SmokTech Telescope is air tight!

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Update: Smoktech is milling new bottom tubes with vents. Sending them to GotVapes. If you send in your bottom tubes you get a replacement and a $25 credit.

No mention of a redesigned switch with a workable HotSpring. I do think the HotSpring is important to prevent failures and the vents simply make a failure less worse.

I've sent Dan a PM asking him to push smok to redesign the switch and to include a working HotSpring.
 

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But, for what temperature and current do you design a hot spring?
To protect from a short circuit do yo design for the current of a pair of 16340 cells, or a high drain IMR 18650?

and if you don't pass current through the spring, what is the design temperature?

Just because you have one, will it work?

What are the advertised specifications of the hot springs in e-cigs? or is it HYPE?

Which of the mods in your avatar have hot springs?
 

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But, for what temperature and current do you design a hot spring?
To protect from a short circuit do yo design for the current of a pair of 16340 cells, or a high drain IMR 18650?

and if you don't pass current through the spring, what is the design temperature?

Just because you have one, will it work?

What are the advertised specifications of the hot springs in e-cigs? or is it HYPE?

Which of the mods in your avatar have hot springs?

I believe that is up to the Engineers to figure out. The hot spring would be connected to the switch button...it would no longer be holding up the battery. Other telescopic mod makers have managed to make it work...Smok should be able to also.

I'm on TapaTalk so I can't see very well what mods are in his avatar...but if they are Reos...the answer would be all of them I believe.
 
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I think I can speak for the rest of the coop members when I say that we can only aspire to some day achieve you level of superiority. We're all just humble vape-noobs who are truly thankful to have people like you to protect us from ourselves.

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Well,thank you :laugh:

That being said,it doesnt mean I cant voice my opinion when safety is concerned!
 

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What I want to know is, how can anyone who knows enough about electronic devices such that they could even design a mod (mechanical or otherwise), design something like this? Surely if they know enough to design a mod they know a thing or two about battery failures? How can this Chinese engineer knowingly design such a thing with no safety features for the sake of profit sleep at night?

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Thanks-I am just not one to take something only at someone's word when it seems I have a way to confirm or deny for myself.

What I would love and mentioned in the GV battery thread...if someone knew how to force a failure on a battery in one of these, I would chip in towards the cost. I want to know what happens when a battery vents or explodes in one. Explodes I think is pretty obvious, but venting...I'm curious. I just don't know how to make it happen. I am considering putting an 18650 in and taping the button down to see if it overheats and does anything.

Easy,solder the + and - on a carto connector and screw it on (duck for cover)
 

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Ok, so... ECF has always been all over the safety thing. I always assumed anything allowed by ECF would have passed their strict standards. No? I mean, if the thing demonstrably does not let air through any part, that's clear evidence that it is potentially extremely unsafe.

The other thing is: what is going to happen when one blows off somebody's mouth? Are we hoping that it doesn't get picked up by the media? Have the proper bribes already been made? Because it is going to take one hell of a fundraiser to keep the incident that is almost certainly going to happen from blowing up absolutely everything to do with PVs, including their legal status and reputation across the board. I don't know about the rest of ECF, but i'm kinda tired of defending PVs from misinformed smokers who constantly harangue me about how all PVs are ticking time bombs.
 

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What I want to know is, how can anyone who knows enough about electronic devices such that they could even design a mod (mechanical or otherwise), design something like this? Surely if they know enough to design a mod they know a thing or two about battery failures? How can this Chinese engineer knowingly design such a thing with no safety features for the sake of profit sleep at night?

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umm, how about the almighty $
 

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Something clearly went wrong at Smok...look at all their other APVs...they are all vented.

I wouldnt be surprised if they are subcontracting those and forgot about in-house QC (doubtfull) or something else happend.

Will we ever know,only the distributors that are in direct contact with them knows.

I dont see that staying w/o any kind of announcement,DC has to take place at some point.
 

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Personally I will never buy an APV without a hot spring. Provape has one, Silver Bullet has one, Helix has one. Reo Grand has one, the only devices I have that do not have them are Ego batteries. Even the little cheap small Gripper I got some time back has a hot spring in it.

Additionally, every APV I own has venting, some via drilled holes, some via the switch ( Silver Bullet and Helix ).

I know several people who have had hot springs collapse when something went amiss with an atty, carto or the switch itself. They had no damage to themselves. Gave me strong reinforcement every time to only use rechargeable batteries in a unit with a hot spring.
 

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umm, how about the almighty $

$$$ Old mighty has a vent hole in the bottom cap :),,,, along with about the safest chip set circuitry deign there is, and also the button is a 2nd vent hole :) so one on the bottom and one near the top = SAFE AS IT GETS, and a Hot spring to boot
 
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$$$ Old mighty has a vent hole in the bottom cap :),,,, along with about the safest chip set circuitry deign there is, and also the button is a 2nd vent hole :) so one on the bottom and one near the top = SAFE AS IT GETS, and a Hot spring to boot

We all have a vent hole at the bottom,so why not that Smok device :laugh:
 
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