Sarcasm : Vaping gives you pneumonia and brain damage

[annyway]

Well, I don't need to understand everything Millenials do. Never felt the urge to get a fidged spinner - or a vape spinner

Uhm, the federal election. I am horrified how many people (almost 6 million!) voted for AfD. In my Eyes they are plain Nazis even though they don't say so.

Not sure if beeing more sensitive is a bad thing per se. On one hand it sure sucks that whatever you say/post you can easily offend someone. On the other hand is it time for change in many situations.

Back to topic: Since I started vaping I lost about 7 kg. I didn't weight too much and I sure shouldn't loose anymore weight. Two friends of mine (girls) wouldn't stop talking about how unhealthy it is to vape. They totally ignored that I started running again and that I snack much less since I can just vape for my sweet fix. They eventually shut up about it because I didn't loose anymore weight since 5 month. Still vaping

 

[B Chon]

LOL, I agree on the millennials and it will be interesting to see what they make of society, for sure.

Anna, was that the election with the daughter of that crazy ........ chick, who came close to winning? (You can thank John Oliver for that one). Yes, I completely agree with you.

What horrifies me now about society generally, is that there is so much "information" out there and verification becomes so problematic. I mean, of course people want their views supported with "facts" even made up facts, I think we all have that tendency. What DOES bother me is the lack of reasoned discourse that used to take place, that no longer takes place. I think with the flood of "information" it can be so hard to keep up, that an &%^&* Twitter.

Well, I remember college fondly. Most of my guy friends made up a lot of the Conservative Movement in my very liberal arts college, and we got along famously by respecting each other's beliefs, and learning from them, most likely, as well, and our LBGT movement was a dedicated dorm that was a lot of fun. You could go hang out and have a good time without fear of using the wrong terminology on a person, and they'd gently correct you, not pitch a fit on national television for days.... Twice a year they'd have an event where they would chalk up the campus with positive gay and etc. messages and hand out chalk so that folks could add to them, with a party at the end of the day.

That does so much more for bigotry generally than just being shrill, hateful, and violent. I have gotten so that I really don't want a "transitioning" pal, not due to the TRANSITION, but because I have to walk on eggshells around them and their friends, and it's not enjoyable. I really also get the impression that many of them don't "want" friends that are of hetronormic gender (I refuse to use the word they created for my gender, sorry, I just can't.)

Somewhere along the way, we lost sight of the fact that we can have fun, the wrong word is NOT always deliberate hate speech, and that being fun, kind, and an excellent role model does a heck of a lot more to change a person's mind than what is being enacted today, and I have to say, I miss those days, because things did seem a lot simpler in many ways, and I saw less racial and other "-ism" separation than I do now.

Heck, I think a lot of white folks are afraid to use the term black, even to just describe a person. I am not, but I grew up around and worked with a lot of black folk and one of my dearest long term black pals informed me I was "officially inducted into being black," which I took as a great compliment. I do share some attributes with your stereotypical black woman, actually, and acknowledging a legit stereotype isn't racist, despite what many generations actually believe...

This is why I just try to keep using my vape and being positive if I run into someone hateful. There is no point my being hateful (though I get tempted) and the best thing I can possibly do is be informative and gentle in my presentation of the information, and walk away. Sigh.

Sorry to be off topic, but I think it does all relate to vaping. I mean, I'm not thrilled about the low nic cigarettes either, I think that's a horrible thing to do to an elderly smoker or just a smoker, period. Education does always seem to work better than trying to shove society in whatever political direction, and heat not burn products are NOT going to be for everyone. The way things are shaping up now, I'm quite certain many people will lose.

Anna

Anna

It's so strange reading this as I'm 19 and it's hard to imagine a world not polarized by isms and these barriers and walls we put up between each other. I hope this is a passing thing, and that we as a society can progress into a more open minded train of thought, cause this .... ain't working.

As for vaping, both of my parents are adamantly against smoking and see vaping as the same despite the studies I've shown them. They at least acknowledge that it's better than smoking, which I used to so I guess that's a small win.

