Smok XPro M80 Plus - new version, v6 firmware: temperature control testing results
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Glad it's working!
Out of interest, when it wasn't working, what did it actually do when you held the fire button? Literally nothing? Or did anything change/appear on screen when fire was held down?
Out of interest, when it wasn't working, what did it actually do when you held the fire button? Literally nothing? Or did anything change/appear on screen when fire was held down?
Haha sorry man, it was just locked
five clicks on fire to lock and unlock. I thought it said 'locked' As well as showing the clock so it couldn't be that Glad you didn't throw it across the room in disgust!
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I went through this too, yesterday, but I didn't like to admit it to anyone when I figured it outHaha sorry man, it was just locked
Glad you didn't throw it across the room in disgust!
Okay. So I'll stick with it for a little while, play with it a bit. I'm just a little disappointed to hear so many problems with what is going to be my first mod. I was hoping this was going to be a device I could learn to build on and grow with as a vaper. Guess I'll have to spend some more...
Hey, it is a great mod, 80w and everything works great except for tc which 99% of mods out there don't even bother with anyway. Mine works great except that I have a slightly bent 510 connector which affects the look of it and nothing else and it seems mine is a pretty much isolated case. For the price point, you'll be hard pushed to beat this for a first mod (assuming it stands the test of time). Despite my moaning for £45 I am well pleased with my purchase.......I've just spent £190 on a Vaporshark rdna 40 + sharkskin + wireless charger + Ni200 coils and, this afternoon, the screen started screwing up when using the nickel coils........now that is an expensive bummer
Yeah really, you'll be fine Raptor!
I had no idea this was literally your first mod. What have you been using up until now? eGo batteries + cartomizers?
Seriously, you're going to be so blown away by the whole real vaping experience you're not even going to spend a second thinking about how the up/down button on the watts is a bit annoying to use. If you'd not found this thread (and others like it), you probably wouldn't even think about half these things.
I've had mine a few days now and it shows every sign of being a decent, reliable day-to-day machine. It has some annoyances compared to my iStick, but it also does 30 more watts. If this had been my first device I would have been really pleased. Part of my disappointment, if you can even call it that, is that naturally one wants a second device to be an upgrade, not a lateral or downwards move - and so far I've not really vaped above 50W at all and if I'm honest with myself, it's quite likely I rarely will. So the one big advantage of this device over my first is perhaps one I won't use much.
But as a first mod, it'd be a whole different story. And it's great to have a first mod with a good range, because presumably you're not yet sure exactly what kinds of coils and resistances you'll like and therefore what watts you'll want to use. So it's great that your first device will give you the range to try different levels. Maybe it'll turn out that you love vaping at 70 or 80W and low resistances, and that's something you can test for and discover because you have a device that can do it already.
Then if/when you get a second device, you'll know what features and range matter to you most.
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On second thoughts, perhaps it would be better if you didn't get on with this mod......not long ago, I was in your position.........and now I'm just obsessed, I buy everything. I was poor when I started and now I'm virtually destitute........but not to worry, my budget just about ran too a nice bottle of vintage Scottish wine so I'm now in my element.......good vape, Scottish wine and online poker.........if I return to this forum later, forgive me or at least ignore me as I will be talking ....****
Yeah, mostly. I'm using a Vision Spinner II with some cheap clearos using the Aspire 2.1ohm BVCs. I was really going the ohm reader in it would be acceptable, as I was wanting to get into building coils, and I don't really have the money for a real fancy ohm reader, and I'm pretty sure the one I got for $10 off Amazon is going to be insufficient as well as inaccurate. And that's a number because I just bought a couple of RDAs that I was hoping I could use with this mod. Maybe I should just get a Nautilus or an Arctic or something.
I think you're getting a bit paranoid. I bought an ohm meter on Amazon for £6.99 and it's bang on and as for rba's, yes, it's all about trial and error but this device would be just the job for them. Apart from the TC fiasco, the chip is solid and accurate
Wow. Im really digging it.
Possibly it was locked out of the box lol.
Its chucking some vapor at 70 watts with the mutationX v3. If the 510 is off its very minimal.
Its quite a little brick. A little wider than the istick, but feels ok in my hand. I really dig the all black. So far as a 80 watt mod I love it. Hit the button and fires instantly. Plus and minus buttons rattle very little. Fire button gives a nice click when pushed, otherwise nice and stiff. Not worried about the temperature control. This cost me just about what my istick did.
If I'm a little paranoid is just because I want to be safe. I still don't fully know what I'm doing, but I'm learning more every day. If the TC is the only glaring problem with this mod, then I'm totally cool with it.
Now then. A question. What is the actual relationship between ohms and watts? How do they affect one another?
Now then. A question. What is the actual relationship between ohms and watts? How do they affect one another?
I am writing a book about vaping for the beginner at the moment but it is about 3 weeks away from publication (Amazon digital download)....sorry about the plug however, if you are planning on building coils, buy yourself some kanthal wire (I would recommend AWG 28 (Google it) to start with), some needle nosed plyers, a mini blow torch and a a coil wrapping gauge, then visit this site Coil wrapping | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators and input your figures and it will tell you exactly what you want to know so that you can build your coil. Also google about how to build a coil......the reason that I am writing a book about this is that when I was learning, I found that all the relevant information was littered about the net here, there and everywhere, so I thought that it might be a good idea to put it all in one place.
