Sigelei Zmax V3 and V5 Telescopic: User's Group

[yzer]

Hey, it's been almost a year since I bought Efests at Crystal Clear vaping. Here are better prices and not much difference between flat and button tops.

Efest IMR 18650 HD 2250mAh Battery - Button Top

 

[yzer]

What no Provari! Shame Shame! What is not to like about a 1960's segment leds and no variable wattage.

I'm just not a chosen one. My grandkids won't be inheriting my Provari and taking it to Antiques Roadshow.

 

[Nailz]

I just got these efest batteries for my zmax

Efest 35AMP IMR18650- 2500mah - 101 Vape

 

[yzer]

I just got these efest batteries for my zmax

Efest 35AMP IMR18650- 2500mah - 101 Vape

Let us know how that bad boy works out. Maybe you can get the 19W out of the Mean voltage setting.

 

[Nailz]

Let us know how that bad boy works out. Maybe you can get the 19W out of the Mean voltage setting.

Probably bit over kill for the zmax, but they are newest ones out, and people rating them high so far.

 

[yzer]

Smok developed Zmax. Sigelei also uses the basic Smok Zmax technology in V2, V3 and V5. Sigelei and Smok are two different companies making different products from different production facilities. Calling it a Zmax doesn't mean it's a Sigelei or a Smok.

The SX200 chip used in the 20 watt Sigelei Legend was developed by the Chinese firm Yihiecigar. Like Zmax technology, Sigelei is using Yihiecigar technology for 20W mods. Yihiecigar has now introduced 30W technology.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Yihiecigar/223436427839147

 

[AnonymousUserName]

Wow i was about to buy the 20W, but with the 30W right around the corner ill just wait for that. The lack of VV on the 20W also made me want the 30W that much more

 

[VapieDan]

I am starting to think we low wattage cool vapers are being left in the dust. What wattage range next? 20-60 watts? Argh!

 

[yzer]

I'm enjoying my nic juice at 7W. Can't understand why anyone would want 20-30W.

 

[mute42]

I'm enjoying my nic juice at 7W. Can't understand why anyone would want 20-30W.

Having more than one coil needs more Watts to get the same Voltage to each coil. From your example it would is something like: 1 Coil - 7 Watts, 2 Coils - 14 Watts, 3 Coils - 21 Watts, 4 Coils - 28 Watts.

Example:
Protank - 1 Coil - 7 Watts
Protank 3 - 2 Coils - 14 Watts

Personally I've gone up to 3/4 Coils with rebuildables but I have to use those on a Mechanical to get a flavorful Vape.

Hope this helped

BTW,
Ordered a TMAX V5 to replace a Groove with an intermittent button and if I like it I'll be ordering a ZMAX to replace a VAMO V3 with stripped 510 connector

 

[pnut599]

Welcome to the group pnut and hope you like the V3!

You can use either button top or flat top batteries in the V3 and V5. I prefer flat top IMR batteries and use mostly the Efest V1 IMR 18500. I also use 18650 a lot at home. Once in a while I use 18350 if I want the Sigelei V3 at it's smallest length.

For Efest IMR the V1 is the flat top and V2 is button top. The only difference between the two is that the positive terminal connection is about 1 mm taller on the button tops.

I usually buy Efest IMR at Crystal Clear Vaping. The flat top V1 cost less.
Efest Batteries

AW is another good IMR brand. These will perform better than the Efests at the upper wattage range of the Sigelei. I vape around 7.0 watts and find the Efest IMRs to be my best buy.
Genuine AW Batteries at RTD Vapor

I hear that some mods can not use flat top batteries. The Provari is the only one I know of. Maybe the Provari uses a mechanical fitting for button tops to achieve reverse battery protection. Sigelei doesn't need to as it uses electronics for reverse battery protection. I have no plans on buying a Provari in the future so I take advantage of flat top batts.

Thanks Yzer. I'm stalking the mailwoman........again (she's used it now lol)
Thanks for the explanation yzer. I appreciate it. I also saw the next post with the link to the other battery. I am with you on the higher wattage thing. I'm happy using my MVP no higher than 9 watts. Mute42 explanation at #1425 is great to understand why you would need higher watts. Thanks Mute42!! I know I do like the capacity of the MVP. Not having to worry about charging it for 2 days. Can't beat that. So, the time they last is most important to me now. I saw you explained that too and I think it was also you that posted the chart. I don't exactly know how to read it, but I didn't spend a ton of time on it yet either.

I like nailz purchase at 101. I would love to get those. Is there anything I should be concerned about with the 35amp? I'm trying hard to understand the volts, amps and watts thing and am a little scared because I've my lack of understanding. This whole thread is great info.

 

[VapieDan]

I'm enjoying my nic juice at 7W. Can't understand why anyone would want 20-30W.

It appears there are two of us!

 

[JeremyR]

Using stacked 18350s will last 60% longer than 18650. If you use coils above 2.3 ohms you may want a to stick with a single bat because the wire is usually smaller/higher gauge on those; the stacked will get the coil too hot and burn your juice in my experience. The stacked 18350 pulses at 7.8v in my nonscientific tests. Below 2.3ohm the stacked seems to be fine and lasts easily almost twice as long as a single 18650 when vaping 1.5 ohm; and give full range of power.

Higher wattage is for sub ohm builds which have a different heating characteristic from the thick heavy gauge wire. Many say sub ohm at 20w is a cooler, massive vape.. A 3ohm of 32g actually burns hotter than a 28g at 2ohms IME.

 

[vapnstuff]

I'm enjoying my nic juice at 7W. Can't understand why anyone would want 20-30W.

It appears there are two of us!

I ran my Sigelei up to 13 W one time, and one time only [must have pushed the buttons too quickly too many times]. What a nasty taste. Don't like burnt juice ... don't like it, don't like it, don't like it! so I too run mine between 6 and 7.5 W and that's just fine with me.

 

[JeremyR]

It all depends on your coil and wicking ability.

 

[pnut599]

So it is safe to say stacking 350's is safe? I love the idea of 60% more life. Should those be exactly the same rating in every way?

My usual vaping style is that when I rebulid single coils they are around 2 ohms and vape between 7-9 watts. I get my nic and I'm happy.

Sorry if I'm getting off the Zmax thread title. I usually just read, but I hoped I could ask.

 

[MotherNatural]

Sig zmax #2 finally arrived today after bouncing around the entire country for 8 days. The plan is to keep a 18350 in it so it's ready to grab n go. Woohoo!

 

[lulu836]

Stacking batteries is NOT a good idea. If you insist on doing that be sure that the two batteries you are stacking are always charged together and always used together. Unless you decide you need to join the latest dangerous craze of chasing vape clouds there is no sane reason to risk stacking. This too shall pass.

 

[JeremyR]

Zmax, vamo &c many be others only reach thier rated output using stacked 350s. This is By design.
This is a regulated device:... Use only Imr bats and label pairs to use as one, same exact battery. If not Brand new final charge voltage should be tested ands match, they should be tested regularly with meter for equal voltage at end of charger cycle.. I would venture to say stacked imr are safer than single non safe chemistry battery

The stacked do put out more pwr so you may need to go down to 5-6 watts.

 

[VapieDan]

If you do stack make certain you keep the two used as a matched pair. Charge and use them together. Batteries used together "Marry" and should continue to be used only with each other.