So what is the real story?

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ApOsTle51

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I posted this in the janty probs thread :
haha , Parked , the reason everyone bought the Dura..hehe



I hope you have broad shoulders , ( just pullin your leg )



and finnaly Ludo makes the peace, a 15 minute bit of explaination puts everyones mind at rest by at least letting them know they are not forgotten.

Keep It Simple Stupid

I can see what i posted in a different light now , and I think Parked is gonna need broader shoulders here. especially with that domain name registration date..that kinda sucks tbh.

another interesting and now somewhat enlightening post's of mine.

to be honest with you matey i havent noticed Rat or Leaford post discount codes willy nilly, i'm not saying they havent , just i havent seen them.

When I joined this forum there was 2 reviewers , Rat and Leaford. They where this forums review panel, they where here since the creation of earth. Now the user base has exploded the review panel has also boomed but some are in it for more than offering opinions.

You yourself are even Totally wickeds official reviewer..and Parked comes across as Janty's.



Honestly didn't mean to offend mate and certainly not a personal flame..just my observations.



*clasps ******* hand and shakes kinda manly like * hehe
 
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dohsma

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I posted this in the janty probs thread :


I can see what i posted in a different light now , and I think Parked is gonna need broader shoulders here. especially with that domain name registration date..that kinda sucks tbh.

another interesting and now somewhat enlightening post's of mine.

Wow that seems pretty prophetic in light of recent events.
 

ROB26

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"... Kate this is to you, give it a rest now please….Your personal crusade against him is over i hope"

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...embers-look-out-black-list-59.html#post151249

Are you one of Parked's 'affiliates'?

Why did he post reviews of products he knew he was going to sell without making his bias clear and why did he want to keep his product reviews on the review board when he was found out?

He tried to get me to talk to him behind the scenes too but I refused, it's not up to me to judge his position.

I see Cashmere doesn't want us to talk about this, and am happy to let it go ... after we know what's happened.

Have you not read Terraphon's post? If you are sooooo eager to find out the details, why have you refused to have a conversation with him? I think you just like the drama....give it a rest already!
 

ROB26

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What's wrong with wanting to have facts out in the open?

Terraphon's post is a character reference, it doesn't answer the questions many of us have.

NOTHING! Why don't you take the time to have a conversation, find out these facts you seek, and then do what you will with the information, instead of constantly calling out for answers....
 

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I've always viewed parked's videos more as product demonstrations than reviews. But then I never base purchases on only one person's opinion, either.

I think the biggest travesty is that a post I made that should have been addressed about JantyUSA got lost in all the mess, and now that thread is closed.

IMNSHO, JantyUSA's business practices lately have bordered on criminal, and he deserves a ban.

Everyone knows how piss-poor their communications have been lately. Well, I got through. Here's how the 'dispute' went down, notice the flat out lies:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/walrus/65-jantyusa-lies-schemes-prevent-refunds.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/walrus/66-more-lies-jantyusa.html

Compared to Jeff (who appears to be his partner-of-sorts), Parked is a saint.
 
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ROB26

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That's what this thread is for Rob, finding out facts. I don't want to have behind the scenes talks, it sounds dodgy to me. If there is nothing to hide then why the secrecy?

Well, I have no facts...but this seems more like a re-lighting of the torch and sharpening of the pitchforks...lol...

He tried to get me to talk to him behind the scenes too but I refused, it's not up to me to judge his position.
Did you not say this Kate? It sounds like you're crusading for answers that you are not willing to ask in a one on one format that isn't a forum...are you a robot? I've spoken my piece and will not speak anymore...it just frustrates me that you continue to attack a friend of mine without even making an attempt to resolve the situation
 

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That's what this thread is for Rob, finding out facts. I don't want to have behind the scenes talks, it sounds dodgy to me. If there is nothing to hide then why the secrecy?

I'd agree. It should be out in the open. But I did send Parked a PM, not sure if I'll hear anything back. But I think it would go a long way to put this matter to rest to have the facts in the open.
 

dohsma

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Well, I have no facts...but this seems more like a re-lighting of the torch and sharpening of the pitchforks...lol...

He tried to get me to talk to him behind the scenes too but I refused, it's not up to me to judge his position.
Did you not say this Kate? It sounds like you're crusading for answers that you are not willing to ask in a one on one format that isn't a forum...are you a robot? I've spoken my piece and will not speak anymore...it just frustrates me that you continue to attack a friend of mine without even making an attempt to resolve the situation

I think your friend needs to make an effort to resolve the situation. I'm not out for blood, I have bought nothing from him. I watched his reviews and lots of others. I think from a business prospective, it would be smart to address the concerns that many in the forum have.
 

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I've always viewed parked's videos more as product demonstrations than reviews. But then I never base purchases on only one person's opinion, either.

I think the biggest travesty is that a post I made that should have been addressed about JantyUSA got lost in all the mess, and now that thread is closed.

IMNSHO, JantyUSA's business practices lately have bordered on criminal, and he deserves a ban.

Everyone knows how piss-poor their communications have been lately. Well, I got through. Here's how the 'dispute' went down, notice the flat out lies:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/walrus/65-jantyusa-lies-schemes-prevent-refunds.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/walrus/66-more-lies-jantyusa.html

Compared to Jeff (who appears to be his partner-of-sorts), Parked is a saint.
Wow, what a pain in the ....
 
