SvoёMesto KAYFUN 4

[Aal_]

Lots of people mentioned the spring problem with TC.

 

[dravell]

We all have different opinions. Mine is like this. I believe cloning hurts innovation. Imagine you built an iPhone app from scratch. Your idea, your hard hours of work. Your marketing dollars, your effort and time and you sell it for $1.99. Now you take the money you've made off that app and live off it while designing and financing your next app.

Meanwhile, While your out doing all of that hard work, someone comes out with the same concept, same design, changed the name to something similar, marks it down to $.99 and enjoys the fruits of all your hard work, innovation, and work you did. Now let's say 30 other people do the same thing with your app but make much worse versions of it which assists in hurting YOUR reputation while making unlicensed crappy versions of what you created. Where does that leave the innovator?

So we could talk about dollar amounts and say $200 is a lot more than $1.99, but it's still stealing. Whether it be Nike, NFL Jerseys, apps, attys, and rba's. Someone thought of it first, and because someone is buying a fake, someone else gets hurt because of it.

That's just my 2 cents for what it's worth.

svoemesto and majority of these authentic companies sell out of their product WELL before all the people who actually want the authentics can even get them. Some products have month to year long waiting lists.

So how are clones hurting their business again if the people who actually want to spend the money on them cant get them let alone the people who dont want to spend that much/cant spend that much?
The majority of people buying clones wont or cant spend expensive authentic money, the only way clones are hurting anything is by making them less exclusive looking to people around them.

I buy authentics of things I really enjoy. If I bought everything authentic first I would have gone bankrupt a long time ago and had a ton of stuff I didnt even like.

 

[rodsky77]

Ok, I am well and truly flummoxed. My K4 won't wick anything unless I crack the seal at the drip tip tube-to-top cap connection. And even then I only get a bubble or two, and barely any vapor.
Juice valve is wide open. It's been re-wicked twice. Taken apart three times...



I am at a loss and willing to risk embarrassment to figure this out.

Have you ever been able to vape it? If not, then check the juice channels in the chimney and the deck and poke around with a toothpick - there may be some dirt stuck in the channels. If yes, then you've put it together incorrectly and something is not allowing for the juice to flow through or you have the juice control closed - although, you can only put the atty together and take it apart when the juice control is open - remember, twist clockwise to open the juice control.

 

[d.g.]

12 hours high altitude non-stop plain trip : zero leakeage

It turns out even though K4 did not leak my brain did I wrote down plain instead of plane

 

[Frankenmizer]

Are you sure the juice control is open?? When the K4 is on your mod you turn it clockwise.

Yes. I've watched every video and Q's excellent summary in this thread.

 

[Frankenmizer]

Wattage? Wire? VG Ratio?

12w to 15w, TEMCo 30ga Ni200 (DNA 40 mod), have tried with 70PG/30VG, 50-50, and 100VG.

 

[Frankenmizer]

I use my Kayfun V4 from two weeks now. Works well, good flavor, TH, vapor production.
But in the meantime I discovered two things that I do not like at all.
First, when i open the base, always find lichid there. Not much, but is there and require cleaning. When i wash the base, too many small parts, always drop some… And the base spring, was originally silver colour, now is black at one end, as would be oxidized. I do not like things lists before, becoming clear disadvantages compared with the simplicity of KL+…
Secound, and this is the biggest problem, it will not work with DNA40 in temperature mod. I use my DNA 30 box mod home made and mechanicals mod, but a friend of my has Kayfun V4 and Vapor Flask DNA 40. He made a coil with Nickel200, everything was done perfectly and put Kayfun V4 on Vapor Flask in temperature mod. Then, when he press the fire button, the watts jump like crazy, almost always up to the value of 40 W. He contact Vapor Flask support, he think it was his fault, but but the answer that he received is that the fault is the Kayfun V4, his spring in the base is the issue. The exact answer was: “The Kayfun 4 will act weired with nickel and read incorrectly due to a spring in the base”.
My friend tried the same thing with Kayfun Lite Plus and everything worked perfectly in temperature mod.
I think these things are good to know before buying a Kayfun V4, especially as it is not cheap.
Or maybe I had higher expectations at 150 euro atty.
But I'm still curious if anyone has make it work with Nickel200 and a DNA 40 mos in temperature mod.

Ah - there maybe a clue in my problem noted above.

 

[Frankenmizer]

Have you ever been able to vape it? If not, then check the juice channels in the chimney and the deck and poke around with a toothpick - there may be some dirt stuck in the channels. If yes, then you've put it together incorrectly and something is not allowing for the juice to flow through or you have the juice control closed - although, you can only put the atty together and take it apart when the juice control is open - remember, twist clockwise to open the juice control.

The chimney channels are on my list. I did check the bell ports - they're fine. Thanks

 

[Frankenmizer]

A tip 'o the atty to freerdogg, Aal_, valahul, and rodsky77 for their assistance. Thank you.

