Oh,he’s adorable
I'm buying just nic salt base, but they sell freebase, flavorings, diy supplies, and regular premade juice. I'm sure after all this banning hoopla started, people were clamoring to buy nic base. I usually buy my flavorings from BCF. Never have bought flavorings from NR, but I know people do and like to go through them.Don’t they just sell flavor concentrates or juice too?
One thing with NR flavorings, they sell 15ml bottles instead of 10ml. Some of it is as cheap or cheaper than 10mls from other places. I'm referring to the main brands like TFA, CAP, etc. I haven't messed with their house line of flavorings.I'm buying just nic salt base, but they sell freebase, flavorings, diy supplies, and regular premade juice. I'm sure after all this banning hoopla started, people were clamoring to buy nic base. I usually buy my flavorings from BCF. Never have bought flavorings from NR, but I know people do and like to go through them.
Yes, NET.com was who I was referring to. I'd heard good things about their extracts, but happened on SM first, tried it, loved it. But here's what I was getting at. I looked at the difference in final juice cost. Maybe instead of focusing on negotiating a deal (I'm not at all convinced that HHV will survive, but they could), just look at the cost per final ml of juice:Clay at NET.com sells extract too. I've entertained that option but I'm not certain what their future will be either. True, their product wont technically have nicotine in it but they very well could be swept up in a vape ban at some point too. I am also holding out some hope that there might be some NET vendors who also offer bulk one shots (especially my own). Again, how viable will this be as a profitable business model to cater one shots to the DIY market?? And will they be subject to FDA regs?? I'm guessing it will be fraught with risk and un-doable for many. I feel a whole lot better making my own because pipe n cigar tobacco is more likely to be available on a long term basis. No guarantees, of course. But it seems the push is mostly targeted at vaping.
I'm still thinking the best outcome is my current NET vendor offering to sell bulk extract at a reasonable cost...at stockpiling rates (I'm assuming they can be frozen for long periods of time). Perhaps even better would be divulging the recipe but not sure I could replicate it. But I do like the attractiveness of vertically integrating to be as independent as I can be to remove as much risk as I can. Making my own NETs goes toward that objective.
I appreciate the heads up with Stixx Mixx. It certainly remains as an option. Funny, I just watched a video today from DYI or Die and he was opening a package from Stixx Mixx. They sent him a box load of their NETs to review. I think it was a little older vid.
Oh, yeah. Clay is way high. If it came down to one last purchase he’d have to come way off his prices. As for freezing extract I need to research it. I know people have frozen blended NETS and they survived at least a year. How well they fare 3, 5, 10 years is another matter.Yes, NET.com was who I was referring to. I'd heard good things about their extracts, but happened on SM first, tried it, loved it. But here's what I was getting at. I looked at the difference in final juice cost. Maybe instead of focusing on negotiating a deal (I'm not at all convinced that HHV will survive, but they could), just look at the cost per final ml of juice:
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Once I realized I really loved SM, I thought "can NET.com really be 25 times better?" And then I realized I didn't want to find out. What I was doing was working, and even though diy is incredibly cheap, why would I look to increase my cost? By that much?
Just a thought. Whatever works for you, but when I ran the numbers, well...my tightwad (and satisfied) self just said...why?
And yes...I'm thinking about extracting my own as well. But I'm not sure I'd freeze an extract. A lot of natural, plant based products undergo significant change when freezing and thawing. I may be wrong. I'll probably get a good qty. of SM to store, and how well it fares will probably determine how long before I begin my own extracts.
One thing with NR flavorings, they sell 15ml bottles instead of 10ml. Some of it is as cheap or cheaper than 10mls from other places. I'm referring to the main brands like TFA, CAP, etc. I haven't messed with their house line of flavorings.
I like having the extra mls but some would prefer less for a sample, I guess. And some of them seem pricier, FlavourArt in particular, but I have not directly compared price per quantity from site to site.
NR also does not have quite as complete a selection as Bull City. Pretty good though. No VTA.
Hi Ange! Long time, no post to each other!I use NicRiver for flavourings - mainly as I'm hooked on some Purilum flavours. They also have cheap international shipping, compared to other places.
Chef's flavours are also a good resource for us international buyers![]()
I like the PUR Raspberry and don’t order from NR much so I got the 30ml size.One thing with NR flavorings, they sell 15ml bottles instead of 10ml. Some of it is as cheap or cheaper than 10mls from other places. I'm referring to the main brands like TFA, CAP, etc. I haven't messed with their house line of flavorings.
I like having the extra mls but some would prefer less for a sample, I guess. And some of them seem pricier, FlavourArt in particular, but I have not directly compared price per quantity from site to site.
NR also does not have quite as complete a selection as Bull City. Pretty good though. No VTA.
That was a good ideaOk, I made it through the last 40+ posts that I missed today. Work was busy and I had to go pick up 22 bags of mulch and spread it after work. I got my new black gen from ejuices today but won’t be able to try it until tomorrow. I’m exhausted and will be heading to bed shortly.
I really don’t think I’m going to even mess with mine.Gonna put them out in garage storage for now. Too small and too fiddley for meI did get my hunter morning mini recoiled and wicked. I put in two 6 wrap 2.5mm kanthal coils that came out to .48. It is really hard to adjust the airflow but I finally got it set.
I very much agree.If I find something that works I’d have no interest in trying a much more costly productYes, NET.com was who I was referring to. I'd heard good things about their extracts, but happened on SM first, tried it, loved it. But here's what I was getting at. I looked at the difference in final juice cost. Maybe instead of focusing on negotiating a deal (I'm not at all convinced that HHV will survive, but they could), just look at the cost per final ml of juice:
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Once I realized I really loved SM, I thought "can NET.com really be 25 times better?" And then I realized I didn't want to find out. What I was doing was working, and even though diy is incredibly cheap, why would I look to increase my cost? By that much?
Just a thought. Whatever works for you, but when I ran the numbers, well...my tightwad (and satisfied) self just said...why?
And yes...I'm thinking about extracting my own as well. But I'm not sure I'd freeze an extract. A lot of natural, plant based products undergo significant change when freezing and thawing. I may be wrong. I'll probably get a good qty. of SM to store, and how well it fares will probably determine how long before I begin my own extracts.
Ange,we need a pick of your adorable wool babyI use NicRiver for flavourings - mainly as I'm hooked on some Purilum flavours. They also have cheap international shipping, compared to other places.
Chef's flavours are also a good resource for us international buyers![]()
I really like NR raspberry. I may have to try the NR Boysenberry you like so muchI use NicRiver for flavourings - mainly as I'm hooked on some Purilum flavours. They also have cheap international shipping, compared to other places.
Chef's flavours are also a good resource for us international buyers![]()
I really don’t think I’m going to even mess with mine.Gonna put them out in garage storage for now. Too small and too fiddley for me
I piffed one. Have 4 more and think I'll do the sameThey are going to take a little getting used to. I dripped too much the first time out and had liquid leaking out the airflow holes. I figure I should give it some effort since I bought seven of them. It was only $9 shipped but don’t want to put them in storage if they aren’t going to be something I’ll use.