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Ephraim Cooper

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The hex ohm is great if you know how to use it.
I havnt had any issues. Ot just heats up slower then the Paranormal. But I also have cheap rewrapped batteries that Mooch only rates at 27 amps. Im getting Samsung 20S in the mail today. They r true 30amp batteries with 2000mah Mooch says. Do u have any advice on the Hex Ohm? I keep my potentiometer all full power.
 
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I havnt had any issues. Ot just heats up slower then the Paranormal. But I also have cheap rewrapped batteries that Mooch only rates at 27 amps. Im getting Samsung 20S in the mail today. They r true 30amp batteries with 2000mah Mooch says. Do u have any advice on the Hex Ohm? I keep my potentiometer all full power.
At 17 amps I meant. The cheap batteries r 17 amps.
 

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Hard to help if you obviously don't read the replies, help, advice & links you've been given in several of your threads on the same basic topics.
All of this has been asked, answered & explained over & over & over in any one of the many other threads you've started.
Slightly rephrasing your questions & posting them in a different forums / subforums won't change the answers, all it is doing is further confusing you.

If you don't understand the advice, simply ask questions that will help clarify what it is you don't understand.
 

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the coils heating up slower then the paranormal has nothing to do with your batteries. It has everything to do with the actual coils that you are using.
I figured that. But I still feel better about getting brand name reputable batteries. Im using 28×2+38 nichrome fused claptons 9 wrap on a 3mm. The Paranormal heats them just fine at 80 watts boost. 100 watts without boost. It just seems to be a more powerful device.
 
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I figured that. But I still feel better about getting brand name reputable batteries. Im using 28×2+38 nichrome fused claptons 9 wrap on a 3mm. The Paranormal heats them just fine at 80 watts boost. 100 watts without boost. It just seems to be a more powerful device.

It's really not. The paranormal can put out about 150-160 safely into any coil and maybe 200 if you're feeling dangerous. It might melt the coil but it will do it.
The hex ohm can only put out maximum output into an optimized coil resistance and ramp up time is dedicated only by the coil mass.
 

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I havnt had any issues. Ot just heats up slower then the Paranormal. But I also have cheap rewrapped batteries that Mooch only rates at 27 amps. Im getting Samsung 20S in the mail today. They r true 30amp batteries with 2000mah Mooch says. Do u have any advice on the Hex Ohm? I keep my potentiometer all full power.
The slow heat up time is a fault of your build, not your batteries. Even with the best 18650s you will have slow ramp up because your coils are so large.
 

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Im sure theres a good reason. I just know I like the Paranormal better.

Not at all surprising...
Set the DNA device to 100 watts the coils get 100w every single time you press the button.
Set the Hexoxhm potentiometer to full power the coils get 6v max which = 89w at most.
6v / .403Ω = 89w
The reason it heats slower is 2 9 wrap high mass coils take more power than the hexoxhm can provide, because it is limited to 6v output.

Of course thats been explained to you a dozen or so times too.
 
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Why would the OP like a triade when he already has a power device that uses the DNA 250C?

Not being rude, and doesn't understand how to use the DNA 250c he already owns.

On top of that, this thread is in the "Mech mods" sub forum, what does any of this have to do with a mechanical?
The hexoxhm V3 is not a mechanical, DNA power devices are certainly not, no where close to, not even in the same zip code as a mechanical.
 
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Ephraim Cooper

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Not all all surprising...
Set the DNA device to 100 watts the coils get 100w every single time you press the button.
Set the Hexoxhm potentiometer to full power the coils get 6v max which = 89w at most.
6v / .403Ω = 89w
The reason it heats slower is 2 9 wrap high mass coils take more power than the hexoxhm can provide, because it is limited to 6v output.

Of course thats been explained to you a dozen or so times too.
I know. I bought the Hex Ohm cause the vape shop told me it was the most powerful. Unfortunately its not. Im still reading up on Ohms law. Give me some time Ill get it. I found the calculator link online someone sent me. Im learning how to use it as we speak. Ill get there.
 

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Im sure theres a good reason. I just know I like the Paranormal better.
The HexOhm3 would hit just as hard as the Paranormal if you used a more reasonable coil resistance. You're using coils with lot of metal mass and a lower resistance ----> which requires more power than the HexOhm can deliver safely and takes much longer to heat up.

If you would use a higher resistance coil with less metal (thinner wire and no fancy Claptons) to heat up, the HexOhm3 would should get similar performance as the Paranormal. But you're being stubborn and saying you like the "build" of your coils and not willing to change it to something more reasonable. So, you're going to be disappointed with the HexOhm3 because you're not willing change and to use it efficiently.
 
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If it’s an 18650, there is no such thing as a 30A CDR cell so far. Always check CDR when choosing batteries for mechs and I’ll take Mooch’s word over the manufacturer as they put the pulse discharge on the wraps. As for voltage, always calculate at 3.7 as the 4.2 will never reach the coils due to voltage drop of the mod and deck. And yes, a good understanding of ohms law is essential to be safe.

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In my opinion, it’s better for someone relatively new to doing so to perform Ohm’s Law calculations with a cell rated at 4.2 vDC to always assume a value of “V” to be 4.2 vDC.

I understand why you state 3.7, but for the new folks, assuming 4.2 is simply another safety factor :)
 

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In my opinion, it’s better for someone relatively new to doing so to perform Ohm’s Law calculations with a cell rated at 4.2 vDC to always assume a value of “V” to be 4.2 vDC.

I understand why you state 3.7, but for the new folks, assuming 4.2 is simply another safety factor :)

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The HexOhm3 would hit just as hard and just as fast as the Paranormal if you used a more reasonable coil resistance. You're using coils with lot of metal mass and a lower resistance ----> which requires more power and takes much longer to heat up.

If you would use a higher resistance coil with less metal to heat up, the HexOhm3 would probably perform as well as the Paranormal. But you're being stubborn and saying you like the "build" of your coils and not willing to change it to something more reasonable. So, you're going to be disappointed with the HexOhm3 because you're not willing to use it efficiently.
My build gives me tremendous flavor and vapor. Now that I have the Paranormal theres no reason to change it. I just use the Paranormal at 80 watts boost. The battery lasts longer in it to.
 
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My build gives me tremendous flavor and vapor. Now that I have the Paranormal theres no reason to change it. I just use the Paranormal at 80 watts boost. The battery lasts longer in it to.
You missed my point. My point was if you were using a different, more energy-efficient build in the HexOhm3 you'd get similar satisfaction (flavor and vapor and less ramp up time) to the Paranormal.

One needs to understand the limits of their battery device, the limits of different coil builds, the limits of their battery. The trick to finding what works best for each setup, how all the factors involved combine for the most optimum vape. This means learning to understand how Ohm's Law (mechanical mod) or Watts Law (regulated mod) works with each setup. So far, you seem to be refusing advice on how to best use your HexOhm. By not learning how to best use your HexOhm, yeah, the money you spent on it could be considered your waste.
 
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