You can use the TFA coconut...I am sorry, I didn't remember what you had in it already and thought it was the TFA(memory is shot). TFA coconut is good but start maybe @1%. Remember you can always add but its hard to get it out once its in there.
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IIRC both the TFA coconut and TFA coconut candy don't require long steeps. Maybe a day or three.
Oh good. Thanks.
Me too....on both............Real Flavors(RF) sorry, guess I am tired or old or both.
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I haven't tried that one, I enjoy the grapes I have so not too curious. Do enjoy the raspberry and abc very much. The kiwi is just plain lovely for me, one of the few I mix as a stand alone as often as I use it in a mix. Pairs very well with mandarin flavor. Suspect the cream cheese and sb gelato will be keepers as well.Out of the few RL flavors I have tried(I tried like 7 or 8), the grape is the only one I liked.
Will do, very long steep on the cc just like italian cream and cci.Sounds good.....let me know how they turn out please. Especially the cream cheese.
My CCI is almost ready. Another week.
I just get bland icing until around 6-8 weeks from it. Think I am going to start mixing 120ml ambers of some of these long steepers. That way I can just pull 30ml off and add the other flavors.
I used to do that with OSDIY chocolate and TFA coconut extra. I would mix 15 ml each. So when I wanted a candy like vape I would just pull some of both and mix. A tank full would do me for a while. Trying to mix those 2 together and waiting for a steep that was almost 2 months(maybe more)=frustrating. It took forever, so the first time, I think I gave up and put the bottle in the back. Found it several months later and it was delicious. Haven't had any for quite some time now.....mmm...maybe will revisit that. LOL
Found my og cci tester after about 4 months of steeping, added a few drops of lemon and had tank full of creamy delight. Amazing how long some of these flavors hold up.I used to do that with OSDIY chocolate and TFA coconut extra. I would mix 15 ml each. So when I wanted a candy like vape I would just pull some of both and mix. A tank full would do me for a while. Trying to mix those 2 together and waiting for a steep that was almost 2 months(maybe more)=frustrating. It took forever, so the first time, I think I gave up and put the bottle in the back. Found it several months later and it was delicious. Haven't had any for quite some time now.....mmm...maybe will revisit that. LOL
Actually, if we all weren't so impatient about waiting for most of these flavors, we could get away with using probably half of what we actually do. Lots of my daily vapes are single flavors( or a one shot) and if I really like them I make big bottles and put it in the fridge. The flavors will keep developing for a while yet and get stronger. Some a lot stronger. Like FW Spearmint. I found this out about the time I was switching mg strength from 6mg to 3mg so it was very convenient for me to half those flavors and be done with it. Tasted just like I just mixed them. Of course then I had twice the amount I had started with, but they are still doing just fine. No flavor loss and I am not jonesing for a smoke so the mg is fine. I don't think they would have held up as well if I had kept them room temp in a cabinet somewhere, just my humble opinion.
Just got one order, two more should be here Monday. “The LIST “ is NOT empty... y’all didn’t warn me it was never endingBroke down and added it to my wishlist.
. I really thought at some point, some million orders down the road, I’d have everything I needed. Nope. Nope. Nope. 
Just wanted to add that those are the big bottles that I fill my 30ml daily bottles with and the 30ml bottles are at room temp. Flavors still good and of course much easier to fill tanks when at room temp.Actually, if we all weren't so impatient about waiting for most of these flavors, we could get away with using probably half of what we actually do. Lots of my daily vapes are single flavors( or a one shot) and if I really like them I make big bottles and put it in the fridge. The flavors will keep developing for a while yet and get stronger. Some a lot stronger. Like FW Spearmint. I found this out about the time I was switching mg strength from 6mg to 3mg so it was very convenient for me to half those flavors and be done with it. Tasted just like I just mixed them. Of course then I had twice the amount I had started with, but they are still doing just fine. No flavor loss and I am not jonesing for a smoke so the mg is fine. I don't think they would have held up as well if I had kept them room temp in a cabinet somewhere, just my humble opinion.
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What a good Mom you are!
When my two were born, we had a few meals prepared for us, and their worth was beyond measure. But, we had nothing like the bounty you are preparing... you deserve a golden halo!!
I am willing to bet it is caused by butyric acid. It has some popularity as a DAAP (baddies) replacement. TFA explains it as:I have loads of 'other' flavors I haven't mixed yet.......definitely putting this one at the end of the line.....I know @hittman says it taste fine......but there is just something about that smell......
"Butanoic Acid (butyric acid) -
Sharp, acidic/sour, dairy-like, cheesy, creamy, buttery with a fruity nuance
Butanoic acid is a fatty acid which makes up 3-4% of butter in its triglyceride form. As such, it can be found in milk, especially buffalo, sheep, and goat milk, lending the characteristic tang of each. It is also in kombucha, butter, and cheeses (especially parmesan).
Butanoic acid is not a diketone, and as such is often used as a replacement butter/custard note in flavors which have had diketones removed from their formula. While it is used at low levels to accentuate a butter note, it is not commonly used at concentrations as high as acetoin or acetylpropionyl.
If overdone it can lend a rather unpleasant aftertaste to a flavor, as butanoic acid is also one of the main scent components of vomit. Butanoic acid can also cause sore throat, coughing, and irritation when inhaled, though has not been brought to light as particularly hazardous, unlike diketones."
(source)
Some folks seem to be more sensitive to the smell, and even the taste, of B. A. For many, the aroma settles down with some aging. But others find that it never goes away. Make a small tester, and put it away for at least a month, before you try any test vaping.
Exactly!