I suspect two possible culprits: either the chimney juice channels, or Ni200 temperature control wire/DNA40 issues.

 

[jaxgator]

Ok, got mine built yesterday afternoon. Super high quality materials and craftsmanship. Gorgeous device!

Very good vape. Easy to build. Wicks well with superb flavor. I'm quite happy with this purchase.

The juice control is counterintuitive to me. I have to remember that closing it reminds me of turning on a water faucet. I'm sure I'll get used to it with a little more use but just have to remember that it is backwards to the way I understand on/off.

I am running it on my Flask and it wouldn't go into TP mode even though I built it with nickel. I saw earlier where Q said that he had completely removed the afc screw. I like an open draw so prior to building it I removed that screw. Well, come to find out, it was that screw that screwed with the TP mode. As son as I re-installed it, boom! Temperature Protection began working. Unfortunately, now the draw feels pretty tight to me. If I backed it out as far as it would go and then tightened up the 510 screw, it would lock the juice control ring so I couldn't open or close it. Since I can't see the afc screw, how do I know when it is fully open?

Another issue I have, and I have seen someone post earlier about this but don't remember the fix, is that my 510 screw once tightened just keeps on screwing and screwing but doesn't move.

Little help on these two issues please?

 

[jaxgator]

Now that I think about it, I might have had the juice control closed when it wouldn't go into TP. Perhaps with less tension on the spring, it wasn't making a good enough contact to go into TP mode. I'll double check that this afternoon.

So today I decided to take a deep breath, disassemble my kayfun and clean it and reassemble it. Well many things caught my attention.
First the juice control is now smoother. The issue I had with the 510 spinning freely was solved since I tightened it while pushing down the positive nut.

Maybe this was the answer for the freely spinning 510? I'll check that out as well.

 

[MattB101]

A tip 'o the atty to freerdogg, Aal_, valahul, and rodsky77 for their assistance. Thank you.

I suspect two possible culprits: either the chimney juice channels, or Ni200 temperature control wire/DNA40 issues.

Or the spring maybe not making solid contact or dirty. I think that spring is going to turn out to be an issue in the long run.

Sent with no malice and not a whole lot of forethought from my new Galaxy Tab 4. Thanks Santa!

 

[BNEAT]

The juice control is counterintuitive to me. I have to remember that closing it reminds me of turning on a water faucet. I'm sure I'll get used to it with a little more use but just have to remember that it is backwards to the way I understand on/off.

Mine doesn't read TC correctly if I forget to open the Juice Control. Clockwise to screw the 510 onto the mod, and clockwise to open the juice control, then TC works fine.

Also, I have the S-kit installed, so no airflow adjustment screw at all. TC still works fine, as long as I don't forget to open the Juice control.

All of this is based on less than one day of use, so someone correct me if my ignorance is showing.

 

[Aal_]

It is normal. If you have juice control closed, spring is extended. It will add to the ohms. Plus with time the difference will become bigger. I think we should find a way to replace the spring. Or svoemesto should release something without spring but then we loose juice control.

 

[AstroTurf]

In addition to screwing with TC

It would also screw with a variable wattage device, No?

Thanks, Jim

 

[jaxgator]

Mine doesn't read TC correctly if I forget to open the Juice Control. Clockwise to screw the 510 onto the mod, and clockwise to open the juice control, then TC works fine.

Also, I have the S-kit installed, so no airflow adjustment screw at all. TC still works fine, as long as I don't forget to open the Juice control.

All of this is based on less than one day of use, so someone correct me if my ignorance is showing.

Thanks man! Yeah, I guess I did have my juice control closed when I first started using it. Hopefully, that was my issue with TP and hopefully, I can completely remove the afc screw. The draw was way more to my liking with it removed.

Now, if I can just figure out why the 510 spins freely, I'll be one happy vaper.

 

[Moonbogg]

Wonder when these are coming back in stock. Maybe by spring.

 

[BNEAT]

Now, if I can just figure out why the 510 spins freely, I'll be one happy vaper.

Mine spins too. I stuffed my thumb on it and tightened it as much as could, but it still wasn't very tight. I was in too big of a hurry to vape it, so I didn't give it much thought

 

[jaxgator]

Wonder when these are coming back in stock. Maybe by spring.

I got mine from here recently: SvoeMesto Kayfun 4 | Self-e-Steam.com.

I just checked and it let me add one to my cart so apparently they still have stock. Hurry on over.

 

[dwcraig1]

Mine spins too. I stuffed my thumb on it and tightened it as much as could, but it still wasn't very tight. I was in too big of a hurry to vape it, so I didn't give it much thought

Well the nut that it screws into resides in a round flat insulator, not much to stop it from turning when screwed all the way in.
The spring is pushing against it but it still spins.