Sarcasm : Vaping gives you pneumonia and brain damage
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If you've been so strong at 10 that it didn't bother you, good for you. I wasn't.
There was no one over my boss' head and I told him several times. So I had to deal with it until I found another job.
I agree, it's way off topic. And I agree that we don't agree. To each his own opinion. Peace.
There was no one over my boss' head and I told him several times. So I had to deal with it until I found another job.
I agree, it's way off topic. And I agree that we don't agree. To each his own opinion. Peace.
Here is a quote that I have always liked and in fact I have it printed in a nice font and background, framed in a desktop holder:
“The longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on life. Attitude, to me, is more important than facts. It is more important than the past, the education, the money, than circumstances, than failure, than successes, than what other people think or say or do. It is more important than appearance, giftedness or skill. It will make or break a company... a church... a home. The remarkable thing is we have a choice everyday regarding the attitude we will embrace for that day. We cannot change our past... we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude. I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it. And so it is with you... we are in charge of our Attitudes.”
Charles R. Swindoll
The same is true with vaping, when people come up to us and try to discourage us from what we are doing, we cannot control them, what they think or believe. We can only control how we react to them. We can get mad or angry. We can debate them, try to educate them, or just ignore them. In this world there is only one person you can ever truly control and that is yourself.
“The longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on life. Attitude, to me, is more important than facts. It is more important than the past, the education, the money, than circumstances, than failure, than successes, than what other people think or say or do. It is more important than appearance, giftedness or skill. It will make or break a company... a church... a home. The remarkable thing is we have a choice everyday regarding the attitude we will embrace for that day. We cannot change our past... we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude. I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it. And so it is with you... we are in charge of our Attitudes.”
Charles R. Swindoll
The same is true with vaping, when people come up to us and try to discourage us from what we are doing, we cannot control them, what they think or believe. We can only control how we react to them. We can get mad or angry. We can debate them, try to educate them, or just ignore them. In this world there is only one person you can ever truly control and that is yourself.
Hon, it did bother me at 10, absolutely. It made me miserable and I had to learn how to make it stop, and how to be a stronger person. I'm merely pointing out that our life experiences shape us, and that is one I wouldn't trade for anything as it taught me how to value Myself, though it took time....
I forget who said it, but one of my favorite quotes is along the lines of, "When every other choice has been taken from you, the one choice that can never be taken away is the power to choose one's own attitude toward the situation."
I have met spectacular people who have suffered more than I can imagine, who have phenomenal attitudes toward life, and who make their life a beautiful thing.
I have met LBGT folks with phenomenal attitudes, who have dealt with incredible hardship, but they usually aren't basing their entire life around what people call them, and whether a cake maker will sell a wedding cake to them.
Anyone who thinks life is "fair" is insane.
The only power I really have, often, is the power to choose my best option in any given situation. That has allowed me to help a lot of middle school girls being bullied, but I don't do it by sympathizing and saying it's wrong. Well, I do, FIRST, but then we work on problem solving. It is the ONLY way to approach these matters--- internally.
I am not saying being insensitive is right, but I am saying it's probably inevitable given the nature of the human condition.
I'm not glad I smoked, but I am so glad I switched to vaping. No one will take that away from me with disapproval (there have been a few gf/bf threads on that lately) and no one but ME can decide: if I vape
What words I use (I am not routinely racist or sexist)
What PC flavor of the day I need to walk with, depending on the news.
No.
Anna
I forget who said it, but one of my favorite quotes is along the lines of, "When every other choice has been taken from you, the one choice that can never be taken away is the power to choose one's own attitude toward the situation."
I have met spectacular people who have suffered more than I can imagine, who have phenomenal attitudes toward life, and who make their life a beautiful thing.
I have met LBGT folks with phenomenal attitudes, who have dealt with incredible hardship, but they usually aren't basing their entire life around what people call them, and whether a cake maker will sell a wedding cake to them.
Anyone who thinks life is "fair" is insane.
The only power I really have, often, is the power to choose my best option in any given situation. That has allowed me to help a lot of middle school girls being bullied, but I don't do it by sympathizing and saying it's wrong. Well, I do, FIRST, but then we work on problem solving. It is the ONLY way to approach these matters--- internally.
I am not saying being insensitive is right, but I am saying it's probably inevitable given the nature of the human condition.
I'm not glad I smoked, but I am so glad I switched to vaping. No one will take that away from me with disapproval (there have been a few gf/bf threads on that lately) and no one but ME can decide: if I vape
What words I use (I am not routinely racist or sexist)
What PC flavor of the day I need to walk with, depending on the news.
No.
Anna
Don't get me wrong, I am proud of who I am today and I might not be the same without all the struggles I've been through.
But seriously, I could easily spare all the pain and trauma I've been through. I don't think I'd be a less worthful person without beeing bullied, abused and raped. But thats seriously tmi and off topic.
No, life isn't fair but shouldn't we work on that? Shouldn't we try to stop hurting others with words (and actions)?
I really don't get why anyone would defend hurting others at all. Why on earth would you want to hurt someone else?
But seriously, I could easily spare all the pain and trauma I've been through. I don't think I'd be a less worthful person without beeing bullied, abused and raped. But thats seriously tmi and off topic.
No, life isn't fair but shouldn't we work on that? Shouldn't we try to stop hurting others with words (and actions)?
I really don't get why anyone would defend hurting others at all. Why on earth would you want to hurt someone else?