I am happy to report that I have six 10mL single flavor testers all mixed, labeled, and put to bed. I have never tried working with any NET before, so I am going to give them 3 days to a week, before even attempting to test-vape them. I still expect them to be quite immature; but I want a starting point benchmark for comparison.
Then you must have not yet tried RF Aged Bourbon Cream!Out of the few RL flavors I have tried(I tried like 7 or 8), the grape is the only one I liked.
What a good Mom you are!
I am willing to bet it is caused by butyric acid. It has some popularity as a DAAP (baddies) replacement. TFA explains it as:
"Butanoic Acid (butyric acid) -
Sharp, acidic/sour, dairy-like, cheesy, creamy, buttery with a fruity nuance
Butanoic acid is a fatty acid which makes up 3-4% of butter in its triglyceride form. As such, it can be found in milk, especially buffalo, sheep, and goat milk, lending the characteristic tang of each. It is also in kombucha, butter, and cheeses (especially parmesan).
Butanoic acid is not a diketone, and as such is often used as a replacement butter/custard note in flavors which have had diketones removed from their formula. While it is used at low levels to accentuate a butter note, it is not commonly used at concentrations as high as acetoin or acetylpropionyl.
If overdone it can lend a rather unpleasant aftertaste to a flavor, as butanoic acid is also one of the main scent components of vomit. Butanoic acid can also cause sore throat, coughing, and irritation when inhaled, though has not been brought to light as particularly hazardous, unlike diketones."
(source)
Some folks seem to be more sensitive to the smell, and even the taste, of B. A. For many, the aroma settles down with some aging. But others find that it never goes away. Make a small tester, and put it away for at least a month, before you try any test vaping.
Exactly!
I am happy to report that I have six 10mL single flavor testers all mixed, labeled, and put to bed. I have never tried working with any NET before, so I am going to give them 3 days to a week, before even attempting to test-vape them. I still expect them to be quite immature; but I want a starting point benchmark for comparison.
Then you must have not yet tried RF Aged Bourbon Cream!
Yes, I totally think you are correct. I have never liked milk, even as a child, and find that offensive also. I can tolerate it when mixed into other ingredients like mashed potatoes. And as strange as it sounds I do eat yogurt(mostly vanilla) but it has to be yoplait and love sour cream and cream cheese. Not sure what even prompted me to buy the bb milkshake, for some reason I guess I just wanted to try it. I should have listened to my instincts and left well enough alone. LOL
"Some folks seem to be more sensitive to the smell, and even the taste, of B. A. For many, the aroma settles down with some aging. But others find that it never goes away. Make a small tester, and put it away for at least a month, before you try any test vaping."
Not gonna happen. LOL
"Then you must have not yet tried RF Aged Bourbon Cream!"
Yes, actually I have......Not a fan.
I am still trying to play catch-up, of all the posts that got past me, by reading backward when time permits. I saw this one, and don't recall anyone responding to your plea.SIL, father of gbaby due in 10 days () loves Fireball whiskey. I want to try and make it in juice. Ordered caramel cinnamon roll And red hots ( both FW). Thinking the caramel will dual role as the brown sugar flavor????? I found a recipe by SmokyBlue, but Id have to order flavors I know I won’t use again if he doesn’t like this.
Need advice. I’ve never tasted Fireball, so I’m trying to replicate an unknown. Help???
Fireball is not in my wheelhouse; but I have tasted it <shudder>. It is a thick, syrup-y, liqueur (I refuse to call it a whiskey), that is popular with the non-whiskey drinking crowd. Imagine taking a pound of cinnamon Red Hot candies, adding just enough water to be able to boil them down to a thick syrup, and then adding just enough cheap generic whisky to get 66 proof (33%) alcohol content. That is Fireball.
I get no other flavor notes... but again I am not a fan. I am also not big on strong cinnamon. So I will gladly bow to other opinions.
To formulate a vape, in my mind, you need three things:
1. A strong "hot" cinnamon note. This should be the core of the recipe. FW Red Hots may be a good candidate for this. I haven't used it; so I can't say. I would imagine either of the TFA Cinnamon Red Hots (original or "PG") would also work.
2. A significant amount of sweet. Use sweetener of your choosing. Be aware of potential muting by higher sweetener levels... may need to adjust other concentrates. This is the middle note of the recipe.
3. Last (and lightest), a light background whiskey note. Don't use any of your spendy whiskey concentrates here; as it is not supposed to be the star/focus. TFA-Kentucky Bourbon would probably be what I would try first. It is both inexpensive, and readily available. You only need enough to "suggest" this might be a whiskey(ish) drink.
4. And maybe, if it still isn't quite "thick" enough (and I would save it as a last ditch effort), I might consider just a touch of meringue, or marshmallow.
I get no other notes of bakery, or brown sugar/molasses, or even vanilla. So, unless your Son-in-law is saying he tastes those (or any other) notes; I would leave them out. I think less is going to be more with this one.
One variation that might be interesting, is the use of a cooling agent, like WS-23 or koolada. The real beverage is most often served well chilled. (Bars, where it is popular, often store it in the freezer. I am guessing; due to the excessively sweet nature of it.) That might add a bit more "authenticity" to the vape. However, this is totally optional.
If, you get something that meets with his approval, I would love to know what it is. I am curious how close/distant I might be.
Another late reply... <sigh>
Scutch (RWhy4 reloaded) is one that has worked for me, as well as a few acquaintances I have mixed for. It is good as a shake-n-vape, and it just gets better with age. It is also very versatile. I have made all sorts of subs, changes, and/or additions, and have never ended up with an unvapable batch. It is a bit sweet for my taste buds these days; but it was a winner in my RY4 days.
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