Stingray Clone Firing Button

[TBCAmor]

Mine was awful to the point of not firing some batts at first. In two weeks, with much disassembly and cleaning again and again, it seems to have "settled" in. Still some crunch on the edges, and not as nice and smooth and short a throw as my brass tobeco stingray, but it seems reliable now.

Funny thing is, I got an akuma clone Tuesday, and have pretty much exclusively used it since. Last night I was fooling with everything for the hell of it, or fun of it, rather, and it is way better than the last time I used it. Strange stuff.

Also, it seems some come with a silver firing switch , and some, like my black copper, have a copper switch. The silver one is way better in my experience, and works like butter even without cleaning.

Definitely silver switches are superior on these. I'm not talking how hard they hit, can't tell a difference and haven't checked voltage drop. They just fire smooth as butter, from my side by side comparison.

 

[Marc411]

I just picked up my second and the magnet was in backwards causing the switch to stick. Took the entire mod apart and gave it a good cleaning, adjusted the switch and polished the switch with a dremel pad and it is a solid device! With the clones I think is all about cleaning them up and dialing them in for the best performance. I'm real happy with the two coppers I picked up, even for a clone.

 

[nic_fix]

see my thread in the technical section of this board if anyone wishes. it tells you how to make the switch smooth as silk. should have posted here.

 

[sahsah]

the real jd is crunchy and sometimes gets stuck as well. the trick is fire it from the middle and do not screw the switch tight against the battery. screw it snug than back off half a turn. it is just the nature of this design. I have the jd and the infinite. they both act this way. once you get used to hitting it right and screwing it a little lose it works fine. also they both got smoother after a few days. neither have ever failed to fire. I screwed the infinite way too tight once and it got stuck on. I tapped it and it unstuck. even pbusardo said the scorpion was crunchy and the stingray is more so. just the nature of the design. I said in another thread the infinite is better than the jd.

I purchased my stingray directly through Drew ie the man behind jd tech and since it was shipped from the Philippines I ended up paying $220 for it so I refuse to just accept the fact that something that is basically a metal pipe and a switch should have a ....ty switch, that's seriously like the main thing to get right on a mod, since the owners are going to be using the switch hundreds of times every week. Well, I'm happy to report a solution, which (fingers crossed) I put into effect a few weeks ago and seems to still be holding up really well, I pray that it will continue to do so and that I will never have to feel that ....ing crunch of scraping metal ever again which is always followed shortly after by a hole in my chest and some serious anxiety building in my psyche.
Anyways, to get to the meat and potatoes of this post ie the solution: I also noticed that the rice pin was a very poor fit -(and mind you this is an authentic which is really obnoxious IMO like how simple of a thing is that to catch in QC ??!) so I took the rice pin from my nemesis and swapped it out. I also added just a little bit of Vaseline to the switch internals, applied with a q tip so no massive globs or it'll just make a gross mess, you just want to lubricate the switch action like motor oil does in your cars engine. That's all it took and she's been great since. Also, in an extra stroke of good luck and what I like to think of as vaping karma or divine retribution lol the nemesis, being the extremely well designed and made mod that it is was absolutely fine with the stingr.ays rice pin and suffered no ill effects from the swap. Hope that helps you guys and gals so that no one will have to endure the months and months of awful disappointment of finally getting the mod you've been dreaming about only to find it's unusable.
Keep on vaping all you cloud-chasing cowboys (and cowgirls)

 

[sahsah]

I have just one question! When you tighten everything up, if you shake the mod up and down (instead of to the sides) can you hear the positive pin going up and down? Is that normal? Because I can although it fires. I'm just afraid it might not be making full contact

I know what you mean, my hcigar stingray does that and has more misfires than actual fires. I think I've localized the issue there down to the positive "telescopic" contact being way way WAY to loose so that it basically just has no resistance at all to fly up and down, meaning a normal self adjusting positive contact usually takes some force to be pushed out and once it is it stays put at the position it landed in, thus maintaining contact with your attys contact while sitting at the perfect spot to finish your circuit once you press your switch. The difference here is that since it just flys everywhere and doesn't stay out at all it doesn't make contact with your atty so when you press the switch it may touch the contact but it's not finishing the circuit. It even has some wobble laterally which adds a whole nother level of buffoonery and complication. I've basically given up on that POS with quite the colorful bouquet of obscenities being hurled in it's general direction. Really pisses me off when a company puts a product out that doesn't even sort of do what it's intended to, like ... were you thinking???!!!

 

[nic_fix]

the issue is not anyone's implementation of the design. it is a novel design but albeit a flawed one. it does not matter who makes it. out of the box without tweaking it is going to suck.

it is a shame someone puts this poopoo in production. however, after you do what I stated above it will be fine most likely. it is just bs we have to do this. a mod should work out of the box.

