Raptor Flip-Top VV Mod with 20A, 120W dc/dc converter...

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Hey guys and gals, I've been reading and watching tons of information over the last few weeks and am finally starting to at least somewhat grasp this build and want to build one for myself. I would like to use the original post's diagram and parts but had a few questions I'm sure someone can answer. First off the part number for the fuses is for 2x 9 amp fuses but the diagram says 10 amp on the fuses, whats the part number for the 10 amp fuses shown on the diagram, or can the full range of the raptor be used with the 9 amp fuses listed? Second there is no P-FET part number listed so is this one ok to use (mouser # 726-IPD042P03L3G) if not can you recommend one thats compatible for this build? And finally the parts list shows a 7.5K ohm resistor but the diagram says 4.7k so is this the proper part number for the resistor shown in the diagram (mouser # 271-4.7K-RC) Thanks in advance for any help!!!

The forum post is too old to allow the original author (Mamu) to edit the text of the original post, however the schematics shown on the original post is hosted on Mamu's own web server so she can update that as needed. (meaning: Go with parts shown on the image, not with parts listed in text)
 

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The switch you use is mostly ascetic. Pretty much any momentary normally open switch will work as it doesn't need to carry the load current. If you like the way it looks and it fits you're good.


I chose the higher to not drain my batteries as much. I do have to change them more often than necessary but I'm ok with that. I'd probably go with a lower cutoff if I make another. Really preference here also.


If you want. They are physically bigger and have an unnecessarily high current hold capability.


I don't see why those wouldn't work. I liked the leaded and dipped capacitors for convenience. These are similar to the original capacitors listed by Mamu C3225X5R1C226K250AA except a bit smaller. Curves are a little different but I'm not sure if that matters. I'd probably stick to Mamus suggested caps if you want to go with this style.


A master switch could be nice to disable the fire button for pocket carry. I skipped it as this is planned to be a home box. I didn't list the switch or meter I used. This is the switch 642-MHS223 and I used a 0.28" voltmeter I got off eBay.


If you are adding the reverse polarity indicator, which I also skipped, then you need a second resistor and a LED for that. I figured that with the polarity protection it just wouldn't work and I'd have to look to see if I put them in wrong. Plus i was lazy and didn't have a LED.

Hope this helps.

Hey jeepster with the zener you chose what voltage are your batteries generally at when you have to recgarge them? Thanks

@texanator K thank you, got it now
 

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excellent thats the one I will use then, and thanks a lot for the mouser list. With the op not being able to edit her part list it really helped me get started with a current list. I'm gonna go with the no idle circuit I believe, got the nfet and 47k res, I understand it for the most part following this diagram by mamu but just wanted to get clarification on 2 things. Does the 47k connect G and S on the nfet? Also does the zener leg connect to both 5 and 6 like shown in the picture below? Thanks


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Yup, 5 to 6 with the band towards 6.
On a side note both my raptors died and I don't know how. One worked for a couple weeks the other a couple days. No idea how I killed them.
Oh ya, and g to s on the nfet

Hmm thats actually concerning me a bit because I was planning on building the nfet build with many of your recommended parts. If you figure out what happened I'd be really interested in knowing.

My soldering iron is over 20 years old and was the cheapo even back then so I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good one for this build, or at least some stats I should look for in one, power/temp, tip ect. Whats the best solder to use as well? Thanks everyone!!!!
 

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As far as the soldering iron, just something small, like 15-20 watts with a fairly fine point. The one I got was a Weller 20w and it worked great.
The parts I used were all suggested by others except for the resistors which I came up with myself and the switch I just through on there to have one in the list. the Zener was, I think, suggested by someone also. Nfet and Pfet are straight from diagram. Fuses are from the old diagram without the no idle drain circuit.
Overall it looks like I probably messed something up, twice, in my building as no one else seems to be having the same problems as I am.
 

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Hmm thats actually concerning me a bit because I was planning on building the nfet build with many of your recommended parts. If you figure out what happened I'd be really interested in knowing.

My soldering iron is over 20 years old and was the cheapo even back then so I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good one for this build, or at least some stats I should look for in one, power/temp, tip ect. Whats the best solder to use as well? Thanks everyone!!!!

This is equivalent to a 80 dollar soldering station it is the clone. It is not as good as the name brand out the box but reviews say just calibrate it and its awesome. Everybody in r/c loves the thing.. For our use it will never need calibrating..

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Fasttech just loaded an iron yesterday and it would be fine for doing a few mods..

But ya cannot beat the price of that station its really decent for the coin..


$5.90 GY-113A 40W Soldering Iron for Electronics DIY - US plug / 6A/250V at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
 

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Ok great and whats the best type of solder for this type of application, I have some old "60/40 clear flux .062" and 60/40 rosin core solder .032" are either of those good or is there something better I can pick up for this build? Thanks so much!!!

60/40 Rosin .032 would be my choice.
 

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So the original guide here said to use 20 awg for load carrying and 22 for signal. I bought 18 awg and planned on using it for everything right but I'm now im reading that 18awg cant handle the amps of raptor at or near max. Could someone explain why these tables show 16amps free air and 10 amps enclosed for 18awg wire? Not trying to imply that I have any clue as to what either of those mean. Guess thats just a really long way of asking if 18awg is safe to use for raptor lol, thanks
 

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I used 20awg for input and output with my first few builds. These mods were for me and I don't vape anywhere near 20A mostly around 5A lol.

I currently use 18awg for input and output with all my builds though as some of my mods are going to people who vape at high amps and use 24awg, sometimes 22awg depends on what I have on hand, for all other wiring.

I've had no issues with 18awg getting hot or causing a problem with voltage drop under load when running high amps. That would be the key factor - the wire getting hot and causing increased resistance under load - if 18awg is safe or not.

...im reading that 18awg cant handle the amps of raptor at or near max...

Do you have a link and real world testing for this?
 

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Yeah you know I figured there was something I wasnt quite understanding but just wanted to run it by you guys. I bought this switch for my volt meter MHS223 Apem | Mouser and it has 6 pins, any advice on how to wire it? Do I just use one side of 3 and use it like the 3 pin switch on diagram. Its a dpdt on off on switch Thanks
 
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