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eratikmind

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Thanx Andy, maybe I'll hold off on the Provari for now. I really like VW and am hoping for it on the next version.

With a Sig Zmax in hand, I would spend my dollars on quality juice delivery devices. The said is the difference between a good and spectacular vaping experience.

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With a Sig Zmax in hand, I would spend my dollars on quality juice delivery devices. The said is the difference between a good and spectacular Vaping experience.

- Andy

Any suggestions Andy? I really do need some help.

I have yards of every size silica wick, kanthal in 28-36 gauge, a couple sq feet of ss mesh and even some fishsticks. I have several cheap rebuildables including an AGA T2, AGA S, an A8, and a terminator clone. I hate them all and don't use them in any configuration. They all require constant tweaking and suck up the juice. I can easily spend more time fooling with these things as I do vaping them.

Then, I hate the Kanger T3 and pro tanks - can't taste the juice. I went back to vivi novas, use carto tanks with F-16 cartos in VVV glass tanks, and, believe it or not, I really like the vision eternities. Yeah, they leak, but are cake to rebuild without constant fussing, and when placed on a sealed adapter, they give a nice dense hit. The very density most rebuildables seem to lack (T2). I don't like an airy hit. Lastly, I don't think I want to pay $150 for yet another rebuildable. I don't need the world's best vape at any cost, but an improved one giving value for the dollar. Much like the Sig - really an impressive value so far.

Any advice Andy? You and several others in this thread have been more open minded, objective, and logical than any other I have encountered on ECF. I really would appreciate any advice.
 

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Any suggestions Andy? I really do need some help.

I have yards of every size silica wick, kanthal in 28-36 gauge, a couple sq feet of ss mesh and even some fishsticks. I have several cheap rebuildables including an AGA T2, AGA S, an A8, and a terminator clone. I hate them all and don't use them in any configuration. They all require constant tweaking and suck up the juice. I can easily spend more time fooling with these things as I do vaping them.

Then, I hate the Kanger T3 and pro tanks - can't taste the juice. I went back to vivi novas, use carto tanks with F-16 cartos in VVV glass tanks, and, believe it or not, I really like the vision eternities. Yeah, they leak, but are cake to rebuild without constant fussing, and when placed on a sealed adapter, they give a nice dense hit. The very density most rebuildables seem to lack (T2). I don't like an airy hit. Lastly, I don't think I want to pay $150 for yet another rebuildable. I don't need the world's best vape at any cost, but an improved one giving value for the dollar. Much like the Sig - really an impressive value so far.

Any advice Andy? You and several others in this thread have been more open minded, objective, and logical than any other I have encountered on ECF. I really would appreciate any advice.

Just my $.02. I can't find a delivery system that works well for all the juices I like - and I'm down to about 6 regulars.

I like Johnson Creek tobacco flavors (I mix them to get a 75/25 PG/VG), but they don't work well in Vivi or BCC devices. For these, I use carto tanks and they vape really well. These run on my S-ZMax almost exclusively.

I have some fruit flavors from HDV and MBV that do better in T3's and EVods. My favorite coffee vape, Organic Kona Cream from HDV, actually works best in the Pro Tank. I use EVod heads in my Pro Tank but the draw is still too airy for most of my juices. But for whatever reason, the airy draw brings out more flavor in the Kona Cream.

Obviously, your mileage may vary, but I have completely given up trying to find the "perfect" delivery system for all my flavors....and I only have 6 I vape regularly.
 

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Any suggestions Andy? I really do need some help.

I have yards of every size silica wick, kanthal in 28-36 gauge, a couple sq feet of ss mesh and even some fishsticks. I have several cheap rebuildables including an AGA T2, AGA S, an A8, and a terminator clone. I hate them all and don't use them in any configuration. They all require constant tweaking and suck up the juice. I can easily spend more time fooling with these things as I do vaping them.

Then, I hate the Kanger T3 and pro tanks - can't taste the juice. I went back to vivi novas, use carto tanks with F-16 cartos in VVV glass tanks, and, believe it or not, I really like the vision eternities. Yeah, they leak, but are cake to rebuild without constant fussing, and when placed on a sealed adapter, they give a nice dense hit. The very density most rebuildables seem to lack (T2). I don't like an airy hit. Lastly, I don't think I want to pay $150 for yet another rebuildable. I don't need the world's best vape at any cost, but an improved one giving value for the dollar. Much like the Sig - really an impressive value so far.

