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Yeah thats the clone one they had pictured. Thats messed up that there selling those to people, full price and everything. I wonder just how many people they got over on, and how many people dont know.

Hmm, if I remember correctly, that's what my tube looked like as well and I got mine from Planet of the Vapes - an authorized retailer. I need to double check when I get home.
 

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I bet most people don't know. They were one of the only dealers who had the original when it came out, so people are just going to assume everything that came from there is legit.
Exactly! They were there only seller in the beginning when i bought mine. Im sure everything will be worked out for you, epic seems like a pretty stand up company hopefully theres something that can be done.
 

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Hmm, if I remember correctly, that's what my tube looked like as well and I got mine from Planet of the Vapes - an authorized retailer. I need to double check when I get home.
Im just going by what epic told me, and what they had pictured. I know it sounds bad coming from 1 person, but i know what i saw and what they had said. They said they can tell by the tube it comes in and by the switch. Since they changed both and had once sold authentics the way people are pushing off clones looking like authentics this whole thing is sketchy and a pain.
 

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Im just going by what epic told me, and what they had pictured. I know it sounds bad coming from 1 person, but i know what i saw and what they had said. They said they can tell by the tube it comes in and by the switch. Since they changed both and had once sold authentics the way people are pushing off clones looking like authentics this whole thing is sketchy and a pain.

Indeed. I had contacted Epic through fb asking if PotV was an authorized retailer. They assured me that they were. I sure as hell hope I didn't pay $120 for a clone. I'll be :mad: as hell if I did and it doesn't get taken care of.
 

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Indeed. I had contacted Epic through fb asking if PotV was an authorized retailer. They assured me that they were. I sure as hell hope I didn't pay $120 for a clone. I'll be :mad: as hell if I did and it doesn't get taken care of.
Yeah i remember you telling me that a while back. This whole thing is making my head hurt lol it could really go either way. I hope for everyones sake im wrong and they are authentic.
 

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The Vapor Lair seems to have a pretty strong 'all sales final' policy. The mod itself doesn't seem like a clone to me except for the small burrs on the vent holes which wiped right off. I'm also having a tough time trying to figure out what's going on.

From Vapor Lair:

"All of our SMPL Mods are authentic and made in the U.S.A. We do not sell clones. Epic Designs Studios is no longer affiliated with The Vapor Lair and is now trying to give our company a bad reputation. We never have and never will sell clones.

If you are unhappy with your purchase. We will be more than happy to give you a full refund. "
 
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Alright, so after talking with The Vapor Lair I got some information. This is what I've got from them, Epic Design Studio hasn't shared any information.

But it seems like The Vapor Lair and EDS collaborated to make the SMPL mod. Because of that, TVL was the sole distributor of the mod. Then because the mod was doing so well, EDS started letting other stores sell the mod. This caused some issues between the two companies so they parted ways. Now EDS is trying to hurt TVL by telling people that their mod isn't authentic and to only buy it from their new partners. TVL is now collaborating with a different manufacturer and is coming out with a SMPL 2.0.

The drama is pretty ridiculous, but especially on EDS part. Telling people their mods aren't authentic because they bought them from a store they are angry with is bull..... I hope it isn't true, but that's the story I've been given so far.
 

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Alright, so after talking with The Vapor Lair I got some information. This is what I've got from them, Epic Design Studio hasn't shared any information.

But it seems like The Vapor Lair and EDS collaborated to make the SMPL mod. Because of that, TVL was the sole distributor of the mod. Then because the mod was doing so well, EDS started letting other stores sell the mod. This caused some issues between the two companies so they parted ways. Now EDS is trying to hurt TVL by telling people that their mod isn't authentic and to only buy it from their new partners. TVL is now collaborating with a different manufacturer and is coming out with a SMPL 2.0.

The drama is pretty ridiculous, but especially on EDS part. Telling people their mods aren't authentic because they bought them from a store they are angry with is bull..... I hope it isn't true, but that's the story I've been given so far.
Wow. That is pretty bad, i was only going by what i was told by epic so i apologize for that. Kinda puts me on the fence though, there may be truths on both sides ya know. Im not sure what to think anymore.
 

