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[englishmick]

Hi everyone. I'm going cross-eyed trying to find some info I suspect doesn't exist in the way I want it, so I thought I'd ask for someone to double-check my thinking:

I use just VG-based Nic with food-grade (Kosher, etc) VG in a bottom coil clearo on eGo-styled batteries. When I use a different clearo I just keep my liquid up onto the wicks. I stopped using any flavorings to get rid of a breathing issue I just developed several months ago.

I have clearo's on the way, but my usual source blanked his site and won't answer my emails. And I'm pretty sure the nicotine I have now will last maybe 3 or 4 months. After reading all the safety stuff I decided quite some time ago that I'm not a good candidate for the fancy stuff since I don't want to blow up the neighborhood

So I'm thinking I should be able to learn re-coiling the clearo's, get as much Nic as I dare, considering I have little storage space *and* I'm getting ready to move to Denver from Central FL., and track down instructions for an AVP I impulse-purchased along with an 18650 with charger. I don't know about your flying experiences, but my liquids always take a quality "hit" in Cargo, though it's not too bad. My concern will be the TSA at the end of October in the Orlando airport. If their dogs get re-trained for nicotine I won't get through like I usually do.

I know this is confusing and messed up. I ask understanding for non-medicated ADD (not by choice) and massive thought confusion trying to pin down the simplest way to deal with all of this. Oh, yes, I would have prepared earlier, but I've just returned from several months of helping my mom after her heart valve replacement, and I couldn't get any space in the freezer at her house allocated to my nicotine. But I might get some space at the back of the fridge after I move in ... maybe.

Anyway, will someone please tell me if my thinking is OK, that all I really need is nicotine and VG if I can learn to re-coil my clearo's? Waitasec - are wire and wicks a problem, too? I know what to order on the wicks, but for 2.4 Ohms which size (Kanthal, right?) wire should I get? I promise not to try anything until I have somebody on Skype or something. Actually, I'll be living near all those smelly dispensaries, so I should be able to find a human supervisor (I might have to buy a brownie, but I'll survive).

Thanks ever so much for reading this. I don't post much, and when I do it's usually because I've already tried and gotten confused. Panic comes next if I don't reach out. And I'm reaching!

EDIT: I picked this thread specifically because you all have been through it all already and are quite calm and cheerful. I like that!

What type of clearo do you have? I don't know anything about clearos, not even sure what you mean by clearo, is that another name for tank? Not everything can be recoiled. You need to find that out, unless you already have. Might be worth checking out a regular rebuildable tank while they are still available, and prices are rock bottom right now for a lot of tanks.

Ego's won't last forever, they wear out. Don't know the AVP, but if you are thinking about long term self sufficiency one mod is a little risky. It could die and leave you with nothing.

For a 2.4 Ohm coil I'm guessing you would need 30 gauge kanthal. Anything thicker would probably require too many wraps. Wire will always be available from non-vaping sources, but it's so cheap you might as well buy a bunch now. Cotton for wicks you can pick up anywhere.

As for the nicotine, like someone suggested you could buy it now and mail it to yourself at your mother's address. Buy it now because it could disappear from the shelves tomorrow. Nobody knows what's coming. If you leave it until you get to Denver it might be too late.

Be very careful packing it. You don't want it leaking on a postal worker. I suggest several layers of heavy duty ziplock bags, and lots of bubble wrap and tape. Preferably in plastic bottles. Not sure what to say about declaring the contents when you drop it off at the post office. If it says nicotine on a label that might be a problem somewhere along the route. The safe way would be to rent a car and drive down, though I guess that's a long drive.

 

[DebiK]

Hi everyone. I'm going cross-eyed trying to find some info I suspect doesn't exist in the way I want it, so I thought I'd ask for someone to double-check my thinking:

I use just VG-based Nic with food-grade (Kosher, etc) VG in a bottom coil clearo on eGo-styled batteries. When I use a different clearo I just keep my liquid up onto the wicks. I stopped using any flavorings to get rid of a breathing issue I just developed several months ago.

I have clearo's on the way, but my usual source blanked his site and won't answer my emails. And I'm pretty sure the nicotine I have now will last maybe 3 or 4 months. After reading all the safety stuff I decided quite some time ago that I'm not a good candidate for the fancy stuff since I don't want to blow up the neighborhood

So I'm thinking I should be able to learn re-coiling the clearo's, get as much Nic as I dare, considering I have little storage space *and* I'm getting ready to move to Denver from Central FL., and track down instructions for an AVP I impulse-purchased along with an 18650 with charger. I don't know about your flying experiences, but my liquids always take a quality "hit" in Cargo, though it's not too bad. My concern will be the TSA at the end of October in the Orlando airport. If their dogs get re-trained for nicotine I won't get through like I usually do.

I know this is confusing and messed up. I ask understanding for non-medicated ADD (not by choice) and massive thought confusion trying to pin down the simplest way to deal with all of this. Oh, yes, I would have prepared earlier, but I've just returned from several months of helping my mom after her heart valve replacement, and I couldn't get any space in the freezer at her house allocated to my nicotine. But I might get some space at the back of the fridge after I move in ... maybe.