 

[Letitia]

The Doctor I encountered was in his 50s. Not to knock on older people, but a lot of them are "set in their ways". I know for myself, it is getting tougher and tougher to accept some of the newer things the millennials are doing these days.

Back up pup, I'm 54. lol

 

[Walee]

One old dude (almost as old as myself) came into the store and told me "them there is bad fo ya! They's wurst than smokin!" I told him "I know. Too late. After one week of vaping my balls fell off." He went away.

 

[MrStik]

Back up pup, I'm 54. lol

I am seeing more and more mature adults vaping. I was vaping with an older woman near my work. She had a Therion DNA mod and an Ammit 25 RTA. She shocked me when she says she drips and loves to blow huge clouds, but not at work. That was the most awesome thing ever..

 

[Izan]

It's so strange reading this as I'm 19 and it's hard to imagine a world not polarized by isms and these barriers and walls we put up between each other. I hope this is a passing thing, and that we as a society can progress into a more open minded train of thought, cause this .... ain't working.
....

If only it wasn't by design.

Divide AND conquer.
It works best when the people do it to themselves.

Study history. (granted it is all the victor's lies) , but if you read and study...the patterns begin to emerge.

Cheers
I

 

[MrStik]

If only it wasn't by design.

Divide AND conquer.
It works best when the people do it to themselves.

Study history. (granted it is all the victor's lies) , but if you read and study...the patterns begin to emerge.

Cheers
I

Have you seen the documentary series of the untold history of the united states by oliver stone? It is a really good look at an alternative of the stuff we are taught here in schools.. The truth is, the US has always been a violent warmongering nation that needs some sort of war to succeed..

 

[stols001]

The only way to study history is to go look at original texts, I had a fun time doing that with Plato and Socrates while writing one of my dissertations in college, only the amount of stuff I had to photocopy, and the wait times....

I left and was promptly mugged by a dude who wanted my backpack. It was stuffed full of Xeroxes from the Library of Congress, and it had taken SO Long I told him, "You can have everything else, I don't care, but you aren't getting this wad of paper, that I am removing right now."

He seemed surprised, but willing to go along with not shooting me over it, though I was sort of willing to get shot over it.... The LoC is a pretty freaking neat place though, I miss having access to it. Somehow, I imagine the U of Arizona library is not quite the same.

I did force the kid to learn about reputable sources and also obtained some older textbooks that I'd make him compare to his "current" ones, which were horrifying in many ways, they're just inaccurate. Poor kid/lucky kid at least he can think for himself and see that how we document our past is now even political....

Poor kid is soooo libertarian, I view this as a success, but his youthful frustration is High.

Anna

Swear it, I'm done with this thread, not even gonna read any more....

 

[CMD-Ky]

Have you seen the documentary series of the untold history of the united states by oliver stone? It is a really good look at an alternative of the stuff we are taught here in schools.. The truth is, the US has always been a violent warmongering nation that needs some sort of war to succeed..

Oliver Stone movies are where Diogenes and I go when ever we are seeking truth.

 

[CMD-Ky]

...
Anna

Swear it, I'm done with this thread, not even gonna read any more....

Yea, sure Anna.

 

[halbgott]

I was just reading up on chantix after your post. To me it looks like a failed psychiatric medication and to make up for development cost they released it for smoking cessation. If so, the company was aware of side effects they didn't warn of at the origional release which is pretty ....ty when you consider the amount of undiagnosed people with mental illness. Even more worrying is that the long term effects of these pills is not available. That doctor could have chewed on that but some already have their mind made up.

Anyhow I'm a little surprised (and not) that open minded doctors haven't started pushing for a combination of the patch with a zero nicotine vaporizer. What always made me not quit was that throat feeling.

 

[classwife]

Oy !!

Well, here is another lovely thread title for googlers !
Problem is, people don't go in to read...they see the titles and say "See - I told you so !"


So...I edited the thread title and added "Sarcasm"

Please have a care - thankyoumuches !

 

[Letitia]

One old dude (almost as old as myself) came into the store and told me "them there is bad fo ya! They's wurst than smokin!" I told him "I know. Too late. After one week of vaping my balls fell off." He went away.

LMAO Thank you so much for breaking up the day.

