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Not a Mech - moved to VV/VWApv Discussion
It's not a true mech mod and its not a true regulated mod, either. It's a quasi-variable voltage mod, a grey area between a mech and a regulated mod.
you forgot the word 'NOT'...
at least, I think you forgot it...
Good Catch Asbestos. Kinda puts a whole Different Spin on things without it.
It's a protected mech mod. Has circuitry to prevent from inserting batteries the wrong way, won't fire below certain ohms and has an on off switch and potentiometer. It's still a mech in the sense it doesn't give you a steady volt output.
ok ok. no more jokes. We are all serious people here.
Nice description, Susaz. If it were a true regulated mod, the coil resistance used on the HexOhm3 would be irrelevant. Since coil resistance plays a huge part in the way the HexOhm3 functions, its more of a mech mod than a regulated mod IMHO.
I've read that the HexOhm3 is in that "grey area" between a mech and a regulated mod...a quasi-variable voltage mod.
I'd call a potentiometer an extremely limited way to adjust voltage output. How much difference can it make? 1 - 2 volts max? And since it can't regulate that voltage to remain steady during the course of battery use from full charge to discharge, its not a regulated mod.
Technically, in the strictest description of a mechanical mod, there can be no electrical circuitry.
Technically, in the strictest description of a regulated mod, it must have electrical circuity that actually regulates the battery output set by the user to remain the same throughout the charge status of the battery, and to have a full set of protection circuitry.
The HexOhm3 does not fit into either of the above categories.
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I know exactly what the hexohm 3.0 is and isn't.
I've owned & used 2.
This thread was originally posted in the "Mech mods" subforum, the description for the topics appropriate for the 'mech mod' forum state;
" All-mechanical devices with no wiring "
It is right there under the title of the forum...
A mechanical has no protections, no mosfet, no potentiometer, no board, no on off switch, no wiring.
The hexoxhm 3.0 uses a proprietary hex-t/30-c board, it is not PWM, the board does buck voltage from 8.4v to 6v which then is regulated to a user defined setting via the potentiometer.
The potentiometer adjusts output voltage from 3.27v ~ 6.05v with its dial 0 to 100 settings.
It does provide " steady volt output ".
The only time it wouldn't provide steady output is when the cells are drained below 3v each.
It is listed by the manufacturer as a regulated device, the protections are basic & crude.
I'm failing to understand why you quoted my response, took it out of context, then attempted to correct my statement with false info.
There is no such thing as a " protected mech mod " or a "mech mod" with circuitry.
Thank you Topwater. I stand corrected, as I trust your information as being fact based. I had based my earlier conclusions from different threads from multiple forums concerning the HexOhm3. My confusion for the most part was in not understanding how a potentiator works as a regulator.
So it is, in fact, a regulated variable voltage mod.
So it is, in fact, a regulated variable voltage mod.
What Sub-Forum a person seeking answers posts to is Not all that Relevant to me.
What Does Seem Relevant when people are talking about Battery Amp Draw is does the Mod obey Ohm's Law? Or does it obey Watts Law?
What Does Seem Relevant when people are talking about Battery Amp Draw is does the Mod obey Ohm's Law? Or does it obey Watts Law?
It could be I guess, although if I owned some weird hybrid of a mech that wasn't quite one but capable of some powerful action, the last type of personality I'd want it to have would be, "Free spirited." I'd prefer a "dour and precise, type of vibe.
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You beat me Top.
Here's another video explaining the chip even though Top already eloquently explained it.
Good question. Here we go again.....
Even though I have seen e-Cigarettes evolve from Primitive Devices that a new user today would Laugh at, in some ways the e-Cigarette market is still in it's infancy.
Why wouldn't the OEM of one of these Quasi-Mech/Quasi-Regulated Devices Clearly State on the Instruction Material how the User is supposed to Calculate Amp Draw at the Battery?
And why Must User's have to come to the ECF to find Answers about how their Build Effects (or Doesn't Effect) the potential of Exceeding the Amp Rating of the Battery they are Using?
Great point...
Some folks are confusing the hexohm 3.0 sometimes referred to as V3 with other hexohm boxes and or any one of the various hexohm clones including hexohm v3 clones.
The 3.0 / V3 is the only one claiming to be regulated with protections.
It 'should' fall under watts law, but, due to crude basic protections that can be worked around / bypassed / defeated in some cases, or not work as they should, or wouldn't be considered reliable or complete in comparison to most semi decent fully protected regulated power devices.
It is wise / safest to calculate amp draw as if it were an unprotected power source / ohm law.
Sure the limited basic protections function most of the time, but, not always, not in every situation.
When I contribute to a thread I usually try to stress safety over power, gizmo or cool factor.
Sometime I may go overboard, I won't apologize for that, sue me.
Just a guess, why wouldn't OEM of one of these QuasiMech/Quasi-Regulated Devices Cleary state anything clearly.
To paraphrase from a movie;
" Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of poo. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for now, for your customer's sake, for your daughter's sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality product."
$24 worth of materials cobbled together that flies off the shelf for $140+, sold as ' for advanced users only ' draws some folks like a moth to flame.
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I couldn't agree more with you. If I'm not mistaken, the HexOhm3 doesn't even come with any kind of instruction manual and no such info can be found on the website. And from what I've been able to come across in my limited research on different e-cig forums, there's not much agreement on how to classify the HexOhm3 or how different build effects affect the performance or safey of the device.
My biggest pet peeve are the mechanical tube mod manufacturers who don't include any vent holes in their devices. I mean, don't they realize that they are making potential pipe bombs?
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