When did I laugh at murder and wars? I hate those things, nothing makes me more sad then seeing people, anyone, hurt. I"m a very sensitive person, and I detest violence of any kind.
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When did I laugh at murder and wars? I hate those things, nothing makes me more sad then seeing people, anyone, hurt. I"m a very sensitive person, and I detest violence of any kind.
I'm pretty sure VeeDubb was referring to when I said this in a previous post; I preach the 'message' of the 'Good News of Christ' and I don't 'water it down' with 'seeker Friendly' messages. You either receive it or you don't... and I promise I don't hate you or will launch a war or kill you for believing otherwise.... Islam however might. (lol)
I didn't say that because I think it's 'funny' as in ha-ha funny, but because I think it's 'funny' that People don't see the inherent 'danger' in fundamental Islam but perceive the truth of 'Salvation' through Christ Jesus alone as dangerous. That's what I find 'funny' and 'ironic' .. (lol)
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Whoa VeeDubb,
Here is a huge difference between Islam (Muslims) and Christianity. Islam believes that ALL infidels should be killed of they will not convert, and if some infidels are useful they are to be made into slaves. You can NEVER leave Islam, you are killed...period, end of story. It is perfectly acceptable for Muslims to lie to EVERYONE who is not Muslim because they are infidels and Islam is at war against and means to destroy everyone who is not Islam.
In no way, shape or form do Christians believe that all Muslims should be killed, or converted and if they are useful and remain Muslims they shall be put into slavery. If a Christian decides to change faiths is the family's duty to kill that person? NO. Does Christ promote lying to everyone who is not Christian? No.
So, please tell me exactly where is it Christians are to find common ground with Islam? I don't believe there is any.
Lisa, and Blondeambition you made good points and good posts. I do agree with you on the things you believe.
Kelly
In God We Trust
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Here is a huge difference between Islam (Muslims) and Christianity. Islam believes that ALL infidels should be killed of they will not convert, and if some infidels are useful they are to be made into slaves. You can NEVER leave Islam, you are killed...period, end of story. It is perfectly acceptable for Muslims to lie to EVERYONE who is not Muslim because they are infidels and Islam is at war against and means to destroy everyone who is not Islam.
In no way, shape or form do Christians believe that all Muslims should be killed, or converted and if they are useful and remain Muslims they shall be put into slavery. If a Christian decides to change faiths is the family's duty to kill that person? NO. Does Christ promote lying to everyone who is not Christian? No.
So, please tell me exactly where is it Christians are to find common ground with Islam? I don't believe there is any.
Lisa, and Blondeambition you made good points and good posts. I do agree with you on the things you believe.
Kelly
In God We Trust
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Kelly, you said this beautifully and truthfully. You are well educated & acquainted with Islam ..and I very much approve this message... that was conveyed in Love and in truth.
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Thank you for your post, I appreciate it.
My life long friend who introduced me to e-cigs and this forum lived and worked in Afghanistan for almost 3 yrs. We would talk via skype two or three time a week. We discussed many things about Islam and Muslims living there. She was required to cover her head and also had to wear shirts that went over her hips (luckily she doesn't have any, she is 5'1 and 100 lbs LOL!!), she and her husband and/or coworkers had to travel in armored SUVs with a "chase" car following so that if the SUVs were attacked they were to run to the chase car so they could get out of the area. She had to oversee men who were Muslim because she was their boss, many quit instead of having a woman tell them what to do. She had a very hard time. She knew personally of a woman who was stoned to death for bringing dishonor on her family (she wanted to marry outside the Muslim faith and wanted to leave the family and Islam), she experienced several bombings just 2 or 3 blocks from where they lived in Kabul. I could go on and on. We learned a lot together and separately about Islam. Islam is not just a "religion or faith" it is an all encompassing way of life. It dictates your political views, who you can or can not marry, what you believe in, who you can or will work for and on and on.
Having just typed all of that I can not find any common ground with people who believe in Islam. You either believe ALL of it or NONE of it, that is the way it is. In Christianity there is the same belief, meaning you believe ALL of the Bible or none of it. However, Christianity does not dictate how to beat your wife, how to stone a woman to death who brings dishonor on the family. Christianity does none of this. I have never agreed with people who say Islam is a religion of peace. Not from where I stand and not from what I know, will I ever believe in this statement.
