Possibly... we don't know that for sure. Like I commented on the video, I've seen batteries get pretty mangled and not catch fire. I suspect the fault lies somewhere else.
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Possibly... we don't know that for sure. Like I commented on the video, I've seen batteries get pretty mangled and not catch fire. I suspect the fault lies somewhere else.
I think the flaws are obvious, and Smoktech have identified two flaws actually, which is why its being recalled. So yes, we do know because the video highlights one of those flaws.. Its easy to say you "suspect" the fault lies somewhere else - you're not saying anything by that really. Its obvious what the problem is - please read up on battery safety.
Neither are you by suggesting that I'm an idiot, not only once, but twice.
My concern here is that there is an obvious safety issue, and I am providing info about it. Those who have tested and recalled the Groove have admitted its flaws. Its not safe and it is a risk to send through the post. Owners have found the battery comes lose easily, it can vent with just a small drop or jolt, and it isn't worth some-one getting hurt.
We really need to put safety first here.
This is the kind of fault I was talking about.
(If you can't tell, the resistor shorted out to the unused and unshielded ground pin.)
Yes, the Groove suffering a meltdown is a serious issue, I'm just saying that all we have to go by right now is a few pictures, a video showing a slightly squished battery (which I maintain, is normal), and SMOKtech's word that they have a design flaw (or two). I just wish we had more to show us the what and why.
I wouldn't have gotten into vaping if I didn't think it was safe, most people would probably cringe at the thought of sticking a battery so close to their mouth.
But rather than continue posting in these threads, I think I'll just leave you guys to send your stuff back for replacement.
(If you can't tell, the resistor shorted out to the unused and unshielded ground pin.)
Yes, the Groove suffering a meltdown is a serious issue, I'm just saying that all we have to go by right now is a few pictures, a video showing a slightly squished battery (which I maintain, is normal), and SMOKtech's word that they have a design flaw (or two). I just wish we had more to show us the what and why.
I wouldn't have gotten into vaping if I didn't think it was safe, most people would probably cringe at the thought of sticking a battery so close to their mouth.
But rather than continue posting in these threads, I think I'll just leave you guys to send your stuff back for replacement.
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I'm not sending mine back - I'm not going to put postal workers and plane staff at risk. I don't need anymore info to see the "what and why" - I've seen it. That video also shows more than a "slightly squished battery" - the cover is pierced. They should have tested the thing and also seen that the metal screws can puncture the battery because it comes loose easily - inadequately secured, inadequately covered. Personally I don't need to know more than that to know that I won't use it and I won't mail it anywhere.
I wouldn't have gotten into vaping if I didn't think it was safe either. I expect we're all the same on that.
But you are not making a case here - the manufacturer has recalled the product because of the high risk. You're picture is interesting and also irrelevant. It has nothing to do with the Groove and the recall, and doesn't prove anything to do with the known Groove flaws. If it means you'd like more detail on what happened - that doesn't change the bigger issue, or what the flaws are, or that the mod is seriously risky. Smoktech have recalled it - thankfully no-one has been hurt, and I hope no-one is.
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Totally agree....but just posting this video link for informational purposes in case some have not seen it....seems pretty simple to just remove the screws in the center of the Groove for shipment back to the vendor....but that's just my opinion....
definitely my last post here but just wanted to pass along the video...
Chrome Groove by Smoktech - RECALL - Potentially Dangerous - YouTube
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That's the same video I posted a link to btw. Actually, its not that easy - if you watch the video through, she has some trouble with it, and says how it comes loose, then sticks, then comes loose... Also - when she does remove it she can see where the screws have punctured it from when it was loose and knocking against the metal casing (the reason she opens it in the first place).
So trying to remove it could actually cause a puncture also.
I think taking the Groove to a battery recycling/disposal centre, or the saltwater soak of the whole device would be the way. A good long soak.
Another problem - a different issue to that in away, is the vendors who won't allow a deactivated groove to be returned. They really need to think about that. I think they should just refund, and either accept a deactivated mod, or accept some proof of one - like a slip from a battery disposal place confirming receipt.
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Lol seriously? That is some serious %$@# right there. Poor USPS guys, i hope none of them explode, especially not if they are carrying my incoming vape mail =(
Yeah, its serious. The Groove battery is not meant to be removed. But the way its been attached inside the mod is not the best - it can get loose easily and bang against the metal casing, and the screws that come through the casing. Not sure if you know this so just giving a quick re-run.
So yes, when knocked or jolted the battery can go thermal. And unlike our replaceable batteries -e.g. our AW IMRs where we just unscrew the end cap on the mod and it comes out, the battery in the Groove does not remove so easily. Another issue being the plastic groove has to be broken apart to get into it. Mine does - and I'm not going to break it open and risk puncturing the battery.
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