So when do we get 100/200/300 MG liquids? (since the absorbion rate is so low?)

[nycityjeff]

Agreed. Its not only kind of pointless for 'The Haves' (those who are apparently fortunate to be able to get their required level of nicotine from their e-cigarettes) to constantly interject and disrupt in every thread where others -- 'The HaveNots' -- are trying to work out the mechanics of it and find solutions for whats still missing.. the constant interjections of snide assumptions of 'just trying to get a buzz' and constant related sorts of inferences and 'name-calling' are really quite counter-productive, in just the way described here. (even going so far questioning people's moral character fiber and mental health in the process seems just plain silly and is rather effective at derailing and driving a thread in to the ground when eventually invariably appropriately equally sillyresponses to these end up being made -- I've been guilty of a few 'well if you're that determined to act a fool/fine what the heck' sorts of responses myself)

Anyway,
Addressing those "Haves" who have been guilty of this --

If you're getting what you need -- great, bully for you!

Don't lord it over others, keep your Holier-Than-Thou attitudes and stay out of it and quit yer b*tching every time you see an honest discussion from people on a discovery as to why/whats missing and solutions for others who aren't yet (the 'HaveNots'), move on, 'Haves,' to some other thread, some other type of commenting, and be a bit more productive in the future, mmkay?

Thanks for your understanding, now move along drive through thank you!

Uh...I wasn't "lording" over anybody or being "holier than thou" because I said I am getting what I need from my vaping. I was just giving my opinion on the subject. Wow. A bit sensitive are we? I actually thought my post would give people a more optimsitic attitude. This is not about the "haves and the "have-nots". It's about vapers discussing the experience of vaping. Im not interjecting or disrupting anything and I'm a bit put off that you have to see it that way. If you're not enjoying your vaping experience it's certainly not my fault that I am, and that I chose to make a positive post.
Seriously...if you're not getting what you need from the experience you don't need to be hostile to those who are.

 

[Lezil]

It's interesting for the actual nicotine concentrations, but I didn't need a study to tell me I get but a small fraction of the nicotine from an e-cig drag as I do from an analog. If I smoked as much as I vaped I'd be sick as a dog. I vape 24mg.

Is there anyone on here who smoked at least a pack a day that has gotten a buzz of an e-cig after switching?

yeah i was smoking a pack a day , and got buzzed off the first cart, you have to take in consideration that its synthetic nic as well, so it could be more pure than nic in tobacco? sounds good in theory ill do a little research, but there are alot of chems that are stronger synthetic, like DMT for example compared to its natural extracted form

 

[keveck]

It is NOT synthetic nicotine, despite what you may have read.

Synthetic nicotine is only used for pest control. It is not meant for human consumption.

Official response via writing from Christian Berkey at Johnson Creek...

Most studies regarding synthetic nicotine were conducted in the 60's and 70's by tobacco companies looking for a way to add nicotine on the manufacturing level instead of on the agricultural or botany level. Purely synthetic nicotine is made with a combination of Niacin, Ethanol, Sulfuric Acid and a few other nasty chemicals. When adjusted for inflation, the cost of the process is prohibitively expensive when compared to modern extraction methods. Additionally, we've never seen research indicating a feasible pharmaceutical grade product - industrial grades only. While modern technology may allow for additional resolution steps, we believe the cost has kept it from being seriously pursued. That combination of high cost and more importantly low quality makes it a presently unacceptable option for Johnson Creek.

While additional research may have been done, we've never seen published works stating so. To our knowledge, there is currently no firm offering a synthetic pharmaceutical grade nicotine.


Extracted nicotine, regardless of plant origin, processed to pharma grades, is technically not synthetic. This pharma or "pure" nicotine is used in our products. Other pharma forms of nicotine, such as nicotine polacrilex, undergo a similar process but undergo specific bonding for use in products like nicotine gum, etc."

 

[Israfil]

I have to disagree, I have heard of and seen incidences where someone was vaping too high of a liquid and started vomiting or become ill.

I think the nicotine is pretty fairly gauged in the measuring system manufacturers use.

Someone on here ( I cant remember who) came up with a formula for figuring out how much nicotine was in one cartridge. he proved that the number on the bottle more referred to the filled cartridge than the contents in the whole bottle

to say that the nicotine content of an ecig is one tenth of an actual cigarette is inaccurate in my opinion.

