Russian 91% v2 irratic resistance readings

[carrielsal]

I have two v1's with the upgraded steel, but without the spring loaded pin. I didn't mean to hijack your thread, but I can attest to KEBO's wonky tolerances with my v1's.

NP. Are you sure your center screw is tight? I ran into the same issue with intermittent shorts when I bought my first R91. I couldn't seem to get the center screw tight enough that the positive post wouldn't move when I tightened the screw on the positive block. What finally worked for me was holding the the positive block to the negative block with a pair of needle nose pliers so it wouldn't move, then tighten the center pin.

 

[MikeE3]

I think that's the kayfun pin that doesn't have the 2 part screw like the R91v1. This is the kit we ordered that didn't work, Fatdaddyvapes Tobeco Kayfun Lite Plus Complete Overhaul Rebuild Kit | eBay.

Would this kit work on the v1? Maybe that'll stop my leaking issues, as my clones don't leak like my 91's.

Caution: First, I don't know if that kit would work for you R91. BUT .... a number of people who have bought that kit report that the little screw does not 'screw into' the long 510 pin properly. The threads are 'bad' and the little screw just pushes into to long post and can't be used as designed.

 

[carrielsal]

Caution: First, I don't know if that kit would work for you R91. BUT .... a number of people who have bought that kit report that the little screw does not 'screw into' the long 510 pin properly. The threads are 'bad' and the little screw just pushes into to long post and can't be used as designed.

Mike, have you heard anything more from FDV?

 

[MikeE3]

Mike, have you heard anything more from FDV?

Nope - haven't heard anything about the kits w/ the flakey screw or the new kit he said was coming.

 

[HazMatt]

Mt Baker Vapor just shipped my V1 pin I'm so ready to experience a properly working R91.

 

[ShariR]

My Russian is not behaving at all. Ohms all over the place on my Provari. I have been having trouble being able to vape it at all. Looks like it may be going in a box until a solution is found. How sad.

Ok. Moving on. What do you suggest I get to replace the V2 R91? I can not spring (ha ha, not) for a real one or Svoesmestro Kayfun right now. Best clone is which one and where can I get the thing? Best Fasttech one and best stateside one if anyone knows.

 

[carrielsal]

My Russian is not behaving at all. Ohms all over the place on my Provari. I have been having trouble being able to vape it at all. Looks like it may be going in a box until a solution is found. How sad.

Ok. Moving on. What do you suggest I get to replace the V2 R91? I can not spring (ha ha, not) for a real one or Svoesmestro Kayfun right now. Best clone is which one and where can I get the thing? Best Fasttech one and best stateside one if anyone knows.

ShariR, you can buy the authentic v1 screws to fix the problem. We are just looking for a cheaper alternative. Here's the 2 places I know that carry the v1 screws.

The Russian 91% Replacement Parts - EVcigarettes.com It's number 18 and 19, but it looks like they don't have screw #18 in stock.
Russian 91% Spare Parts. Part numbers 18 and 19.

 

[carrielsal]

Shouldn't take too long to pack up some V1 center screws and overnight them to vendors. Kebo is somewhat vague on the timing though.

Kebo lies. They are not sending the v1 screws to all the vendors. Some of us have literally been screwed.

 

[carrielsal]

I contacted Vapor DNA about this yesterday. They responded promptly and have already sent a V1 pin to replace the defective one in the V2. They have been in touch with Kebo and expect new v2 pins but they didn't mention when they would get them. Excellent vendor with spot on customer service. I will be using them as often as possible.

This is interesting. I emailed vapordna yesterday to ask if they had the v1 pins and this was their response:


Dear Carrie,

We are still waiting for our shipment of replacement center pins to arrive. We may have the option to let customers purchase the center pins if they do not have a defective one, but we will not know until we receive the shipment.

Sincerely,

VaporDNA Customer Service Team

 

[ShariR]

ShariR, you can buy the authentic v1 screws to fix the problem. We are just looking for a cheaper alternative. Here's the 2 places I know that carry the v1 screws.

The Russian 91% Replacement Parts - EVcigarettes.com It's number 18 and 19, but it looks like they don't have screw #18 in stock.
Russian 91% Spare Parts. Part numbers 18 and 19.

Thanks Carrie. I saw that and think the price is outrageous. I will do that if it is the only option open to me later. How do I know that they will fit right. Can not believe any of the suppliers right now. FatDaddys did not fit. I do not have the technical ability to fiddle with this. I have not clue how to get center post out and I am afraid to try at this point. No, it is going back in the box for a while.

Thank you again for keeping this thread up and going. Where are all the other people who have this bad r91?

 

[carrielsal]

The screws from Fat Daddy Vapors are not authentic parts. I noticed a few minutes ago that Black Russian 91% RBA | Russian 91% | Russian Parts now also have parts listed. East Coast Vapes seems to have the cheapest price. If you go that route, I would verify with them first that the parts are authentic R91 parts and ask them for a guarantee that they will work.