Kelly
In God We Trust
Thank you for your post, I appreciate it.
My life long friend who introduced me to e-cigs and this forum lived and worked in Afghanistan for almost 3 yrs. We would talk via skype two or three time a week. We discussed many things about Islam and Muslims living there. She was required to cover her head and also had to wear shirts that went over her hips (luckily she doesn't have any, she is 5'1 and 100 lbs LOL!!), she and her husband and/or coworkers had to travel in armored SUVs with a "chase" car following so that if the SUVs were attacked they were to run to the chase car so they could get out of the area. She had to oversee men who were Muslim because she was their boss, many quit instead of having a woman tell them what to do. She had a very hard time. She knew personally of a woman who was stoned to death for bringing dishonor on her family (she wanted to marry outside the Muslim faith and wanted to leave the family and Islam), she experienced several bombings just 2 or 3 blocks from where they lived in Kabul. I could go on and on. We learned a lot together and separately about Islam. Islam is not just a "religion or faith" it is an all encompassing way of life. It dictates your political views, who you can or can not marry, what you believe in, who you can or will work for and on and on.
Having just typed all of that I can not find any common ground with people who believe in Islam. You either believe ALL of it or NONE of it, that is the way it is. In Christianity there is the same belief, meaning you believe ALL of the Bible or none of it. However, Christianity does not dictate how to beat your wife, how to stone a woman to death who brings dishonor on the family. Christianity does none of this. I have never agreed with people who say Islam is a religion of peace. Not from where I stand and not from what I know, will I ever believe in this statement.
Kelly
In God We Trust
I hear you Sister! Having been married to a former Suni (pronounced Soon-knee) Muslim Arab and having been to the Country of Lebanon myself I'm sure we could spend all day 'swapping' horror stories.. (lol) I adore the Muslim Women and my Heart goes out to them .. for them there is no 'conversion' and no 'escape' from the tyranny that is Islam and the Men who live and die for it & by it. These Women are wed (in pre-arranged) Marriages as early as six years old and most 'deflowered' by the age of nine. Many are 'circumcised' (so they don't 'enjoy' the marriage act and to insure fidelity) which is a painful inhumane and barbaric crime. Most of the People in the US have no concept of 'Shariah Law' (which would be instituted if Islam overcomes, and it 'will' if things continue as they are) but in essence, Shariah Law would do away with ALL feminism, Pornography and Alcohol.. so that news alone makes a lot of US Men sort of sit there and 're-think' their views on Islam. My former Muslim Sister-In-Laws did more for me than my biological Sisters ever have, and I love & miss them so much, but I'm afraid I had to give them up when I divorced my ex because to remain in touch would have given him the ability to stalk and threaten me even now.. which I can't risk.
You summarized it beautifully with this Kelly; Having just typed all of that I can not find any common ground with people who believe in Islam. You either believe ALL of it or NONE of it, that is the way it is. In Christianity there is the same belief, meaning you believe ALL of the Bible or none of it. However, Christianity does not dictate how to beat your wife, how to stone a woman to death who brings dishonor on the family
There is no common ground with Islam... all we can do is 'try' to reach the ones who are not 'practicing' Muslims with the Gospel Message and pray they receive it and then pray for their 'safety' while they attempt to follow it...
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I too have friends/family that has different views from me. I'm not going to hang them by their toes for 2 days. However, I stand firm and tall in what I believe. I am a sinner, saved by Grace by the acceptance of Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior.
I think the MAIN ingredient in a 'true' religion is to have a Living God. What good is having a dead god? If they really were god, they wouldn't be dead, like say....mohammed.....or worshiping a super skinny cow with people starving......or to a statue of a fat dude with his belly showing. If I were going to do that, I'd pluck a blade of grass and worship that. The only religion that can answer that question is Christianity. Why would I want a 2nd rate god? I want the REAL mccoy, none of these fake ones.
The 2nd point I want to make is that there is no place in the Bible that says, "God helps those to help themselves." I want a God that I can depend on. If I wanted to mess up my life by helping myself, what do I need anyone for? Been there done that, have a sets of mugs and a wardrobe of t-shirts.
Almighty God wants a complete dependence on Him. Our ways are not God's ways and His ways work, whereas my ways get me in trouble.