Could you be referring to my quickmath the other day? (note, the other day could have been as long as a few weeks, without a job time is relative) The little formula for the amount of nicotine in a cartridge? if so..YAY! someone referred to something I did.

I completely agree that the nicotine is just fine. At 100mg if you were to have 1ml absorb into your skin thanks to a spill it WOULD kill you. 100mg is well over the LD50 of nicotine for your average sized person, and even for a behemoth like myself it's about 10-15 over.

300mg...you're looking at maybe..30 seconds to will everything you own to your cat. ^_^ Granted, 300mg per ML would be pretty much unvapeable anyhow considering it would likely be a paste at that point.

 

[AcePilot]

My 2 cents:
I haven't gotten the "buzz" from nicotine since my first cigarette when I was 14 and it knocked me on my ...., and I had to literally crawl back to my room and lay down. I smoked 1 1/2 packs a day for 7+ years. With vaping I don't get the buzz, But I certainly don't feel any withdrawal. I need 36MG liquid, Or I start having nic fits. I accidentally tried 24MG, and couldn't figure out why my cravings wouldn't go away till my husband pointed out that I had purchased 24 instead of 36. I don't think I would want to go any higher, Because I like to vape pretty constantly throughout the day, and I know I would get sick.

As for the buzz... Im pretty sure its partly the other crap they put in cigarettes that make you feel that way. I had a rough first week while vaping. I knew I was getting nicotine, But I still felt like I needed to smoke. I think its because I was addicted to all the other chemicals. Thankfully I made it through the first week or two, and I no longer want cigarettes.

I really feel terrible for those of you that can't get satisfied from vaping. My husband is like that. So is my sister. Vaping just didn't work for them, and it makes me sad. I say we should be allowed to buy higher mg nic. Most people are smart enough to know that if it makes them sick.... Stop. Lower it.

 

[Israfil]

Ace, we can buy 100mg in the US...but yah, you'd want to cut it at least 50% (which after adding flavoring tends to hover around 45-48 anyhow) Otherwise well...besides doin pretty nasty things to your skin it would likely make someone your size (and your level of prettyness <3 flygirls) very sick.

If you do want to delve into that, there's unflavored nic at myfreedomsmokes.com at a nice range up to 100mg/ml. I buy it, but I handle it as if I were in a lab handling a bottle of arsenic. Gloves, goggles (have a nice pair of Dr. Horrible welding goggles), syringes, etc.

 

[magz]

It's interesting for the actual nicotine concentrations, but I didn't need a study to tell me I get but a small fraction of the nicotine from an e-cig drag as I do from an analog. If I smoked as much as I vaped I'd be sick as a dog. I vape 24mg.

Is there anyone on here who smoked at least a pack a day that has gotten a buzz of an e-cig after switching?

I was smoking about a pack a day of camel wides and then switched to rollies for a while before I started vaping, and when I got my first juice it was 26mg and it knocked me on my ....! Of course, I use my pv like a pacifier, but it only took a few drags before I started getting dizzy, a few more and I'd get a headache, and a few more before I got nauseous.

I definitely don't want higher nic juice. At this point, I'm pretty happy vaping 12mg most of the time, sometimes 16 or 18, and if I'm having a nic fit I take a few hits of the 26mg. Not a chance I'd use anything much stronger than that.

 

[voltaire]

yeah i was smoking a pack a day , and got buzzed off the first cart, you have to take in consideration that its synthetic nic as well, so it could be more pure than nic in tobacco? sounds good in theory ill do a little research, but there are alot of chems that are stronger synthetic, like DMT for example compared to its natural extracted form

Could you be referring to my quickmath the other day? (note, the other day could have been as long as a few weeks, without a job time is relative) The little formula for the amount of nicotine in a cartridge? if so..YAY! someone referred to something I did.

I completely agree that the nicotine is just fine. At 100mg if you were to have 1ml absorb into your skin thanks to a spill it WOULD kill you. 100mg is well over the LD50 of nicotine for your average sized person, and even for a behemoth like myself it's about 10-15 over.

300mg...you're looking at maybe..30 seconds to will everything you own to your cat. ^_^ Granted, 300mg per ML would be pretty much unvapeable anyhow considering it would likely be a paste at that point.

I was smoking about a pack a day of camel wides and then switched to rollies for a while before I started vaping, and when I got my first juice it was 26mg and it knocked me on my ....! Of course, I use my pv like a pacifier, but it only took a few drags before I started getting dizzy, a few more and I'd get a headache, and a few more before I got nauseous.

