You long post reads like a "company sales brochure" for this company to me. And suggesting that a "for profit" company some how equates to CASAA and what they do for all vapers, is just mind boggling to me.
should we be stocking up just in case
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You long post reads like a "company sales brochure" for this company to me. And suggesting that a "for profit" company some how equates to CASAA and what they do for all vapers, is just mind boggling to me.
Sad to say and not meant to be insulting but you have no idea of the situation or the players. Many vendors have donated to CASSAA and have posted the CASSAA banner/ link on their websites. The reason vendors now have a max of 36 mg juice and many have tightened their controls and processes is to meet certain criteria.. My experience with the FDA is it's a very long drawn out process....it won't be immediate regulation. I'm just hoping that we are allowed to be involved in all aspects including viewing the process in real time.
The problem with myself and many others (wv2win and Baditude to name a couple) is we are very passionate about our ,and others, right to live a long and healthy life. We are not nutz nor are we krazy...simply passionate about certain issues.
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I guess you didn't read all the posts in this thread because this was touched on before. Since the FDA already tried to ban vaping nationwide, if they try again and are successfull, you really believe they couldn't stop the purchase of vaping supplies over the internet? It would actually be quite simple. If the banks, credit card compainies, etc won't process the payments, then it's finished. If the purchase of nicotine requires a strictly controlled, expensive license, DIY is also finished.
Personal checks? Money orders? Cashiers check? It would take longer but there would not be a problem with those.
I read through 20+ pages of this thread, I'll read the rest later, it's been going in circles for quite a while. I suppose posting my thoughts on this is just another part of the circle, so be it. I joined CASAA, also got my mom to join and she has never had anything to do with nicotine. I'll try to get my only friend that doesn't think vaping is disgusting to join this weekend, I hate talking politics with him but I will do it for this. I would send them money, but I have had a really terrible streak of bad luck this month, and have been unemployed for a long time now. I will send in the snail mails to my elected officials in the next 2 days, none of which I helped elect but someone in their office is still supposed to read their constituents mail. Honestly, I am surprised the FDA didn't have regulations on liquid nicotine concentrate from the very beginning, the government has their grubby fingers on every other form of it. I don't think they would make us safer in regards to vaping, I'm just surprised it's been unregulated this long. I consider vapers to be pretty lucky, so far.
In regards to the OP, I would say that stockpiling nicotine e-liquid would be a good idea if you can still find any product left. It got real bad, real fast. Finding 100mg strength has gotten very hard, but some vendors still have 60mg, most have 48mg, and there seems to be plenty of 36mg. If you think getting the more diluted strength liquid is too costly now, imagine paying many times more or getting none at all. If you can't find any nicotine liquid to buy, that's just more incentive to do what you can to keep it legal and unregulated as long as possible. And if you're not worried about FDA regulations, this is not the thread for you, maybe not even the right website.
In regards to the OP, I would say that stockpiling nicotine e-liquid would be a good idea if you can still find any product left. It got real bad, real fast. Finding 100mg strength has gotten very hard, but some vendors still have 60mg, most have 48mg, and there seems to be plenty of 36mg. If you think getting the more diluted strength liquid is too costly now, imagine paying many times more or getting none at all. If you can't find any nicotine liquid to buy, that's just more incentive to do what you can to keep it legal and unregulated as long as possible. And if you're not worried about FDA regulations, this is not the thread for you, maybe not even the right website.
For those still looking for nic base, RTS has restocked and all strengths are available at this time.
I would suggest stocking up at least a little bit if you can afford to. I think it's better to be safe than sorry.
If your in to DYI your going to use it eventually anyway. Regulation/taxation of eliquid is probably just around the corner and I have a feeling the same people claiming that nothing is going to happen will be the first to post and complain how expensive eliquid has become after the FDA ruling. We have all had plenty of time to prepare except for the new vapors out there so no excuses in the future from the old goats!!!
I would suggest stocking up at least a little bit if you can afford to. I think it's better to be safe than sorry.
If your in to DYI your going to use it eventually anyway. Regulation/taxation of eliquid is probably just around the corner and I have a feeling the same people claiming that nothing is going to happen will be the first to post and complain how expensive eliquid has become after the FDA ruling. We have all had plenty of time to prepare except for the new vapors out there so no excuses in the future from the old goats!!!
Yep the last time the FDA tried to ban vaping and seize Vendor's supplies they messed up bigtime cuz it was a sloppy and poorly thought out plan. The FDA should've known bullying and illegally seizing products would not fly within the justice system. This time they have taken the time to line up their ducks and are ready to take it thru the "proper" channels.
Just finished reading the rest of this thread, took a lot less time after I quit reading anything posted by stacee jaxx or any reactions to him(?) around page 30.
The possibility of a FDA regulation getting so many vapors to deplete the supplies of all the major 100mg nic vendors is just like another recent shortage of certain items after possible government regulation. I hope this e-liquid situation turns out the same way, but since FDA representatives do not post on these forums we should at least be concerned. I am very sorry to be another one of those vapors that has probably enough 100mg nic for the next year or more, but I did buy it before I had any idea that the reality of FDA regulations was a very real thing. I just wanted to make some flavorless base to add my favorite e-liquid vendor's concentrated flavors to, since they make it twice as strong as I need. I hope they can stay in business making their flavors nic free, I don't think I can make flavors as good as they do.