You stated, Vee, that men wrote the Bible. Before I go there......do you believe God parted the Red Sea so the children of Israel could cross on DRY ground? Most Christians do, but then they turn around and say, but men wrote the Bible. Since Almighty God parted the Red Sea, why is it so difficult to believe that He could write a book? And God didn't use Joe Blow off the street, He used Hebrews, His Chosen race.
The latest sport is Christian bashing. It comes from the media, the white house, congress, tv programs, and hollywood. We're a little battle worn, to be truthful. And now the Vatican is saying that the Jewish people are not the chosen race and Israel should go back to the Palestinians. I can tell you pope john paul would have never said that and is probably turning over in his tomb. I mean holely underwear batman! (I typed it that way on purpose. I mean actual underwear with holes in it.) People can say, "What is this world coming to?" I can answer that.....7 years of Tribulation, that is what.
I think the MAIN ingredient in a 'true' religion is to have a Living God. What good is having a dead god? If they really were god, they wouldn't be dead, like say....mohammed.....or worshiping a super skinny cow with people starving......or to a statue of a fat dude with his belly showing. If I were going to do that, I'd pluck a blade of grass and worship that. The only religion that can answer that question is Christianity. Why would I want a 2nd rate god? I want the REAL mccoy, none of these fake ones.
The 2nd point I want to make is that there is no place in the Bible that says, "God helps those to help themselves." I want a God that I can depend on. If I wanted to mess up my life by helping myself, what do I need anyone for? Been there done that, have a sets of mugs and a wardrobe of t-shirts.
Almighty God wants a complete dependence on Him. Our ways are not God's ways and His ways work, whereas my ways get me in trouble. You stated, Vee, that men wrote the Bible. Before I go there......do you believe God parted the Red Sea so the children of Israel could cross on DRY ground? Most Christians do, but then they turn around and say, but men wrote the Bible. Since Almighty God parted the Red Sea, why is it so difficult to believe that He could write a book? And God didn't use Joe Blow off the street, He used Hebrews, His Chosen race.
The latest sport is Christian bashing. It comes from the media, the white house, congress, tv programs, and hollywood. We're a little battle worn, to be truthful. And now the Vatican is saying that the Jewish people are not the chosen race and Israel should go back to the Palestinians. I can tell you pope john paul would have never said that and is probably turning over in his tomb. I mean holely underwear batman! (I typed it that way on purpose. I mean actual underwear with holes in it.) People can say, "What is this world coming to?" I can answer that.....7 years of Tribulation, that is what.
I too have friends/family that has different views from me. I'm not going to hang them by their toes for 2 days. However, I stand firm and tall in what I believe. I am a sinner, saved by Grace by the acceptance of Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior.
I think the MAIN ingredient in a 'true' religion is to have a Living God. What good is having a dead god? If they really were god, they wouldn't be dead, like say....mohammed.....or worshiping a super skinny cow with people starving......or to a statue of a fat dude with his belly showing. If I were going to do that, I'd pluck a blade of grass and worship that. The only religion that can answer that question is Christianity. Why would I want a 2nd rate god? I want the REAL mccoy, none of these fake ones.
The 2nd point I want to make is that there is no place in the Bible that says, "God helps those to help themselves." I want a God that I can depend on. If I wanted to mess up my life by helping myself, what do I need anyone for? Been there done that, have a sets of mugs and a wardrobe of t-shirts.
You stated, Vee, that men wrote the Bible. Before I go there......do you believe God parted the Red Sea so the children of Israel could cross on DRY ground? Most Christians do, but then they turn around and say, but men wrote the Bible. Since Almighty God parted the Red Sea, why is it so difficult to believe that He could write a book? And God didn't use Joe Blow off the street, He used Hebrews, His Chosen race.
The latest sport is Christian bashing. It comes from the media, the white house, congress, tv programs, and hollywood. We're a little battle worn, to be truthful. And now the Vatican is saying that the Jewish people are not the chosen race and Israel should go back to the Palestinians. I can tell you pope john paul would have never said that and is probably turning over in his tomb. I mean holely underwear batman! (I typed it that way on purpose. I mean actual underwear with holes in it.) People can say, "What is this world coming to?" I can answer that.....7 years of Tribulation, that is what.