Anyway, will someone please tell me if my thinking is OK, that all I really need is nicotine and VG if I can learn to re-coil my clearo's? Waitasec - are wire and wicks a problem, too? I know what to order on the wicks, but for 2.4 Ohms which size (Kanthal, right?) wire should I get? I promise not to try anything until I have somebody on Skype or something. Actually, I'll be living near all those smelly dispensaries, so I should be able to find a human supervisor (I might have to buy a brownie, but I'll survive).

Thanks ever so much for reading this. I don't post much, and when I do it's usually because I've already tried and gotten confused. Panic comes next if I don't reach out. And I'm reaching!

EDIT: I picked this thread specifically because you all have been through it all already and are quite calm and cheerful. I like that!

Could you order the nic and have it shipped to your Mother's address? Then you wouldn't have to deal with mailing it or the TSA.

 

[Alien Traveler]

This is what i have been waiting for. I have been using the same two iSticks for close to two years now and was about to order a couple of mods and perhaps a few tanks, when the deeming rules came out. Figured i'll wait til October and November when all the new introductions to the market have been out for a while and first reviews /customer feedbacks start appearing. My iSticks are still working fine, so i can wait til Oct/Nov or maybe even til black friday. Figure there will be some really good deals then.

I am also really interested to find out which of these new products will be "deemed" to have been in the market as of 8/8/2016. Is it the date the product was listed for sale, the date it entered U.S. soil, the date the first one was shipped etc.... Also, yeah, what about fixing issues/improvements etc... I have a feeling the FDA themselves haven't worked out the details.

If you have nerves of steel or very special vaper's crystal ball you sure can wait.
As I see it right now the major problem is how and how fast your (or mine) state will react on deeming. Will it impose heavy tax? Will it prohibit mail delivery? Or will it do nothing (at least till November)?

 

[Mazinny]

If you have nerves of steel or very special vaper's crystal ball you sure can wait.
As I see it right now the major problem is how and how fast your (or mine) state will react on deeming. Will it impose heavy tax? Will it prohibit mail delivery? Or will it do nothing (at least till November)?

No crystal ball ! I pay attention to Casaa calls to action, and what's going on in my state. Taxation needs to be discussed, voted on, signed into law, and implemented. Why would mail delivery be prohibited ? My state does not include ecigs in the definition of " tobacco products ". I do expect stricter on-line age verification, in fact my main eliquid supplier has already started that, and i have been approved in their system.

Everyone reacts to uncertainty in their own way. When i lived in NY, every few years we were warned about " the Storm of the Century ! " approaching. Different people reacted differently. Some made sure they had working flashlights, radio, batteries and enough food, water, formula, and diapers for a few days. Others bought two generators, battery powered lanterns, enough batteries for years of use, and generally emptied the shelves of their local store and pharmacy.

 

[Alien Traveler]

No crystal ball ! I pay attention to Casaa calls to action, and what's going on in my state. Taxation needs to be discussed, voted on, signed into law, and implemented. Why would mail delivery be prohibited ? My state does not include ecigs in the definition of " tobacco products ". I do expect stricter on-line age verification, in fact my main eliquid supplier has already started that, and i have been approved in their system.

Everyone reacts to uncertainty in their own way. When i lived in NY, every few years we were warned about " the Storm of the Century ! " approaching. Different people reacted differently. Some made sure they had working flashlights, radio, batteries and enough food, water, formula, and diapers for a few days. Others bought two generators, battery powered lanterns, enough batteries for years of use, and generally emptied the shelves of their local store and pharmacy.

I mostly agree with you, but I also spent about $150 on stockpiling...

 

[Mazinny]

I mostly agree with you, but I also spent about $150 on stockpiling...

I already have way more than $150 worth of mechs and rda's ( and even 1/2 liter of nicotine ) that i bought previously and didn't really use. I consider it a reminder to myself not to buy stuff just because they are on sale, oh and my stockpile !

 

[MMW]

I've been using stockpiling as a self deceptive tool to be spendy.

 

[ScandaLeX]

Everyone reacts to uncertainty in their own way. When i lived in NY, every few years we were warned about " the Storm of the Century ! " approaching. Different people reacted differently. Some made sure they had working flashlights, radio, batteries and enough food, water, formula, and diapers for a few days. Others bought two generators, battery powered lanterns, enough batteries for years of use, and generally emptied the shelves of their local store and pharmacy.

Funny but true!!
And this is the very same type of shopping I am watching people here doing for the vapocalypse. With the exception of nic, the vape things I am buying is no different than what I'd buy any other time but I refuse to purchase items just because it's on sale while having no need for it.
Like you said.....everyone reacts differently.

