as
    hell. Excellent stand-alone, but also works beautifully with any number of other fruits, especially other citrus & juicy tropical fruits like
    mango and pineapple.”

    FLAVOUR ART
    • Grapefruit
      Authentic, natural grapefruit, light, tart, and a little bitter. It is thin, so doesn’t give any mouth feel but the flavor is spot on natural grapefruit
    Wayne’s Notes: “This is the more authentic grapefruit of the bunch. It has such a natural quality about it, and this makes the flavoring
    an easy choice if you need an unadulterated grapefruit flavor. So for main profiles, this is usually what I enjoy using if I want a true to
    life grapefruit flavor. It's a light flavoring (this is a pattern you'll see in all of these ingredients) so using at 3-4% is not uncommon.
    But it's refreshing, slightly tart and bitter, a bit more sweet than you'd think, and light on body. Lastly, it's best used in more simple
    recipes when acting as a main profile. It really shines when it's not crowded with other fruits distracting from its subtle accents. Keep
    things simple and light, and you'll be just fine.”


    FLAVOR WEST
    • Ruby Red Grapefruit
      Nice red grapefruit flavor. A little sweeter than Flavorah Pink Guava, and I honestly get more of a lush grapefruit aroma from Flavorah’s Pink Guava. This is really nice and if I had never tried Pink Guava, I would probably think this was the queen of grapefruit flavors. In a grapefruit blend, this flavor has its place. It has a sweet, tart balance and does taste like a real grapefruit. This is the sweet body of the grapefruit. For a grapefruit vape, use Pink Guava, Ruby Red, and White Grapefruit for a complete grapefruit flavor. This does impart some full-bodied mouthfeel as it is not as thin as INW and FA.
    ConcreteRiver says “Good, straight-forward, ruby red grapefruit juice. It's sweet, a little tart, and right on target. This is what I'd pick
    up if I were to pick up just one grapefruit concentrate. I think this one blends the easiest with other fruit flavors and creams.”


    INAWERA
    • White Grapefruit
      An authentic grapefruit flavor. This one has the zest. This one has the grapefruit juice flavor, for me. This is heavy on the bitter zest. There is some light sweetness here. It tastes like a white grapefruit, similar in taste to a ruby red. Perfect for adding a zest note to any fruit. This would be great with cranberry. Citric, bright, and tart. Thin in mouthfeel.
    RunDastardly says, “A drier version of INW Grapefruit with much more peel. If INW Grapefruit is the pulp & juice, this is the zest. 0.25%
    or less adds a nice "twist" essence to a cocktail.” Wayne’s Notes: “This grapefruit is the lightest of the bunch (CAP, FA, & INW). But it
    packs the most tartness, bitterness, and citrus. So in situations where I want to boost the citrus in a recipe, boost its sour flavor, or add
    some interesting dimension, I'll reach for this ingredient. This is because its flavor profile often gets a bit too hidden in recipes that have
    any kind of weight to it, but the tartness and citrus remain. It's of the "white" grapefruit variety meaning there's this refreshing, almost
    water-like, flavor to it in the top end. This can be further pushed by a touch of FA Cucumber. And when using as an accent or
    "enhancer", I like to sit around 0.5 - 1.5%.”

    • Yellow Grapefruit
      This is an actual authentic grapefruit flavor. It is lightly sweet. This is the zest of the grapefruit, bright, citric, tart and somewhat bitter. I honestly don’t taste a lot of difference between this and the white, so consider them interchangeable in a recipe, though not as a stand-alone flavor. This flavor seems to be weaker than the White Grapefruit. Thin in mouthfeel.
    Thank you so much. I was looking for the less sweet choices What are the percentages of your blend?

    That info was very helpful,Thanks again:wub:
     
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    I got my POM Gin and Tonic mixed this morning and ran too low on nic base to mix anything else. I use 4 120ml bottles for making my nic base, It doesn't last that long when I'm doing lots of mixes but that's ok. It's quick to make more.
     

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    Yellow Grapefruit
    This is an actual authentic grapefruit flavor. It is lightly sweet. This is the zest of the grapefruit, bright, citric, tart and somewhat bitter. I honestly don’t taste a lot of difference between this and the white, so consider them interchangeable in a recipe, though not as a stand-alone flavor. This flavor seems to be weaker than the White Grapefruit. Thin in mouthfeel.
    Is this the same as INW grapefruit or is it actually yellow grapefruit? I have INW grapefruit and wondering if it’s the same one. Thanks for sharing so many flavor notes ect! They’re so detailed and helpful:thumb:
     
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    I've managed to keep my BCF cart active. I've even added a keeper flavor in the cart. The 4th is getting closer and I'm getting antsy. I have some interesting flavors in my cart this time around. If there's no sale I'll at least get the free shipping and that's a $8+ savings:)
     

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    Just noticed my cart totals 13 keepers.
    Can't have that. Either have to dump one or add one. At this point there really isn't anything I want to dump. Woe is me.:lol:
    Give it time. You always manage to talk yourself out of 'something'..........j/k

    LOL

    Morning Fran

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    I'm assuming so since listed under INW.
    Yes but under Inawera @PJReid has her reviews for both white grapefruit and yellow grapefruit. I have neither yet but I do have INW grapefruit. I didn’t know if yellow grapefruit is the name or she meant yellow as in opposed to white grapefruit.
     

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    Yes but under Inawera @PJReid has her reviews for both white grapefruit and yellow grapefruit. I have neither yet but I do have INW grapefruit. I didn’t know if yellow grapefruit is the name or she meant yellow as in opposed to white grapefruit.
    Oh.well. I don't know that:lol:
     

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    I think age is stealing my memory or maybe it's just stress over hubs failing health??

    But anyway I just found I'd already mixed that exact Cranberry Gin and Tonic recipe. I'm wondering why it wasn't notable as being tart?? I'm going to try it shortly. The only difference is the first mix has no WS23.
     

    Sugar_and_Spice

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    Good morning,Sugar. I know,right? But this time I have nothing I want to dump.
    So add something you know you don't want and keep adding it and deleting it until order time to keep your cart active. That makes it stress free.
    Whatcha think?

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    Sugar_and_Spice

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    I think age is stealing my memory or maybe it's just stress over hubs failing health??

    But anyway I just found I'd already mixed that exact Cranberry Gin and Tonic recipe. I'm wondering why it wasn't notable as being tart?? I'm going to try it shortly. The only difference is the first mix has no WS23.
    Don't beat yourself up about that. I do something similar like that all the time. At the time I am doing it(something like changing a pw), I think....oh I will remember this.....NOT.... so forgetting to note something isn't out of my norm either. It usually happens when I have too many things going on at the same time. You, my friend, have had loads of stress piled on you and it can take a toll. Laugh at yourself, give yourself a pass and say oh well, it happens.

    And you have a 2nd bottle of the stuff you like, win win....

    :)
     

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