Smoktech Dual Coil Cartomizers

[Mudflap]

I tried them and they're pretty good for a carto. I think the vapor I get from CE2's and attys tastes better, but the utility and convenience offered by the XL dual coils is perfect for grab & go vaping when you don't wanna be bothered to stop and fiddle with your PV. Also, I like a few 100% VG juices that do not play nice with these cartos. The draw gets too tight before I've vaped away the first fill.

Still, this is nice addition to my PV tool belt.

 

[Stabbie]

What resistance Boge 510 were you using? I'm using 2.0 Ohm. The Boge 2.0 definitely seems hotter than the Smoktech but I prefer a cooler vape. I'm still waiting for the flavor to come through to compare.

Ah...ya know what? The Evilgnome just made me realize why I wasn't loving my Boge 510s on my 3.7 ego battery.
I ordered the high performance Boge 510s from CoV in preparation to try on my incoming 5V GLV-2.
No wonder the dual coils perform so much better on 3.7.
/sigh

 

[JD1]

Ah...ya know what? The Evilgnome just made me realize why I wasn't loving my Boge 510s on my 3.7 ego battery.
I ordered the high performance Boge 510s from CoV in preparation to try on my incoming 5V GLV-2.
No wonder the dual coils perform so much better on 3.7.
/sigh

Don't forget that you can use the button as a heat controller. I usually take about five second draws. If I'm using my 5v PT and a 2.8 ohm ce2, I hit the button for about two seconds. Of course, my lips are on the carto, as I pull the plugs and toss them, then direct drip. Since the coil is at the top, two seconds of heat is plenty for me. I like relatively cool, dry vapor. (dry??? what an odd choice of words to describe vapor. lol I'm sure there's a better one, but it's all I can think off at the moment.)

 

[Katya]

Ah...ya know what? The Evilgnome just made me realize why I wasn't loving my Boge 510s on my 3.7 ego battery.
I ordered the high performance Boge 510s from CoV in preparation to try on my incoming 5V GLV-2.
No wonder the dual coils perform so much better on 3.7.
/sigh

Stabbie, your eGo batteries are ~3.1-3.2v at best. Just for the record. The 2.0Ω Boges work great with them.

I find that dual-coil cartos work much better on 3.7v, for some reason, although on paper it makes no sense, as they are 1.5Ω.

 

[JD1]

Stabbie, your eGo batteries are ~3.1-3.2v at best. Just for the record. The 2.0Ω Boges work great with them.

I find that dual-coil cartos work much better on 3.7v, for some reason, although on paper it makes no sense, as they are 1.5Ω.

It's the current or amps that does the work and the duel coils split the current. There is also some space between them so that you're getting vapor from two sources that are not as hot as they would be if you were pushing that much current though one of them. Also with some of the regulated batts such as the ego, the current is pulsed to the load so that you're not getting the full amount of current that ohm's law would tell you. Or at least that's my understanding of the matter. (could be wrong. lol)

 

[Katya]

It's the current or amps that does the work and the duel coils split the current. There is also some space between them so that you're getting vapor from two sources that are not as hot as they would be if you were pushing that much current though one of them. Also with some of the regulated batts such as the ego, the current is pulsed to the load so that you're not getting the full amount of current that ohm's law would tell you. Or at least that's my understanding of the matter. (could be wrong. lol)

Those dual-coil cartos are an oddity. With one-coil atties, it's all about wattage [Power = Voltage squared divided by Resistance]. However, those dualies behave differently, for some reason. Here's an interesting discussion (just skip the OT posts):

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ikenvape/183070-dual-coil-3.html#post3112040

 

[Stabbie]

My Boge 510s are the 3.0 ohm from CoV. Not the '2.0's.

Why do I always forget to write some important little bit of info??

 

[Stownz]

Its the huge surface area for vaporizing the liquid. They are 2 3.2 ohm coils wired together. We all already know the difference in vaping a LR @ 3.7 volts and a HR at 6 volts. Even though the wattage can come out the same, there is a difference in how they perform. It's the surface area. Higher ohm coils have more wraps around the wick=greater surface area for the liquid to vaporize on. Now multiply that effect x2. You have a TON more surface area, and two different spots for the juice to wick from. The heat is spread out, the juice intake is spread out. Thats how I finnaly figured out how you can slam such a serious amount of volts into these things with no burn--- its all spread out across the greater surface area.

But also, its even more important to make sure they a full, especially on that first burn. People have always had problems filling cartos right, especially new users. On the old single coils, if you didnt fill and you burned on the first time, you would never get that burned taste out and it was toast. Some designs you would burn the filler also. Make sure you fill the bottom if your not exactly sure how to completely fill from the top-- takes a long time to top fill and brand new one. Even longer with heavy thick high VG juice. Take the time to fill the right, and you won't have a problem.

Condom fill from the bottom.
Drip fill the top.
Let sit for a few minutes.
Enjoy.

 

[Katya]

My Boge 510s are the 3.0 ohm from CoV. Not the '2.0's.

Why do I always forget to write some important little bit of info??

Yeah, that explains it. The 3.0Ω Boges are not very good on the eGo class batteries. But they are nice on higher voltages.

 

[earthpig]

Stownz
Good assessment on how they wick up, and work.