 

[bnrkwest]

For me it was a chance to stock up on new things I never tried before and so glad I did as it could be my last chance to try new things I didn't have before. I was still using Cartos and CE 16's, it's been fun

 

[Vandal]

For me it was a chance to stock up on new things I never tried before and so glad I did as it could be my last chance to try new things I didn't have before. I was still using Cartos and CE 16's, it's been fun

Ditto. Most of the gear I have purchased is all new to me, untried by me, even though it's all old tech by now. The advantage of that is very low prices. I feel I have a lifetime of devices for relatively little money. Some of this stuff, even if it weren't for The Deeming, might not be available in the future.

Ha ha, even cartos are new to me.

 

[Iron Molly]

Ditto. Most of the gear I have purchased is all new to me, untried by me, even though it's all old tech by now. The advantage of that is very low prices. I feel I have a lifetime of devices for relatively little money. Some of this stuff, even if it weren't for The Deeming, might not be available in the future.

Ha ha, even cartos are new to me.

I'm in the same boat! I tried rebuildables when they first came out. And they pretty much sucked! Until this deeming nonsense, I was still using 510 LR atties. Glad I waited. Now I can just buy the tried and true and vape happily for a long time.

 

[Saippenu]

Funny but true!!
And this is the very same type of shopping I am watching people here doing for the vapocalypse. With the exception of nic, the vape things I am buying is no different than what I'd buy any other time but I refuse to purchase items just because it's on sale while having no need for it.
Like you said.....everyone reacts differently.

I bought Nic because I doubt it will be available to the general public for very much longer. I bought hardware because it becomes a tobacco product 8/8/16 and my state has a 90% tax on tobacco products. I'd like to hope that in three years I'll be eating crow and admitting that I overreacted. My expectation is that I'll be laughing all the way to the bank while more conservative folks are crying about the new prices. I sincerely hope that I'll be eating crow.....but I doubt it. Been around long enough to know how this all works. Not holding out much hope.

 

[Haktuspit]

Nic was the only real panic purchase I made. I don't even consider myself to be "Stocked up" even though I spent at least $300 recently. Truth is all I had before this that was close to modern was two eleaf iSticks, a Toptank and a subtank mini, and a NEbox I had recently purchased.

The things I've bought, 3 mods, 5 RTA's, two Toptank kits, DIY gear, are all things I probably should have had already anyways.

 

[Mazinny]

I bought Nic because I doubt it will be available to the general public for very much longer. I bought hardware because it becomes a tobacco product 8/8/16 and my state has a 90% tax on tobacco products.

Obviously the decision to buy whatever you want, for whatever reason, and in whatever quantity, is yours and yours alone. I am curious though, which state is it, that will tax hardware at 90 % on 8/9 ? Do they include e-cigs in their definition of " tobacco product " in the tax code, and thus subject to taxation ? I know of the 40% wholesale tax in PA starting Oct 1, but haven't heard of another state with 90 % tax.

 

[Rt1Rebel]

Disappointed with my vapemail today.

I ordered 2 Aspire Triton tanks with the RTA kits, and they sent me Triton V2s. It makes me mad, because I researched all of this beforehand and knew darned well that the RTA kit is not compatible with the V2 without some machining, yet the vendor showed a picture of the V1 and specifically bundled the phantom V2 with the RTA in an options package. I guess I'll keep them, I did order some prebuilt coils with them, and if push comes to shove, I guess I could figure out a way to make the modifications, and the V2s came with extra tank glass, so I've got that going for me, which is nice.

Anyway, I found some V1s elsewhere and ordered them, and I will order 2 more backup RTA kits as well.

 

[440BB]

I have a number of things on my Fasttech wishlist that I haven't ordered, thinking their orders will come in just fine after 8/8 for quite a while, likely at least 12/31. Part of my motivation is cost, part of it is wanting more vapemail in the near future. Does this sound reasonable?

 

[grandmato5]

I have a number of things on my Fasttech wishlist that I haven't ordered, thinking their orders will come in just fine after 8/8 for quite a while, likely at least 12/31. Part of my motivation is cost, part of it is wanting more vapemail in the near future. Does this sound reasonable?

Sounds reasonable to me

IF there is going to be any problems with personal orders imported from China in the near future we'll know in the next few weeks. I wouldn't bet there won't be problems somewhere down that two year road, but I'm thinking that might take awhile.

 

[bnrkwest]

I have a number of things on my Fasttech wishlist that I haven't ordered, thinking their orders will come in just fine after 8/8 for quite a while, likely at least 12/31. Part of my motivation is cost, part of it is wanting more vapemail in the near future. Does this sound reasonable?

I have a couple things coming after 8-8, basically I am curious if they go thru and if they don't I will be upset about that, but thinking it should be ok, I hope.

 

[Fozzy71]

I have a couple things coming after 8-8, basically I am curious if they go thru and if they don't I will be upset about that, but thinking it should be ok, I hope.

I have a cart full at FT, and a lot on my wishlist, and was trying to decide between ordering (clone) RDA's from efun/FT and hoping they show up or ordering (authentics) stateside from vapenw/eciggity and being more confident they will arrive yet paying more.

 

[bnrkwest]

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