Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!

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JeremyR

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They have since retracted 'Melts' and are saying 'decomposes'...



I think that they read 'decomposes' to mean it dissolves, waiting on a response... but I think most people will be able to read the truth from the BS. I sure hope someone doesn't interpret what was written to suggest that it creates 'High levels of Formaldehyde'.

It easily can be.. Make an article about one subject then oddly interject a completely irrelevant shot.. To the reader it can imply on the subject of the article... Most people scan read quickly..

I Don't think he intended that though... He's been a pretty cool guy over the years, but hangs with the tmc clan that tends to hate.
 
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Here's my response that I have ready..



Crxess I'd like to make sense of what happened here. I have been using rayon since 2013 and never experienced any disappearing wick, or docomposition.

Please think about this for a second..

Leaves and thin wood curls and shows a movement when burned as well as does paper if its cut into a similar shape.. Some of what you see contracting is due to the crimp in the fiber. Its not a straight fiber. Eeither way it makes no implication of it being unsafe.

What you describe crxess would only occur only if the wick chamber actually dried out and the wick completely dried and then the coil glowed lighting the remaining juice on fire and burned up the wick.

Rayon is a fairly light substance free of non-cellulose contaminates, like protiens in cotton, so the ash of rayon is very light and airy. One of its noticeable properties in a burn test is that its ash will wisp away in the air its so light. It probably will not even be noticeable when wet in eliquid as the ash will reabsorb liquid.

What i think happened; you did have combustion... it fired till completely dry, the tank did not/was not feedibg liquid at this time. After the rayon dried out completely - it burned to its natural, very light weight, light colored ash.. After it burned and the outward pressure of the heat/flame was completed; then a flood of liquid probably ran into the chamber as the pressure changed dramatically. Causing the flood.

"No ignition, No Dried out chamber, NO wicks in sight - at all. i.e. (edited - Decomposed) - Below Flash point. <*no soot in chamber or on base*>"

You mentioned how very hot it was. It was not in your hands while it was firing, so you don't know if the chamber was dry or not.. I assume-
You did have Ignition.
Your chamber was dry, when you weren't looking; and above the flash point.
There was no soot because... The rayon really is that much more pure than cotton. It is not sooty. Its a very clean burn, just from the lack of protein contaminates alone.

Obviously no one would be vaping it anywhere close to that point. In normal use the coil will dry burn first and you will stop vaping it...

It could also happen with a loose wick when fired enough to glow the coil the juice itself will ignite.

My last rayon wick and coil went 180ml with no wick change and no dryburning to clean coil. Just vaping. And no coil gunk. 180ml at 6v and the wick was still good.

So while you did burn it away, it wasn't in a normal vaping condition. Since rayon will run its entire self dry to the coil, it is different than cotton which holds liquid in its fiber like a sponge. Starving the coils and only burning away in the coil when the coil glows... Your tails are still wet, showing the weaker wick to coil of cotton.

So that's very likely what happened, no need to really spread misinformation around the forum about it melting..
 
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I would cut the last sentence and put something like:

Don't take this personally but just as you've been spoon fed with false and damaging information, your post might derail the more distracted reader into thinking that rayon is evil which just prolongs the chain of misunderstanding and misconception the general public has over the use of rayon as a wicking medium.




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Tony

ps: edit at will as I'm not a native English speaker

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tchavei

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Jeremy.....some folks will just never "Get It".
Yeah... Just look at the provariati thread :facepalm:




LOLOLLL :D :D

Sorry to provari owners and lovers but I couldn't help myself :D (maybe if I had a provibrator, I could... Hum, that's an interesting idea!) ok! I'll shut up now! :D

Regards
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60ml through this one before sending my dna 40 back:

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Just checking out the thread and have to say, I have used Rayon and/or cotton for awhile and have even made some Raton, a combo of rayon and cotton. hate those little wasted pieces and have enjoyed my vaping much more than ever before. Have gone through most of the different wicking and love my Rayon. Yes I still have cotton left over from before i found Rayon, so I do use both. Hate to waste stuff as well. Some people just have favs and no matter what others say, they stay true to what they want to...

also, I have never laughs so hard or gotten in a state of, well, excitement over posts.
Thanks mudram99 for the pix of your new girlfriend and all the responses....

Ok, this may seem all over the place but then I am older, suffer from oldtimers and darn, forgot the subject, sheesh....

Thanks all for an interesting thread.....
 
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