I know many bottom feed carto's. I never liked doing so because of the clean up of the carto/battery attachment (especially on 808's). So I top fill and use straight VG, and correct it takes time. I drop 10 drops at a time. The fliud I use id carmel colored and you can see the batting whiten out, meaning it's time to continue. So I go 10 drops, wait a few minutes, it whitens up and hit it again. After 75 or so, it will still whiten some, and I've run one up to 80 drops (which flooded it).
Yeah it's a time factor, but it's how I fly. Considering I'm going to be using them for many weeks (it appears) the time is minimal.
I've been running one 4 weeks now (and no it's not my only vape), and I tap it up when it runs down ~ 10 drops or so. I don't want that top coil drying up.

To each their own method, but I suggest filling some from the top, just to get that top coil moist....even though, to date, I've never heard of anyone saying they burnt one of these babies.
I've dissected 2 so far and the batting was perfect...

Marinated Pork Chops

 

[emonty]

Got some from Hoosier, including the 1.25, loving them! Very fast delivery to the Netherlands (5 days) and great price on shipping!!!
The 1.5's I don't like so much on 3.7, but that is just my taste, the 1.25's on 3.7V perform better, still I think the 1.5's on 6.xV with the right juice (85%PG-15%VG, clear juice with no sugar essences) is superb!

 

[doots]

Its the huge surface area for vaporizing the liquid. They are 2 3.2 ohm coils wired together. We all already know the difference in vaping a LR @ 3.7 volts and a HR at 6 volts. Even though the wattage can come out the same, there is a difference in how they perform. It's the surface area. Higher ohm coils have more wraps around the wick=greater surface area for the liquid to vaporize on. Now multiply that effect x2. You have a TON more surface area, and two different spots for the juice to wick from. The heat is spread out, the juice intake is spread out. Thats how I finnaly figured out how you can slam such a serious amount of volts into these things with no burn--- its all spread out across the greater surface area.

But also, its even more important to make sure they a full, especially on that first burn. People have always had problems filling cartos right, especially new users. On the old single coils, if you didnt fill and you burned on the first time, you would never get that burned taste out and it was toast. Some designs you would burn the filler also. Make sure you fill the bottom if your not exactly sure how to completely fill from the top-- takes a long time to top fill and brand new one. Even longer with heavy thick high VG juice. Take the time to fill the right, and you won't have a problem.

Condom fill from the bottom.
Drip fill the top.
Let sit for a few minutes.
Enjoy.

this is exactly how I fill mine too and works every time with no problems. good post.

 

[thehangdude]

I just drip down the sides, from the mouth end. 10-15 drops at a time at first, 3-5 when it is almost full. When it starts to come out the bottom (threaded end) I blow it out (from mouth to threaded side). You should be able to see through it. This is also how I refill.

 

[ukeman]

I just got mine (5 pak) in from MadVapes (by the way, the Mad Grape juice is super good... i got a 5ml because i was wary of a good priced juice lol). " Dual Coil 510 Mega".... don't know what they are rated.

 

[ukeman]

I spec'd it on my Provari... resistance is 1.6 Ohm ! got E2 error code at 4.0 v... so i dropped it to 3.3 (minimal setting), and it's the monster vape you've all been talking about!!!

i put a Pyrex shorty on the tip and after filling from both sides, and just top off (dripping).

I just know this will work on my backup eGo (3.2 true voltage)...

Thanks all for the info on these ... best carto vape i've ever had, and could just be a whole lot easier than dripping... I wouldn't say that if the flavor or anything else would be diminished from my normal (dripping).
It's just incredible.... +2

 

[ukeman]

uh ohh.... E1 error... I think i blew the first one already.. E1 means shorted atty.
and that is with 3.3 volts!
Off to the eGo with the next one.

 

[JD1]

uh ohh.... E1 error... I think i blew the first one already.. E1 means shorted atty.
and that is with 3.3 volts!
Off to the eGo with the next one.

You may have just got a bad one. Six and a few others that have been using these for a while claim the quality control sucks dishwater. Lots of folks are reporting that a good one is hard to kill.

 

[Stownz]

uh ohh.... E1 error... I think i blew the first one already.. E1 means shorted atty.
and that is with 3.3 volts!
Off to the eGo with the next one.

E1 doesn't mean shorted all the time. The 1.4 ohm ones is about the lowest I have tried to go without popping errors on the provari. There is a thread going on the provape page talking about how we need to be able to push more amps... just for these dual coils. They will pull 3 amps at 4.5 volts on a 1.5 ohm one, that is a lot of amperage. 2.5 is the turn off point for the provari, to save the unit and usually save the atty/carto from dry burn nuke. Definately have to turn these down on the provari.

I'm not even sure if the 1.25 ohm ones can even be fired on the provari, anyone try yet?

 

[ukeman]

i haven't kept up on the specs of these... but the one's i have say " 1.5+ 0.2 Ohm "
... loading one up for the eGo...

E1 doesn't mean shorted all the time. The 1.4 ohm ones is about the lowest I have tried to go without popping errors on the provari. There is a thread going on the provape page talking about how we need to be able to push more amps... just for these dual coils. They will pull 3 amps at 4.5 volts on a 1.5 ohm one, that is a lot of amperage. 2.5 is the turn off point for the provari, to save the unit and usually save the atty/carto from dry burn nuke. Definately have to turn these down on the provari.

I'm not even sure if the 1.25 ohm ones can even be fired on the provari, anyone try yet?

 

[Stownz]

Can ohm them with the provari, it will tell yah 8)