Amen Sister Lindy! Amen! Good to see you on this thread.. I knew you'd be here Princess! (lol)
Where else would I be except on our Father's computer telephone!
My older niece of the 3 kids we were watching had a fit over Jessi. She said 'she even feels like a real baby! I want her!' Lisa and Kelly, I got Ms Jessi today and she is perfect. I've been holding her alot. I like putting her across my chest and tummy. The weight is of a newborn too! She is awesome!
My older niece of the 3 kids we were watching had a fit over Jessi. She said 'she even feels like a real baby! I want her!' Lisa and Kelly, I got Ms Jessi today and she is perfect. I've been holding her alot. I like putting her across my chest and tummy. The weight is of a newborn too! She is awesome!
Wow SC,
That's great she arrived and into such a wonderful home!
I wonder blondeambition, do you feel like you are giving away your own child after making one of your magnificent dolls? Do you talk to the people who buy them to see if they are going to a good home or not? I mean you spend a long time making them so perfect I would think you would be somewhat protective of them...maybe I am just weird or something.
I used to bead custom Rosaries for new adult Catholics coming into the Church. I designed a distinct Rosary for each Church I would make them for, I always hoped they would bring great solace to those I made them for and did meet some of the people who received them too. It would take me a couple of hours to string a Rosary and I would say the Rosary as I did the bead work. Certainly nothing like the time it takes you to do one of your dolls.
Kelly
In God We Trust
That's great she arrived and into such a wonderful home!
I wonder blondeambition, do you feel like you are giving away your own child after making one of your magnificent dolls? Do you talk to the people who buy them to see if they are going to a good home or not? I mean you spend a long time making them so perfect I would think you would be somewhat protective of them...maybe I am just weird or something.
I used to bead custom Rosaries for new adult Catholics coming into the Church. I designed a distinct Rosary for each Church I would make them for, I always hoped they would bring great solace to those I made them for and did meet some of the people who received them too. It would take me a couple of hours to string a Rosary and I would say the Rosary as I did the bead work. Certainly nothing like the time it takes you to do one of your dolls.
Kelly
In God We Trust
... (Sorry for one second folks)... lol... yes Kelly it's true, sometimes I do... I knew from the get-go this Reborn Baby was for Lindy so I concentrated on NOT getting too attached.. I once owned a gorgeous Rosary... I wish I knew what happened to it. They're so gorgeous and I love praying the Rosary... I do it from time to time sans the Rosary of course.. (lol)
I was named after two Sisters by the way... Sister Eve(lyn) and Sister Louise.
Where else would I be except on our Father's computer telephone!
My older niece of the 3 kids we were watching had a fit over Jessi. She said 'she even feels like a real baby! I want her!' Lisa and Kelly, I got Ms Jessi today and she is perfect. I've been holding her alot. I like putting her across my chest and tummy. The weight is of a newborn too! She is awesome!
LOL! I"m soooooo thrilled for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm actually just here to watch LisaLisa do the Banana Dance...
LMAO!!!!!!!! You know it sister!!!!!!!!!!!
LMAO!!!!!!!! You know it sister!!!!!!!!!!!
You gotta show me that one little 'move' you do so well, I've been practicing but I don't have it quite 'down' like you do yet!
you gotta show me that one little 'move' you do so well, i've been practicing but i don't have it quite 'down' like you do yet!
lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I tell you what, ladies and germs, this may sound really silly to some, and I don't mind, but when I got Jessi, as God as my witness, I absorbed the love that Eve put into creating her. I could feel that love in my heart.....that's when I knew that this is Eve's ministry......to bring the love of Jesus into homes than have pain. I'm not trying to be soupy.....I need a tissue.....okay got one. But it's true. I just melt looking into that gorgeous little face. Ladies, it's such a wonderful experience, and the love keeps going and going and going. (Ya'll don't tell Eve....she may get a big head! )
, this may sound really silly to some, and I don't mind, but when I got Jessi, as God as my witness, I absorbed the love that Eve put into creating her. I could feel that love in my heart.....that's when I knew that this is Eve's ministry......to bring the love of Jesus into homes than have pain. I'm not trying to be soupy.....I need a tissue.....okay got one. But it's true. I just melt looking into that gorgeous little face. Ladies, it's such a wonderful experience, and the love keeps going and going and going. (Ya'll don't tell Eve....she may get a big head! )- Status
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