"... Kate this is to you, give it a rest now please….Your personal crusade against him is over i hope"

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...embers-look-out-black-list-59.html#post151249

Are you one of Parked's 'affiliates'?

Why did he post reviews of products he knew he was going to sell without making his bias clear and why did he want to keep his product reviews on the review board when he was found out?

He tried to get me to talk to him behind the scenes too but I refused, it's not up to me to judge his position.

I see Cashmere doesn't want us to talk about this, and am happy to let it go ... after we know what's happened.

I don't believe this was ever a "personal crusade" of Kate's. She's just posed the questions that many of us had and they were posed to Parked not with the intention of destroying him but with the intention of protecting the consumers who are members of this forum. I for one appreciate her willingness to put herself in the line of fire. Thank you Kate.

That being said, I think we have now have the information we need to make the decisions as to which supplier we will do business with and which we will not.

I had and still have questions about this situation. What I have taken away from this whole debacle is that like everything in life, nothing is as it seems and just because something is in writing doesn't make it so.

Phone conversations are all well and good. My brother has been in sales for 40 years, and he can do a hell of a job convincing customers they "need" what they don't. Parked's background is in sales, he's honed his skill in communicating with people. Convincing people is what he does.

His review of the Dura was a major factor in my choosing to accept the Dura as a alternative in exchange for a KB that was just not working for me. I spent 3 months of my time and energy, trying to get the functioning parts from Janty USA, had smoke blown up my behind by Jeff at Janty USA telling me that they were "shipped today" but were never shipped at all because they didn't have any supplies on hand.

In the meantime, the reviews continue, JantyUSA is in the middle of a "move" to a new site and I'm fighting for either parts or a refund.

I get my refund and "Shazam!" a new supplier appears in Cowtown carrying Janty products. I order some juice from the new guy, because, hey, he seemed like an up and up kind of guy. But then I get an email with Janty's name on it confirming my shipment. Then I find out that Dietsmokes and JantyUSA are "sharing" warehouse space, offices and computers???

While I and others were waiting for resolution of our issues, Dietsmokes and JantyUSA are busy getting their business plan together and moving into their new quarters. But piss on the customers, they can wait. Then we find out the domain was registered back in November. WTF?

My eyes are WIDE open now in so many ways. I will continue to buy the product that I want and I will be VERY selective with whom I choose to do business. The first whiff of any BS from any one of them and my money goes elsewhere. So for that, Parked, JantyUSA et. al, I thank you.

And this is MY two cents.

This is ALL I have to say about this situation.
GEP

(BTW: I grew up in the Metroplex boys, when TI, Collins Radio and Rockwell were kings, the 'Boys played in the Cotton Bowl, I-30 was still a Turnpike and LBJ Freeway was just beginning to be built. You're just lucky we live in the 21st century or your asses would be run out of town on a rail.)
 
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QueenInNC

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I get my refund and "Shazam!" a new supplier appears in Cowtown carrying Janty products. I order some juice from the new guy, because, hey, he seemed like an up and up kind of guy. But then I get an email with Janty's name on it confirming my shipment. Then I find out that Dietsmokes and JantyUSA are "sharing" warehouse space, offices and computers???




:shock:
 

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This is getting a bit ridiculous....If I were Parked I wouldn’t respond either because no matter how he responds ya'll will be on him so fast calling out accusations, so why should he respond? It sounds to me like all of you have pretty much made up your minds anyway so you really don’t need a response from him. My feelings are if you don't trust him fine don't buy from him. End of story.

When buying anything I look at all the evidence there is on that product before I buy. I would never buy an e-cig based off of one persons review so why is everyone so fired up about it? All e-cigs are different for everyone. One person may love the kiss box…I don’t particularly like it. Should I call out the person that did the review who said it was great and wonderful that he lied and should not be trusted? No, because every product is not necessarily “great” for everyone.

I made the decision to buy a Dura-C only after seeing parks review, reading all topics on it and deciding for myself if I wanted to take the chance that I received an e-cig that isn’t perfect. I am glad I actually bought it because it actually did live up to parks review. Not everyone can say that but who says that park is not being honest with his reviews? He may have gotten a great Dura-C like I did with no leaking or atomizers dying etc. etc. I had to wait for my Dura-c but it was a “pre-ordered” item so I figured I would have to wait but maybe I’m a little more patient than some. I have no problems with Janty or with parked…they ONLY share office space. If I was going to open a business that is actually smart to do so what’s the problem? Oh yeah the reviews. (See above for my comment on that.)

I just think this is all getting way out of hand. Trust me everyone has definitely let any newbie know not to buy from him. Ya’ll want to ruin his business… well congrats you probably have! I on the other hand will have no problems buying anything from him. I think his reviews are helpful to me only because I can see the product in action but that is it. So what if he registered his website before doing the reviews…I really don’t care because I don’t just take his word for me deciding to buy anything.

Just my 2 cents
 

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Everything you said was pretty accurate Tumbleweed. The problem I have, is that he gave competitor products bad reviews under the guise of being impartial. It's dishonest to say the least and he apparently had no problem damaging another man's business with his conduct.

The reviews in question are STILL in his sub forum. After giving him the benefit of the doubt I'm a little ...... at how misleading he was.
 
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