 

[Daddy dan123]

I'm kinda new to mech mods. I had them but didn't start using them til a month ago when I got a bad ... panzer and atomic. Lol. But I got a sting ray red copper from vaping walrus i dont know who made it but it came in a brown or tan magnetic box. Anyways it is bad ... and the only issue I had was the fire button was crunchy to the point I thought it was gonna break lol unless I hit it a little right of center (logo facing out) and it was kinda ok. I even tore it all apart trying to fix and clean it to no use. I was at work tonight and seen WD-40 and thought hmm I'll spray this sucker down. So I did and here I am 7 hours later with a smooth as hell button. I hope it doesn't mess it up in the long run but for now my fire button that was once so crunchy I thought it would break is as smooth if not better than my panzer lol. Score. Thank you WD-40 lol

 

[Caskark]

I have a fasttech brushed stainless clone. It worked amazing out of the box, but now about 4 months later it seems like the magnets are wearing out. It started firing on its own standing up and I have to push a specific corner of the switch to get it to work. I've pulled it a part a million times trying to figure out what's wrong but everything looks fine. I backed the bottom magnet out a quarter turn and now I can fire it by pushing any part of the button, but it still fires with even a little bit of pressure. Has anyone else run into this?

 

[Jdbaker82]

I'm kinda new to mech mods. I had them but didn't start using them til a month ago when I got a bad ... panzer and atomic. Lol. But I got a sting ray red copper from vaping walrus i dont know who made it but it came in a brown or tan magnetic box. Anyways it is bad ... and the only issue I had was the fire button was crunchy to the point I thought it was gonna break lol unless I hit it a little right of center (logo facing out) and it was kinda ok. I even tore it all apart trying to fix and clean it to no use. I was at work tonight and seen WD-40 and thought hmm I'll spray this sucker down. So I did and here I am 7 hours later with a smooth as hell button. I hope it doesn't mess it up in the long run but for now my fire button that was once so crunchy I thought it would break is as smooth if not better than my panzer lol. Score. Thank you WD-40 lol

Now i gotta try wd-40 on mine... I wonder if smoothing edges of something would fix it with maybe a dremel?

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[nic_fix]

try what I posted in the tech forum. it involves wd-40 and more. it should make it smooth as silk. ymmv. I found wd-40 will make it a lot better but the extra steps I took makes it effortless. I can breath on it and it will fire now. not literally of course but it is great.

 

[Daddy dan123]

I recommended it just because that was what fixed it for me, apologies. A thorough disassembly of my firing switch caused it to not fire...

My red copper clone switch was so crunchy I thought it was gonna break with each press. So I took it apart before even putting te first battery in and cleaned and examined it for ever lol. Put it together took it apart lolled again and nothing. Couldn't figure it out. After a day of worries I said chalk it get WD-40. Sprayed it in there as you said and now it looks and feels as if I paid 200 for the real thing lol. Even better than my panzer switch

 

[Daddy dan123]

Do you have a link to that video

 

[Chelonian]

This is why many feel that clones are as good as the originals. I bought an authentic Stingray - the switch was crap. Sold it, tried another to see, same issue.

Never had issues like this out of my Super -T, GP, REO, or Poldiac....and they cost much less.

 

[Daddy dan123]

Mine was working fine after awhile of normal wear and tare but I decided to clean it with brasso cuz it would patina real ugly and now after I cleaned it it seems to patina even worse lol but the real issue is after I cleaned it it seems to no longer hit as hard. Wth is going on with this thing. Tube cleaned in inside and out. Contacts are clean threads are clean magnets stick to metal I don't get it. I can put say my explorer rda on it with full battery and it will not make a sound when it fires no crackle or pop or anything but when I inhale I get a good amount of vapor but it's real cool at .7. I can than put that ame battery and dripper on any of my other mods and it will explode lol and it will be a much warmer vape and makes noise. I dont know what happened but it was my hardest hitting mech now it seems to be dying as we speak. Can this be fixed or should we have a burial?

 

[dykealiscious]

So my clone is made by "smy" which is short for the full company name and I can't remember what it is. Same problems....crunchy, stiff and gets stuck. Took it apart and...everyone says "magnets"but I only have 1. Is there supposed to be more than 1? This is my first magnetic firing mod. I'm also not seeing the same parts you all describe. There's a white plastic dome a out the diameter of a dime that the negative post, also quite large, sits in. On the under side is a ring and divit for the magnet(s). On the cap piece is a place with another divit that fits the magnet.

Just in case...anyone know where to buy a nemesis button?

 

[dwcraig1]

The fix I used for my 3 Stingray clone's sticky buttons is this: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...6-jd-mods-stingray-clone-55.html#post13131834

 

[dykealiscious]

Well I took it all apart and there's 2 magnets after all. So lacking the proper tools, I sprayed a super light coating of wd40 on a q-tip and lightly ran it over the edges of the moving parts only (the ring that slides over the inner section with the rice pin, and the edge that sits down into the outer ring that is silver. Reassembled and it is acceptable now after a few priming pushes to loosen it up. Minimal chemicals and so far so good. Everything looked super clean and smooth already so I just did a quick damp paper towel wipe down beforehand.

 

[Keekers]

Where is the second magnet? I am so confused. I took apart the firing button to clean it out and now the mod fires if I hold it upside down. Ah I need help! I wish I wouldn't have messed with it.

I also have my firing button stuck on my other stingray clone. I put it in the freezer, soaked it in hot water, used a rubber kitchen grip, and still can't get it to unscrew.

 

[Keekers]

Fixed it yay! I didn't realize the two batteries were stuck together. Duh. Then I needed to snap them in securely to make sure they didn't keep sticking to each other.

 

[H2OIntolerant]

Thanks for this thread, my slo jo was burning off my fingertips yesterday.