I am writing a book about vaping for the beginner at the moment but it is about 3 weeks away from publication (Amazon digital download)....sorry about the plug however, if you are planning on building coils, buy yourself some kanthal wire (I would recommend AWG 28 (Google it) to start with), some needle nosed plyers, a mini blow torch and a a coil wrapping gauge, then visit this site Coil wrapping | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators and input your figures and it will tell you exactly what you want to know so that you can build your coil. Also google about how to build a coil......the reason that I am writing a book about this is that when I was learning, I found that all the relevant information was littered about the net here, there and everywhere, so I thought that it might be a good idea to put it all in one place.
I've got all that stuff, aside from a torch. What I really want to know is: how do I know what settings I want watt/volt/ohm-wise?
I'm really sorry, as I mentioned earlier, It's my drinking night tonight. The rest of the week, I'm at my desk writing and can be here to help you or others in any way that I can. Please pm me, or contact me on here, and I will do my utmost to answer anything that you need to know. I am planning to start a blog for beginner assistance very soon but, in the mean time, I am here but right now, full of the Scottish wine unfortunately
That's a bit of a large question for a mod thread like this. My advice is to watch a bunch (more) Youtube videos - there's a guy called Pegasus Academy who did a good line in intro videos on stuff like coil and ohm basics. And there will be hundreds of others along those lines. And/or, go to the New Members or general forum here, and do some searching/posting.
Things are simpler when you're using a regulated mod, because you can follow a simple rule: start with the watts quite low, and then increase until you find the most enjoyable vape, and then stop. E.g start at 15W.
As for what ohms to build your coils at, start at 1ohm and then try a bit higher and a bit lower, again until you find levels that you like. You'll find the lower the ohms, the higher the watts you need. And you'll also notice that the volts is a product of ohms and watts, e.g. 5 volts into 1 ohm will be 25 watts, but into 2 ohm would be 12.5 watts.
Or the other way around: setting 25 watts into 1 ohm will fire 5 volts and so will setting 12.5 watts into 2 ohm.
The M80 is only a VW (variable wattage) device, not VV (variable voltage), so you can only set the watts. Which is fine in my view - my iStick is both VW and VV, but I've never once used the VV mode. I think that's more for people who use(d to) mech mods and are familiar with a particular volt setting at a particular ohms level.
Anyway, there's a wealth of info out there on Youtube and in the forums, I suggest watching a bunch of intro videos and you'll pick it up in no time.
Oh, one last thing: I'd recommend getting at least one simple tank. Like the Kanger Subtank Mini, Aspire Atlantis, or the Smok VCT. They come with pre-built coils that you can just throw in there and vape. They'll tell you what wattage to use for them - e.g. Subtank Mini 0.5 ohm coil might say "15 - 30W". That will ensure you can be vaping within 10 minutes of your mod arriving, with no risk, hassle or worry. Start it at 15W, and increase to taste (but not going much over the maximum they list - a little is usually OK.)
If you get the Subtank Mini it comes with a mini RBA deck so you can also use it as a rebuildable, throwing your own coils in there. The Smok VCT has a separate "DIY head" which is its version of the RBA rebuildable.
The Subtank Mini is a better tank, but the Smok VCT is cheaper (though less so if you also purchase the separate DIY deck.)
Actually in your case I'd definitely recommend the Subtank Mini. It comes with two coils at different ohms - a 0.5 and a 1.2. So you can see the difference immediately. The Smok VCT also comes with two coils, but you'll get either 2 x 0.5 or 2 x 1.2, depending which option you choose, so you won't be able to try different ohms and see the difference.
Also the Smok VCT's cheaper build quality can get a bit annoying - sometimes it gets jammed shut, and it's a lot more likely to leak. So start with the Subtank Mini in my view. (Or the new Subtank Plus looks very nice, taking 7ml of juice and coming with 2 RBA decks instead of one. But it's more expensive, and it's 25mm so it will overhang the mod a bit.)
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Excellent, really glad you're enjoying it!
Yeah I wish I'd got the black now, especially as I just got the Lemo RTA in black which would have looked nice. I'm going off stainless a bit now, I have so much steel coloured stuff now! Though my iStick is actually blue, and that's my favourite looking vaping thing I own at the moment - it's a really nice shade of blue. I ordered my Vapor Flask DNA 40 clone in black, so actually for mods I only have/will have 33% in silver. It's just my tanks/attys that are nearly all silver - the Lemo RTA being the only exception currently!
Anyway glad you've got a great first impression (well, second
) !Oh and I partially take back what I said earlier about not using the M80 for ohms reading. I was just putting some new coils in my Aqua V2 and I primarily used the Smok, and I liked having two digit ohms reading. So I can use it sometimes. But I still had to switch to the iStick at the end, when I was screwing on the chimney, because I was worried that my coils might be sticking out too much and shorting - and sure enough when I put it on the iStick, it showed 0.3 ohms instead of 0.8.
I think it might be possible to get the Smok to read the new ohms without actually firing - holding the fire just enough to light the display then immediately stopping - but it's not something I want to try often, if at all.
Actually, out of all the stuff with the Smok, that's the thing that really annoys me. Don't care about the TC. Difficult 510 I can work around. Rattly fire button, who cares. Silly up/down speeds, I'll get used to. But the non-live ohms reading I am really ...... about, and I cannot understand why they screwed up such a basic thing. It's not like it's unusual in cheap devices these days. I think that if the Smok had that, I would probably end up using it day to day more than the iStick, even though it's slightly bigger and with its other annoyances. But I really like seeing those ohms live, especially when building but also the rest of the time too - it's just so useful.
Oh well, it is what it is! Glad you're pleased with yours, anyway. I will certainly be using mine daily - having two mods is so much better; for one thing, I can now happily drain each mod completely to empty and then let it full charge, without ever pass-through vaping, and so keep my batteries as healthy as possible!
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