Any advice Andy? You and several others in this thread have been more open minded, objective, and logical than any other I have encountered on ECF. I really would appreciate any advice.

Odysseus,

At the risk of having to wear a flame suit, in a nut shell, I will share the following with you:

I have experimented with just about everyone clearomizer (VVN, T2, T3, Stardust types, protank, Drunker, etc., which has been available, until last month. I have used the Boge, Smok, and Ikenvape cartomizers for tanks. I have used RBAs and RDAs.

Based on your above noted comments and experiences, I will not discuss rebuildables of any platform. Thus, moving forward, my current personal minimum delivery device standard is an OCD tank from IBTanked fitted with an IKV 510 Mega Fusion 3.0Ω cartomizer. The said affords me the best, on the go daily, vaping experience with regard to flavor and vapor performance.

The IBTanked tanks are of extreme quality and VALUE. My Vaperfexion and Phiniac tanks perform no better than my IBTs, which I currently have 7 or 8 of. The IKV cartos are the best cartos, which I have personally used. The IKV is only bested by the Diver from Atmistique, which is a rebuildable carto. However, that is a totally different discussion, if you wish.

At the end of my Vaping day, I am quite pleased with my current choices. As such, I trust that you and others find your sweet spots, if not already having done so.


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Thanks Yzer...but I can't find the receipt, lol
I held onto it for a while too, for that reason (just in case)
I'll do some basic cleaning and noalox it and see what happens :)

Just log into your account on Varitube.com (assuming that's where you got it from the sounds of what yzer said) and print out a new receipt/invoice from there. Easy peasy! :)

Come to think of it, you wouldn't even need to print that out because they have a record of your purchase in their computer system. Just use the built in request system (from your account page) to send an email to Perry. He's been super responsive and helpful in all the questions/concerns I've thrown his way.

Good luck!
 

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Thanks Andy. I'm now on the waiting list for some IKV fusion cartos. I guess I can start messing with my rebuildables again as well. Maybe I can achieve better results powering with the Sig.

Lets say I was going to buy another rebuildable, what would you suggest?

Odysseus, simply put, knowing what I know, now . . . I would highly suggest a Smoktech RSST, if you do not already have one. IMO, it is the best of the Chinese genny styled RBAs.

Beyond that, I don't want to appear to be a Greek fan boy in this thread.

- Andy
 
Have had mine for about 3+ weeks. It it is the 1st VV device I bought (Im still new at this, 6 weeks clean). My only complaint is the button. A day or two ago it started misfiring occasionally if I didn't hit it squarley. Aside from that no problems and I use the crap out of it. My opinion shouldn't carry too much weight since I'm new, but if anybody asks me, it's well worth the money.
 

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Have had mine for about 3+ weeks. It it is the 1st VV device I bought (Im still new at this, 6 weeks clean). My only complaint is the button. A day or two ago it started misfiring occasionally if I didn't hit it squarley. Aside from that no problems and I use the crap out of it. My opinion shouldn't carry too much weight since I'm new, but if anybody asks me, it's well worth the money.


i agree with you completely
 

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Enjoy your Sig Zmax. As an owner of 2 provari minis, the Sig performs on par with the ProVari. However, the additional monies spent for a provari will yield an American made APV, which has stellar design and execution of build. If that is significant to you, then the extra premium is well worth it.

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I couldn't agree more! I have a Provari and think it was worth every penny. But, I am considering a Sig Tele to carry around as a "beater". My Provari is just to nice to be out and about. It's a big, scary world out there!
 

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OK, the only mod I have ever used has been an evic. Why is this Sige hitting harder and producing more vapor than my evic at .5W less power? Same atty and, I won't have my AW batts until tomorrow. I'm using the protected Panasonic straight from my evic.