I definitely don't want higher nic juice. At this point, I'm pretty happy vaping 12mg most of the time, sometimes 16 or 18, and if I'm having a nic fit I take a few hits of the 26mg. Not a chance I'd use anything much stronger than that.

Do you guys realize you're replying to posts made nearly a year ago?

 

[AcePilot]

Voltaire- Who cares? New vapers join ECF every day... Whats the harm in reading and commenting on "old news"? Its New to some people... Including myself.... And I'm a "vet". Old or new, I say all the newbies should soak up all the info they can

 

[AcePilot]

Ace, we can buy 100mg in the US...but yah, you'd want to cut it at least 50% (which after adding flavoring tends to hover around 45-48 anyhow) Otherwise well...besides doin pretty nasty things to your skin it would likely make someone your size (and your level of prettyness <3 flygirls) very sick.

If you do want to delve into that, there's unflavored nic at myfreedomsmokes.com at a nice range up to 100mg/ml. I buy it, but I handle it as if I were in a lab handling a bottle of arsenic. Gloves, goggles (have a nice pair of Dr. Horrible welding goggles), syringes, etc.

Man.. I've gotten sooo out of the loop! Thats what I get for working 80Hrs a week. and haha thanks, wouldn't want my flygirl-ness to be effected

 

[Israfil]

Post dates? what new devilry is this?!? lol..

Yah...it doesn't surprise me at all...although...a year ago feels like a day...and last week feels like an eon. I can see through TIME! ...maybe I'll dial back my nic concentration.

 

[Shai]

There is one issue with ecigs: You don't have a timer to tell you when you're done. With an analog that timer is the cigarette. So, vaping larger concentrations of nicotine would not be a good thing. I vape at 18mg. It requires that I vape pretty much all the time when I'm not doing anything to satisfy my cravings. But repeated slower draws, deeper inhalations will result in me getting that feeling at the back of my throat that I'm reaching my limit for nicotine. It's the same feeling I've gotten with nico gum before realizing you're not supposed to chew it regularly but just before the hiccup stage.

My cravings for cigs have gone down substantially. Now I'm at the point that I still get the craving but can easily persuade myself to rely on the ecig to get me past it.....vape more. At least right now.

Ace, I would ask your sister and hubby to try again. Don't vape it like they smoked a cigarette. Vape it constantly when they're able. And tell them don't force quitting smoking. Keep smoking when the cravings hit just vape inbetween. The cravings will become less frequent hence less smoking.

 

[vleath]

I vape so much cause I like the flavor of the juice. I like the fact that I may not absorb as much because I dont reach for my PV first thing in the morning like I did my smokes. I can actually go a couple of hours which tells me I am breaking the nicotine addiction.

But that being said when I got my V3 I had 18mg liquid and received the biggest headache within the hour.

I think people must absorb at different rates.

I smoked lights but I cant handle e juice over 12mg, 8 if I love the flavor.

 

[voltaire]

Voltaire- Who cares? New vapers join ECF every day... Whats the harm in reading and commenting on "old news"?

No harm, I didn't say nobody should post here. The reason I pointed it out is that the posts that I quoted seemed to be direct responses and even questions directed at year old posts that the original poster is not likely to be responding to anytime soon. Carry on.

 

[THE]

I have smoked as much as several packs a day of cigarettes. I am obscenely addicted to nicotine. Using 22mg liquid, when I wake up in withdrawl, my withdrawl is gone within 2-3 minutes of vaping. The same time it would have taken to smoke only ONE of my regular THREE morning cigarettes. I can say, without reservation, that I get MORE nicotine in the same amount of time when I vape. Period.

 

[Lezil]

here ya go, 100mg per ml bottle

Welcome to XtremeVaping.com

 

[smokingisbad]

would prob taste horrible....

 

[Lezil]

would prob taste horrible....

alot of people buy from there to make thier own jucie, you can also pick what amount of pg or vg

 

[AcePilot]

would prob taste horrible....

I just bought some.. Ill let you know.

 

[aqualung77]

The high concentration nicotine liquid got me "high" when I was vaping the first days of my vaping career. And i have superhigh liquid in the back of my cabinette, which i probably will never use as such atleast. Now I mix liquids of no-nic & low-nic, to get a desirable vaping solution.