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Wow. That is pretty bad, i was only going by what i was told by epic so i apologize for that. Kinda puts me on the fence though, there may be truths on both sides ya know. Im not sure what to think anymore.

Yeah, there are definitely two sides to the story. I'd love to hear what EDS actually has to say and get their side.
 

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I got home yesterday and checked my mod tube (packaging). It's the same one that vern posted, plastic wrap inside the tube and all. I snapped a pic and sent EDS a fb message yesterda at 4:24 asking "Authentic or clone?". Still waiting on a response.

Prior to my purchase I had sent EDS a fb message asking if PotV was an authorized dealer. EDS responded that, in fact, they were. So I placed my order and ended up receiving the same exact packaging as vern.

Alright, so after talking with The Vapor Lair I got some information. This is what I've got from them, Epic Design Studio hasn't shared any information.

But it seems like The Vapor Lair and EDS collaborated to make the SMPL mod. Because of that, TVL was the sole distributor of the mod. Then because the mod was doing so well, EDS started letting other stores sell the mod. This caused some issues between the two companies so they parted ways. Now EDS is trying to hurt TVL by telling people that their mod isn't authentic and to only buy it from their new partners. TVL is now collaborating with a different manufacturer and is coming out with a SMPL 2.0.

The drama is pretty ridiculous, but especially on EDS part. Telling people their mods aren't authentic because they bought them from a store they are angry with is bull..... I hope it isn't true, but that's the story I've been given so far.

Thanks for that info vern! It now sounds like we both received authentic mods. I have to say, if what I have is a clone it has got to be the finest clone I have ever touched. It is perfect in every way. Mine had no burrs and the switch works flawlessly.
 

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I got home yesterday and checked my mod tube (packaging). It's the same one that vern posted, plastic wrap inside the tube and all. I snapped a pic and sent EDS a fb message yesterda at 4:24 asking "Authentic or clone?". Still waiting on a response.

Prior to my purchase I had sent EDS a fb message asking if PotV was an authorized dealer. EDS responded that, in fact, they were. So I placed my order and ended up receiving the same exact packaging as vern.



Thanks for that info vern! It now sounds like we both received authentic mods. I have to say, if what I have is a clone it has got to be the finest clone I have ever touched. It is perfect in every way. Mine had no burrs and the switch works flawlessly.
Thats kinda messed up though considering the drama they stirred up when they posted your exact tubes saying they were clones. You shoulda seen the swarm of people that commented on that pic. Now, that pic is nowhere to be found. Im starting to think that that pic is BS and thats what they want people to think. When i sent them a pic of my tube which was pictured to be authentic, they responded ASAP so who knows what the hell is going on with these companies. Ive never seen such drama in companies until i came into the vaping family.
 

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I guess they are not responding to me because I had fb messaged asking if PotV was authorized and then messaged them again after receiving it to determine if it was authentic. Since they said that TVL was selling clones with the same packaging as what I got from PotV, they are in a quandary now as to how to respond to me.

Yeah, it's actually quite pathetic and immature.
 

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I guess they are not responding to me because I had fb messaged asking if PotV was authorized and then messaged them again after receiving it to determine if it was authentic. Since they said that TVL was selling clones with the same packaging as what I got from PotV, they are in a quandary now as to how to respond to me.

Yeah, it's actually quite pathetic and immature.
Thats what i was thinking, as to why they havent responded maybe. At this point who knows whos telling the truth, and it sucks for the people who shelled out 120$ and are sitting here wondering if they are what they paid for or not. Who knows. I do hope for the best for you guys though.
 

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EDS removed all the discussion on their FB page about this. There were ton's of people who purchased from VL. I kind of gathered the owner of VL and the owner of EDS were partner's in this mod and went their separate ways.

That said, I have the Brass & Stainless authentics, and they are my favorite mods. Both were machined to perfection, buttery smooth buttons with the concave contact.
 
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