It could be because the Evic is not entirely accurate on the settings - the output is different to what is set. The Zmax is very accurate.
Mountain Prophet tested out the Evic - Joyetech eVic: VV Akkuträger mit PC Anschluß » Mountain Prophet
I use Google translate. VW results are down the page.
Just FYI since I don't know what watts you vape at, but that could explain the difference.
 

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It could be because the Evic is not entirely accurate on the settings - the output is different to what is set. The Zmax is very accurate.
Mountain Prophet tested out the Evic - Joyetech eVic: VV Akkuträger mit PC Anschluß » Mountain Prophet
I use Google translate. VW results are down the page.
Just FYI since I don't know what watts you vape at, but that could explain the difference.

Is because you must be in mean mode, set you zmax RSM... if is not in rms you will output higher voltage than is setup for.


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Did you own an evic? Because mine is well accurate. Maybe you have some issues with yours


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I'm not knocking it Dax. Lots of people are very happy with them. Did you take a look at the test figures? Its a good pv but if you want to match the settings against another mod they won't always both fire with the same output at the same setting. So sometimes people notice a difference and that can be the reason. As I said originally, I was just giving an FYI. I have recommended Evics to people myself based on the features they were looking for, and they are happy with them.
 

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I'm not knocking it Dax. Lots of people are very happy with them. Did you take a look at the test figures? Its a good pv but if you want to match the settings against another mod they won't always both fire with the same output at the same setting. So sometimes people notice a difference and that can be the reason. As I said originally, I was just giving an FYI. I have recommended Evics to people myself based on the features they were looking for, and they are happy with them.

I understand not all mods output the same. But you just said that evic is not accurate and i will disagree on that, maybe if you told me feels very cheap, hell yeah feels so cheap but is a very accurate mod, i have the latest version (screws in the top threading) maybe they are some change or maybe the latest update fixed that, i have here the evic , st vmax, vamo and all 3 at 8 watts hit almost the same. The evic going in the top of the list becaus is more smooth in the voltage line and dont have the rattle coil when hitting the fire button nor keep firing after you depress the button


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I understand not all mods output the same. But you just said that evic is not accurate and i will disagree on that, maybe if you told me feels very cheap, hell yeah feels so cheap but is a very accurate mod, i have the latest version (screws in the top threading) maybe they are some change or maybe the latest update fixed that, i have here the evic , st vmax, vamo and all 3 at 8 watts hit almost the same. The evic going in the top of the list becaus is more smooth in the voltage line and dont have the rattle coil when hitting the fire button nor keep firing after you depress the button


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You didn't look, right? It's not on every setting.
Joyetech eVic: VV Akkuträger mit PC Anschluß » Mountain Prophet
Evic on watts:

Should be 1.4 Ohm 1.8 Ohm 2.2 Ohm 2.6 Ohm
2.0 W, 6.8 W, 5.3 W, 4.3 W, 3.7 W,
3.0 W, 6.8 W , 5.3 W, 4.3 W, 3.7 W,
5.0 W, 6.8 W, 5.3 W, 5.2 W, 5.2 W
7.0 W , 7.4 W, 7.7 W, 7.2 W , 6.9 W
9.0 W, 9.7 W, 10.0 W, 9.0 W, 9.0 W
11.0 W, 10.3 W, 10.0 W, 10.0 W, 10.6 W
13.0 W, 10.8W, 10.1 W, 10.5 W, 10.6 W
15.0 W, 10.6 W, 10.5 W, 10.5 W, 10.7 W

Compare with the Zmax chip:
Und sie bewegt sich doch! Zmax V2.0 RMS ist da.. » Mountain Prophet

I think the formatting gets lost in the post. Since I don't know what watts he vapes at or what ohms he may use, I posted it for info. The Evic is not always accurate. As I said, its a good mod and lots of people like it. But the different output can explain why some people notice a difference.
 
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Do you forgot that evic have an amp limitation? If the evic is in the amp that he can handle is pretty accurate, if you setup something on the higer amp he cant handle is obvious he stays under,, make your ohm laws calculation and you will see.

Never mind we are getting out off topic here, im very satisfied with mine, could be less cheappy feel but i liked,,

Now is turn to my already ordered ,,,,, vmax v3 telescopic flat head,, dam too much name for a mod hehehehehe


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