I am betting there are a lot of people out there with v2's who haven't realized they have a problem. I built my v2 with a 1.7 ohm microcoil, and I've been using it on my Sigelei ZMAX. It seems to be vaping just fine. If I wasn't .... retentive for monitoring the resistance on a new build I may not have realized right away that there was a problem. Also, when I first started posting about the issue I got a lot of feedback in other threads that I just must not have my center screw tight or I didn't know how to build a coil

 

[ShariR]

I have a 1.4ohm build on mine. It reads steady on the little black box ohm meter and for the first week on my Provari Mini. It jumped all over the place on my MVP2 from the beginning. The last several days it has been jumping around on my Provari. The vape has degraded. I changed out the cotton a few times and changed juices a few times hoping it was just wicking issues. Nope. And it is not the juice because it tastes fine when I drip into my 510 attys. So I am mad at my Russian. I will try to build a new coil tomorrow.

I just realized it is now my birthday, and I do not have my wonderful great vape today. Oh well. Maybe a new coil will buy me another few days but I am not confident in that.

That Black Russian would look killer on my satin black Provari Mini. They crossed off the spring loaded center pin on the Black one and inserted that they are shipping with the v1 center pin. But I looked at the description of the regular Russian 91%v2. They are still selling the one with the spring loaded center pin. Insert swear word here.

 

[petemoss]

Bingo. I'm not pleased with my two version 1.5 russians due to the tolerances. One is a much tighter fit between the center screw and the 510 screw, the other; not so much. The one with looser tolerances sometimes causes a hard short due to the loose 510 screw. Not to mention, regardless of how I do my builds I always seem to get e juice leaking from around the 510. If the center post insulator was just a tad bit tighter around the center post, perhaps I wouldn't have this problem.

I'm kind of fed up with the Russian 91 from KEBO.

Try adding a tiny o-ring to the screw. The tiny screwdriver that came with the R91 has two o-rings that will fit. Also a small strip of teflon tape or dental floss just under the head of the screw would work.

 

[petemoss]

I have a 1.4ohm build on mine. It reads steady on the little black box ohm meter and for the first week on my Provari Mini. It jumped all over the place on my MVP2 from the beginning. The last several days it has been jumping around on my Provari. The vape has degraded. I changed out the cotton a few times and changed juices a few times hoping it was just wicking issues. Nope. And it is not the juice because it tastes fine when I drip into my 510 attys. So I am mad at my Russian. I will try to build a new coil tomorrow.

I just realized it is now my birthday, and I do not have my wonderful great vape today. Oh well. Maybe a new coil will buy me another few days but I am not confident in that.

That Black Russian would look killer on my satin black Provari Mini. They crossed off the spring loaded center pin on the Black one and inserted that they are shipping with the v1 center pin. But I looked at the description of the regular Russian 91%v2. They are still selling the one with the spring loaded center pin. Insert swear word here.

Happy birthday, Sheri! Sorry to hear of your problems with your R91. Have you tried to contact the vendor about your irratic resistance readings with the new v2 pin? Several vendors have the replacement pins, but you need to inform them of your problem; they won't send replacement pins unless you complain or ask for a refund. Changing pins is not hard at all. If you can build a coil, changing center pins should be easy.

 

[duroSIG556R]

I'm wondering if you can just use the fat daddy vape one pin design and forget about the 510 adjustable screw on the v1? I'll have to take one of my clones apart and see if it works.

 

[HazMatt]

Kebotech took down my FB post and took away my ability to post or like

Kebotech, You can't handle the truth!

My posts were also deleted and I was also apparently blocked by them. I was not rude, I did not use expletives, even though I wanted to.
I asked if they were sending the V1 pins for free or if "suppliers" had to place a new order to receive the replacement V1 pins.
Kebotech answered, they wanted supliers to purchase something so that the pins would not be "missed". That is not exactly what they said but, that is what I gathered from the broken English reply. To that I replied,
If you are sending each supplier multiple pins, I doubt they would be easily missed. You sold a defective product, you know the V1 pin will fix the problem. You should ship the V1 pins to suppliers for free. It may cost you a little money. But, it would keep your customers happy. And, it is good business ethics.

I guess that was too much for them to handle.

 

[horton]

So is Kebo officially in the doghouse? I'm really disappointed reading through this thread and now wondering if I'll go for the black or gold versions coming out. I do not understand why they can't simply buy a quantity of the V1 center pin screws and ship to vendors to make customers happy. They sure seem to be losing the goodwill game, but I'll bet they really don't care. They probably figure customers will come back for more at some point and it's not worth the expenditure for the screws. Hope I'm wrong.

 

[jackmormon]

Rumor has it that Kebo's single salesperson is extremely difficult to deal with. Treats customers like it is their "privilege" to purchase from Kebo instead of the other way around.

I am not a happy camper -- I have two completely useless / non functional V2 units and zero recourse for getting the V1 pins that would make the units work. As of now, they are in the spare parts bin. I love my R91 V1 but will not be purchasing any other Kebo products.

 

[MikeE3]

I have a book mark to my post asking when, who, where, how to get replacement parts - it's not been answered. I can only find it from my book mark. It doesn't show up anywhere I can find it on their main page. Maybe the can filter it to not display.

 

[kas122461]

Does any one Know if the Kayfun positive pins will thread in to these?

KAS