If joining CASAA is not a requirement for joining ECF, something more substantial than a banner might help new and old members want to join and support them. Maybe restrict coupon codes to CASAA members? I have no idea how to implement such a move or how to prove CASAA membership, but the sticky on the homepage and threads like this aren't going to cut it. If every ECF member joined CASAA it probably wouldn't be enough to sway the FDA, but it couldn't hurt.
Edit: Thomasis, if you blink, it will be gone. Unless you want a VG base, they are down to a few 60ml bottles of 100mg. Even in a VG base, they are down to a handful of each bottle size. They do have much more 60mg strength, as do many other vendors. If you absolutely have make a stash, be happy with what you can get before it's gone.
The possibility of a FDA regulation getting so many vapors to deplete the supplies of all the major 100mg nic vendors is just like another recent shortage of certain items after possible government regulation. I hope this e-liquid situation turns out the same way, but since FDA representatives do not post on these forums we should at least be concerned. I am very sorry to be another one of those vapors that has probably enough 100mg nic for the next year or more, but I did buy it before I had any idea that the reality of FDA regulations was a very real thing. I just wanted to make some flavorless base to add my favorite e-liquid vendor's concentrated flavors to, since they make it twice as strong as I need. I hope they can stay in business making their flavors nic free, I don't think I can make flavors as good as they do.
If joining CASAA is not a requirement for joining ECF, something more substantial than a banner might help new and old members want to join and support them. Maybe restrict coupon codes to CASAA members? I have no idea how to implement such a move or how to prove CASAA membership, but the sticky on the homepage and threads like this aren't going to cut it. If every ECF member joined CASAA it probably wouldn't be enough to sway the FDA, but it couldn't hurt.
Edit: Thomasis, if you blink, it will be gone. Unless you want a VG base, they are down to a few 60ml bottles of 100mg. Even in a VG base, they are down to a handful of each bottle size. They do have much more 60mg strength, as do many other vendors. If you absolutely have make a stash, be happy with what you can get before it's gone.
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Question.
Was Blu manufactured prior to 2007?
If not than we MAY have a big part of BT on our side... At least as far as hardware goes.
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Was Blu manufactured prior to 2007?
If not than we MAY have a big part of BT on our side... At least as far as hardware goes.
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Either you're not getting it or I'm misreading this post. What makes you think Intellicig will be any better placed to supply your 45 mg nic if the government bans the sale of nicotine period? They can do all the QA in the world and you think politicians and special interests will give a hoot? If nicotine is allowed, you can guarantee is will be maybe a 4% max as in other countries, and you'll be whistling for your 45%
The question was should we be stocking up.
The question was should we be stocking up.
hey now do any of you know which common tobacco blend for diy is a good match for the American spirit brand analog? thanks in advance!!
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Are you sure that's all you're vaping Stacee
? I'm a Brit as are many others here, and you're blowing a LOT of smoke. Since when did any judges or anyone else have a damn thing to say when Parliament gets together with their partners in crime? They pass any law/new tax whenever and however they please.....and you WILL obey it or pay it, or else...
However, the thread was "should we stock up?" My personal thoughts are that vaping has already been struck off the register in several countries, ie. no nicotine, or no more than 3-4% nicotine and I don't trust any element of, or sense of "fairness" having anything to do with it. I have stocked up with some premixed 36% VG and batteries and clearos to the extent I can afford. I have donated to CASAA and will continue to do so.
? I'm a Brit as are many others here, and you're blowing a LOT of smoke. Since when did any judges or anyone else have a damn thing to say when Parliament gets together with their partners in crime? They pass any law/new tax whenever and however they please.....and you WILL obey it or pay it, or else...However, the thread was "should we stock up?" My personal thoughts are that vaping has already been struck off the register in several countries, ie. no nicotine, or no more than 3-4% nicotine and I don't trust any element of, or sense of "fairness" having anything to do with it. I have stocked up with some premixed 36% VG and batteries and clearos to the extent I can afford. I have donated to CASAA and will continue to do so.
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Beach, you should ask this question in a different subforum.
Try Requests for Opinions/Reviews
Good luck!
thanks for pointing me in the right direction and i now realize i could have been considered a hijacker on this thread...so sorry all! but much knowledge found in this thread! fantastic!
beachbum
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Are you sure that's all you're vaping Stacee
Please stop feeding the munchkins Hulamoon. I do think everyone gets it. I very rarely use the ignore feature on forums because I think most people will eventually add something to the discussion, but I did in this case. Just saying. Peace
The op says "should we be stocking up just in case. Just in case what ?. I think my comment is totally related to the op. You're the one talking about "central banking".
So that kind of corruption is global is it ?. What ?, like the world series of baseball ?..Is that the world you're talking about !?. I don't live there !.
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We already figured that one out Stace
Is that the world you're talking about !?. I don't live there !.
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