 

[ScottP]

I have had people tell me things like "You don't know what all chemicals are in that juice" or "that there are so many chemicals in it", etc. To all of them I reply, "I make it myself so I know EXACTLY what is in it." Which is 100% truth.

Not sure if beeing more sensitive is a bad thing per se. On one hand it sure sucks that whatever you say/post you can easily offend someone. On the other hand is it time for change in many situations.

It is a bad thing, 100% it is. We have the right to freedom of speech. We do NOT have the right to never have to hear something we don't like or agree with. The two are mutually exclusive. Getting butthurt over every little thing anyone else says or does that you don't agree with is trying to stifle the former in favor of the latter.

Personally I feel that if a person is so weak minded and thin skinned that they will allow others to control their emotions with mere words, a t-shirt, or flag, then that person DESERVES to be offended. I try to keep my opinions toned down here due to the aggressiveness of the moderators, but everywhere else I will tell people that "if anything I say offends you, then blame your parents for raising a py."

 

[annyway]

Well, the things I had in mind when I said beeing more sensitive is not a bad thing per se were racism, sexism etc. Yes to freedom of speech but if someone tries to defend plain wrong statements with freedom of speech or 'boys will be boys' or whatever, that has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
So no, imho beeing more sensitive is not 100% a bad thing. It has nothing to do with controlling emotions if you say hateful things and others are hurt and no, you can't blame someones parents if you are beeing an a*****e.

 

[ScottP]

Well, the things I had in mind when I said beeing more sensitive is not a bad thing per se were racism, sexism etc. Yes to freedom of speech but if someone tries to defend plain wrong statements with freedom of speech or 'boys will be boys' or whatever, that has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
So no, imho beeing more sensitive is not 100% a bad thing. It has nothing to do with controlling emotions if you say hateful things and others are hurt and no, you can't blame someones parents if you are beeing an a*****e.

I categorically disagree. While I 100% think racism is wrong. I 100% support someones right to think and feel that way. I have been called names, including racial names, made fun of for numerous reasons, and never, not even once, did my "feelings get hurt". I could not care less what anyone else says or does I will never let it affect me. Everyone needs to realize that the world is full of "a*****e"s and probably always will be. We cannot control them, we can only control how we react to them. I choose to not let them impact me. That is true strength. Now if anything ever gets physical THAT is well over the line.

 

[anavidfan]

I probably, depending on my mood, asked him about Chantix and if it were true that 2 known patients killed their loved ones and got away with it and if I wanted to kill someone could it still be used as a " get out of jail " card too

 

[annyway]

So you think my classmates were right when they bullied me at age 10 because my mother was born in a different country? They were right to surround me with 10+ kids and tell me I stink because I'm not german?
You really think it was my fault that it hurt me when that happened? Freedom of speech i guess...

Also when I had to deal with a boss that made all sorts of inappropriate sexual 'jokes'. Freedom of speech again?

No! Just No! Thats just wrong and when it happens I have every right on earth to be offended!

 

[stols001]

NVM

 

[ScottP]

So you think my classmates were right when they bullied me at age 10 because my mother was born in a different country? They were right to surround me with 10+ kids and tell me I stink because I'm not german?
You really think it was my fault that it hurt me when that happened? Freedom of speech i guess...

Also when I had to deal with a boss that made all sorts of inappropriate sexual 'jokes'. Freedom of speech again?

No! Just No! Thats just wrong and when it happens I have every right on earth to be offended!

Were your classmate right? Absolutely not. Were mine right when similar things happened to me? Absolutely not. However, allowing what they did to bother you was your choice. There are always going to be horrible people like that, and getting bothered by what they say only gives them what they want, it lets them win.

As far as the boss jokes, you could let him know that you don't find them funny and to please stop. You could have even went over his head and let his boss know that NSFW jokes were being told. However, just being upset by them accomplishes nothing. There is a fine line between having some modicum of decency and walking on eggshells.

It is wrong when it happens, but how you react to it is always your choice. If you choose to be offended then that is 100% OK, but you are the one that has to deal with your own emotions. No one else can do that for you.

We have gotten this thread off topic at this point so this will be my final post as it relates to this.