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FranC

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    I got in a short workout tonight and took a break from review writing for tonight. The humidity has been high and the arthritis in my legs has been causing some pain.

    I might even take a few minutes and look through some screenshots I took of recipes.
    We are finally going to cool down or at least I really hope so.
     

    Zazie

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    Actually, not sure why you think it is strange - "Madagascar" comes from Mexico and is one of the best most expensive vanillas out there . . . Just Sayin' . . . :rolleyes:


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    But Mexican vanilla is not called Madagascar vanilla, though both Madagascar/Bourbon and Mexican vanilla come from the same plant (Tahitian vanilla is from a different species).

    I also think it strange that FlavourArt has a Bourbon and a Madagascar vanilla, since they are the same in matters culinary.
     

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    From flavor notes I've read... using JF Yellow Cake at 1% in a mix is perfect. Going higher in Fran's Coffee Cake would likely exceed, or upset, the balance between flavors that Fran was/is aiming for.

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    WF Hazelnut & Cream 2%
    FLV Pound Cake 1%
    FW White Cake 3%
    FA Cappuccino 1%
    WF Chocolate Chunks 1%

    As I read the recipe ^^^ FLV Pound Cake is being used as a background, or supporting, flavor to FW White Cake. FLV Pound Cake is not meant to be the main cake flavor. Going higher than 1% with JF Yellow Cake will only introduce more yellow cake flavor (not desired, or intended). @FranC is that fairly accurate??? Or am I totally full of flavor poop??? :D

    JF Yellow Cake suggested usage: As an accent 0.25%-0.75%; Background 0.75%-1.5%; Main 1.5%-3%. If you wanted this stand-alone, I’d suggest 3%+.

    Many consider JF YK a 1:1, but superior to, FW Yellow Cake (fructose). JF YK has no fructose.

    ETA: By all means, if creating ones "own" recipe then go higher if desired. ;)
     
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    vaper1960

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    From flavor notes I've read... using JF Yellow Cake at 1% in a mix is perfect. Going higher in Fran's Coffee Cake would likely exceed, or upset, the balance between flavors that Fran was/is aiming for.
    Woops... didn't realize there was also white cake (now I get it)
     

    vaper1960

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    BTW... now that I quit the smokes my sense of taste and smell are coming back (no wonder I felt the JF yellow cake was weak) Also, I mixed it with SSA raspberry syrup (and bavarian cream)... the raspberry was very forward so I bumped the cake. I should try it again (it hadn't steeped very long) It's all good (putting on my dunce hat and going to sit in the corner)
     

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    If I was going to make a cake recipe using JF Yellow Cake, TFA/TPA Bavarian Cream and SSA Raspberry Syrup... my first go would look something like this.

    JF Yellow Cake 2%
    TFA/TPA Bavarian Cream 1%
    SSA Raspberry Syrup 0.5%

    Steep 3-4 weeks minimum / test / make adjustments as needed then. The YC and BC require a longer steep.

    If it was me, I would start it off as written. More can be added later if needed and I would only bump in 0.25-0.5% increments. IMO SSA RS is a stronger dark berry / it is not at all like a light berry (strawberry).

    It's much easier to add a little more of a flavor to a mix versus trying to fix one once too much flavor was used.

    From scratch recipes do require time and patience to develop into decent vapes. There is no getting around that and there are no shortcuts.


    IMO, using those flavors with those percents, it would be very easy to taste, or pick out, the forward, mid and background notes. It's only a simple 3 flavor mix.


    ETA: Recipe updated, different BC, see next page.
     
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    If I was going to make a cake recipe using JF Yellow Cake, TFA/TPA Bavarian Cream and SSA Raspberry Syrup... my first go would look something like this.

    JF Yellow Cake 2%
    TFA/TPA Bavarian Cream 1%
    SSA Raspberry Syrup 0.5%

    Steep 3-4 weeks minimum / test / make adjustments as needed then. The YC and BC require a longer steep.

    If it was me, I would start it off as written. More can be added later if needed and I would only bump in 0.25-0.5% increments. IMO SSA RS is a stronger dark berry / it is not at all like a light berry (strawberry).

    It's much easier to add a little more of a flavor to a mix versus trying to fix one once too much flavor was used.

    From scratch recipes do require time and patience to develop into decent vapes. There is no getting around that and there are no shortcuts.


    IMO, using those flavors with those percents, it would be very easy to taste, or pick out, the forward, mid and background notes. It's only a simple 3 flavor mix.
    Hey SMT, is TFA Bavarian Cream your favorite of the Bavarian creams out there?
     

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    Hey SMT, is TFA Bavarian Cream your favorite of the Bavarian creams out there?
    Yes. But I also like FA Bavarian Cream (Crema Bavarese) a lot. LA Bavarian Cream and FW Bavarian Cream are pretty darn good too. They're all different tasting to me.

    I got WF Bavarian Cream in my last BCF order but haven't tried it yet.
     

    Redbird11

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    Yes. But I also really like FA Bavarian Cream (Crema Bavarese) a lot. LA Bavarian Cream and FW Bavarian Cream are pretty darn good too. They're all different tasting to me.

    I got WF Bavarian Cream in my last BCF order but haven't tried it yet.
    I just got the WF one too, but haven't used it.
     

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    I used WF bavarian cream (it's the only one I've tried so nothing to compare it to) I mixed the raspberry too high for sure (and the yellow cake) It was my first cake recipe and my first raspberry. Most of my mixes are for MTL... should I mix weaker for RDL?
     

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    I would start WF Bavarian Cream at 1% in the recipe I posted on the last page.

    I vape MTL/RDL/DL and would still use the same %'s suggested as my starting point.

    Personally speaking, I don't think it's necessary to mix stronger or weaker for MTL, RDL or DL. If your mix is well balanced with the %'s it will taste good any style.

    Some folks do feel they need to mix stronger for MTL and weaker for RDL/DL. But there are also folks who mix using low %'s no matter what their style is.

    ETA: And there are folks who post here who feel they need to use high %'s no matter what their style of vaping is. All kinds, we have all kinds. None is right and none is wrong. Whatever works for each = best route. Simple.

    ETA2: Updated recipe... different BC. Lolz

    JF Yellow Cake 2%
    WF Bavarian Cream 1%
    SSA Raspberry Syrup 0.5%
     
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