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If you read the article I posted about these allegations, it mentions him posting about the allegations then closing with the Gag Order policy of the University and how he plans to abide by it. LOL
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Certainly makes me gag.
Just the fact that vaping today has over 5000+ fewer chemicals involved that smoking cigarettes makes me feel a lot better. When I smoked cigarettes for over 20 yrs I would get bronchitis 2 x a year every may & October and haven't had it once in the 6 yrs I've been vaping. I follow the studies from the most reputable non-profit organizations and haven't seen anything of this sort. I believe putting anything other than purified air/oxygen into our lungs poses some risk but I know my health has been overall better since stopping smoking and starting to vape. I exercise, run, eat healthy, maintain a healthy weight, don't drink alcohol, I don't use drugs, I use otc meds sparingly only when absolutely necessary. I will stop vaping once I'm ready to start training for marathons regularly just because vaping does have some affect on the increased lung capacity a marathon runner needs, but that's not saying it's because I'm worried about it health wise.
Just my 2 cents
Happy Vaping everyone!
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As a rule of thumb - always ALWAYS read between the lines of any medical study you see. Research of this nature isn’t creating an innovation like an invention would, so consider that whoever is doing the research is getting paid, and the people that pay have an agenda. Specific things to look for;
1) Which laboratory’s conducted the study
2) Who funded the research?
3) What were the constants, control group, spread, and duration of the tests?
4) How did they approach their hypothesis to either prove or disprove?
A REALLY good example is how studies linking fats (natural, not monounsaturated or hydrogenated) to health problems were linked back to sponsors from the sugar industry. Another example was research (citation/reference needed) sponsored by the polymer/nylon industry discrediting the use of hemp fibre and rope in place of nylon. Now I’m not saying the research is bogus but it’s always good to read up on it.
Vaping hasn’t been around long enough (I would think) to be able to draw the sort of conclusions that the study you mentioned stated. Heart disease and heart attacks especially have roots in behaviours/patterns that occur over many, MANY years and even then, genetic factors still play a major part in the outcome.
Definitely have to agree with pretty much everyone else here. As far as imI concerned (and clearly a bunch of other people), his studies are .... and not based off actual facts. I'd never quit vaping off any study he's done. And if anything if you are worried stills perhaps cut out the nicotine. Go to a 0mg juice. It's the nicotine that constricts your blood vessels, similar to caffeine. No need to just give up something that is 95 percent safer than smoking cigs. Especially if you are an ex smoker. There are plenty of other things you probably eat or do that will increase chances for a heart attack or other health risks just as likely or even more than vaping will.
There's been a bunch of newer research showing oxidative stress and strain on the heart and lungs, but it's definitely important to note the size of the samples and that all the evidence I've seen is correlation, not causation. Furthermore, hopefully anyone using ecigs is doing so to quit using tobacco, not just for amusement, and most research shows that they are about 95% safer than traditional tobacco products.
Vapors Produced by Electronic Cigarettes and E-Juices with Flavorings Induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung Epithelial Cells and in Mouse Lung
Vapors Produced by Electronic Cigarettes and E-Juices with Flavorings Induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung Epithelial Cells and in Mouse Lung
Personally I wouldn't take much notice of it but if you are really concerned you may stop and use another form of NRT. Hope it goes well for you.
First you have follow the money and look at the State and University this information comes from. Some CA state legislators talked other legislators into taking CA voters taxes funds and spending our tax moneys to fight tobacco interests (ANTZ = Anti Nicotine and Tobacco Zealot = All of Vaping = evil). UCSF is a CA state University.
re: E-cig study says vaping has no negative health effects on myocardial functions
We should have both academics fight it out at the OK corral.
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NOT Blowing Smoke
Still Blowing Smoke
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You need to keep in mind that a single study does not constitute proof.
To have proof the study and or experiment must be done by many different scientists in many different locations before it can be considered a fact. Most people don't understand that. Just think of all the negative ecig studies we have seen that ended up being widely discredited.
The reason is that anti vaping anti smoking people are doing most of the negative studies. Try looking around and see if there are other identical studies that have produced the same or similar results. If that is the case, then you can start worrying about it.
I agree, and equate the "risk" to my consumption of two cups of black coffee every morn. If caffeine hasn't killed me in the past fifty years then I doubt that nicotine will either.
Exactly, and as to the scope of risk - theres two considerations;
- liklihood of occurring
- scope of potential outcomes
To put it in context I ride a motorcycle everywhere;
My liklihood of an accident occurring is lower (than stats would present) due to controls I put in place such as how I ride, roadcraft, bike roadworthiness etc. nevertheless the risk is still there.
The scope of potential outcomes however are not affected because any accident I do have COULD be potentially catastrophic.
This applies to almost any situation we encounter every day. The point I’m going to make from this is that vaping is no different to walking across a street in that risks are present, but are minimised by the precautions taken vis a vis the ingredients we use and the fact that we can control elements such as nicotine.
In conclusion: vaping =/= Russian Roulette.
If I believed every study that came out on a nearly daily basis you'd find me locked up in a closet in the fetal position.
I don't pay any attention to the B/S the anti-vapers are putting out.
I don't pay any attention to the B/S the anti-vapers are putting out.
People like that are usually the most self-righteous hypocrites on the face of this earth. Preaching their good intentions on the one hand while happily taking away people’s own agency and right to choose on the other.
All I can do is tell you about my experience. I vaped, loved it, but it made me feel sick and gave me arrhythmia. It scared me.
I worked up mentally to stop vaping and just quit cold turkey and started exercising more. Feels great and I do not miss vaping at all. I value my life more than the pleasure I got from vaping.
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