I have had mixed results with doctors. However, it at least seems as if the more time passes the more doctors are opening their eyes and minds to vaping.
I don't think anyone here condones or approves of the intentional infliction of physical or emotional pain. I think they may be saying that pain is inevitable. Those who intentionally inflict it upon others have no other manner of dealing with their own internal pain, people of limited internal resources - lashing out as opposed to looking in. This is not to condone intentional cruelty, it is an attitude towards it.
What the hell happened. I posted this morning and now it's 3 pages.
Guess I'm supposed to read it? Ya'll killing me.
Guess I'm supposed to read it? Ya'll killing me.
I've been lucky with my medical folks all either approving or neutral. My neurologist, who also functions as my PCP since I see her so often, asked me about it and was happy to get an explanation from someone who actually knows about it. At one point a nurse had changed my smoking category back to smoker, and she was more than happy to change it back to 'former smoker' and initial the change with her MD and all of her specialist credentials.
Of course she's also the one who knew next to nothing about a very rare condition, but immediately set out to learn, and is keeping it up whenever there's a change or need.
I'm an extreme introvert so most of my friends are old ones I keep up with online. When I've 'talked' about vaping in Facebook I've only had one person come back with the 'But isn't vaping dangerous, useless, etc. but after a little explanation she either changed her mind or decided to keep quiet on the subject. Every one else has been curious or supportive. I much prefer asynchronous communication.
My daughter is supportive, the brother I still communicate with is jealous, because he had to quit smoking due to an oddball lung condition that would rule out vaping as well, so I shy away from saying anything directed at him.
At 66 (42 yrs smoking, 4 yrs vaping) I kind of resent that 'set in their ways' bit, since most of us have been through so many changes and kept up.
Manners/being polite is all the dreaded PC is. It hasn't hurt me at all to keep up over the decades with what various people prefer to be called, and the extra step that not every member of any group wants to be referred to by the 'latest and greatest' change in terminology. I'm just so glad for them to not have to hide, or keep very quiet and tiptoe around questions of race and sexuality.
I did have some problems sharing the bathroom with a trans woman when we were both working the late shift. She kept wanting to talk about shoes and makeup - topics that have never interested me much, and that I have completely ignored for the last 30 years or so.
Of course she's also the one who knew next to nothing about a very rare condition, but immediately set out to learn, and is keeping it up whenever there's a change or need.
I'm an extreme introvert so most of my friends are old ones I keep up with online. When I've 'talked' about vaping in Facebook I've only had one person come back with the 'But isn't vaping dangerous, useless, etc. but after a little explanation she either changed her mind or decided to keep quiet on the subject. Every one else has been curious or supportive. I much prefer asynchronous communication.
My daughter is supportive, the brother I still communicate with is jealous, because he had to quit smoking due to an oddball lung condition that would rule out vaping as well, so I shy away from saying anything directed at him.
At 66 (42 yrs smoking, 4 yrs vaping) I kind of resent that 'set in their ways' bit, since most of us have been through so many changes and kept up.
Manners/being polite is all the dreaded PC is. It hasn't hurt me at all to keep up over the decades with what various people prefer to be called, and the extra step that not every member of any group wants to be referred to by the 'latest and greatest' change in terminology. I'm just so glad for them to not have to hide, or keep very quiet and tiptoe around questions of race and sexuality.
I did have some problems sharing the bathroom with a trans woman when we were both working the late shift. She kept wanting to talk about shoes and makeup - topics that have never interested me much, and that I have completely ignored for the last 30 years or so.
LOL I was reading a thread and thought to start this thinking no one will reply. At least I see I'm not the only one who gets agitated with the topic.
I also have seen a dental surgeon this week and he was pretty happy when I said I vape. Biggest noticeable difference were my teeth when I started vaping almost 2 years back
This is why my wife generally didn't encourage me to talk to her coworkers or supervisors. I would have stood there and argued with him until he gave up.
I would have quoted the Surgeon General, then casually noticed I had no such warning in anything in my vape collection.
I'd like for you to read this article. Not from a religious perspective, just a philosophical one:
Akhilandeshwari: The Power of Brokenness
Then I'd also like for you to listen to this song and, hopefully, find some peace in it:
And, lastly, I'd like for you to know that you are loved and appreciated. Just do what you can.
Been reading through this thread and kind of got stuck on the one about the doctor that said it was safer to smoke than to vape. I am old enough to remember when doctors would advise their asthma patients to smoke menthol cigarettes because the menthol would open up their airways. Doctors are horribly "flavor of the moment" (I know, I work with some) and there are times you have to take what they say with a grain of salt.
Wait... You drank Macallan on the rocks?" What demon possessed you to spoil such a nectar with ice?
I was approached by a woman who thought it was her right to tell me of all the horrors and dangers that vaping does to a body...
I let her finish her assault and stood there for a couple of seconds and told her that ciggies do cause cancer and its been proven to do so, she nodded her head in total agreement, I then told her that as of now they dont know if vaping will cause cancer and most likely wont know for another 10-20 years... then I said "Looks like Ive got another 10-20 years before I get cancer and by then Ill be dead from old age"....
I let her finish her assault and stood there for a couple of seconds and told her that ciggies do cause cancer and its been proven to do so, she nodded her head in total agreement, I then told her that as of now they dont know if vaping will cause cancer and most likely wont know for another 10-20 years... then I said "Looks like Ive got another 10-20 years before I get cancer and by then Ill be dead from old age"....
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