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What's your coil diameter and wick length, Theo?
Most people find a larger ID coil such as 2.4mm-3mm works best in the KF4. Generally larger diameter than previous KF's due to the larger diameter centre post. I personally use 3mm coils.
Wick length i find about 3mm-4mm beyond the congestion ring works for me. I have rounded shoulders on my wicks, so if you stuff yours down a bit more, you may want to cut your wicks a little shorter.

I always do 2mm coils using the usual little blue screwdriver. I will try a 2,5mm coil now that I got the Kuro Coilers.
I do my coil with an angle, not like your build. I will try that as well. Thank you for your answer.

Is yours authentic or clone? Think you're getting enough juice (wicking well?) When running "close to dry" the flavor starts to get muted, but still puts put vapor.

And I believe that's pretty normal on the bubbles due to the fact that the bubbles only have those extra 6 holes in the chimney piece to come out of. So they collect and then peek out from one hole/side.

That's how I see it at least.


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I have the authentic one. The flavor gets muted but the vapor is as good as it was. It isn't dry by any means, just not the flavor it was in the beginning.

Also does anybody have weird ohm readings? I only have my evic supreme for testing but sometimes when I put the k4 it says 1,6ohms, some other times 1,8ohms etc.

Sorry for my bad english.
 

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Also does anybody have weird ohm readings? I only have my evic supreme for testing but sometimes when I put the k4 it says 1,6ohms, some other times 1,8ohms etc.

Sorry for my bad english.

Try tightening the 9A screw. It's been reported, and I had it too, that that screw, if loose, leads to fluctuations in the Ohm readings.

And your English is fine ;)

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I always do 2mm coils using the usual little blue screwdriver. I will try a 2,5mm coil now that I got the Kuro Coilers.
I do my coil with an angle, not like your build. I will try that as well. Thank you for your answer.

I have the authentic one. The flavor gets muted but the vapor is as good as it was. It isn't dry by any means, just not the flavor it was in the beginning.

Also does anybody have weird ohm readings? I only have my evic supreme for testing but sometimes when I put the k4 it says 1,6ohms, some other times 1,8ohms etc.

Sorry for my bad english.

Yep, like Tizz said, connectivity issues. Could also be a loose trapping of coil legs under the terminal screws.
 

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Neither the erlkonigin or the kfl were but they work...

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I have had absolutely no problem at all with the K4 and Ni200. Back a bit I expressed the same hesitancy as others, likely in the DNA 40, NR, Nickel Builds Thread). Jumped in, with the experience building Ni200 I already had, and built without any preconceived notions.

@qorax: I would jump immediately to 3 mm. And as an initial test use KGD. (I know how much you love rayon and have perfected your cut away wick technique :).)

(1) Cut a piece of KGD about 2.5 mm thick,
(2) as usual remove the two stiff facings,
(3) twist the end and insert.
(4) If you feel there's too much wick, pinch a bit off.
(5) As usual, there should be slight tension when pulling the KGD through the coil but not so much that the wraps deform. (No need for "double-insertion. :D)

Good luck!

@junny89 and anyone else afraid of the K4 spring: Although the upper part of the base (parts14-24) seems to fit the lower (parts 1-11) in two ways it is like best to try both ways to see whether one screws down more smoothly. Thus, trial and error on this point may have a payoff. IOW screw the upper parts down (part way) notice how smooth the JC plate goes down to its resting point. If not smooth try the other direction.

I've been using a black Tobeco clone with ni200 since I got it and have had no issues with it. The resistance can fluctuate a bit when you close the JC to refill but it's usually within .01Ω if not spot on when you open the JC again. I think I'm on my 4th or 5th tank and the coil is working great.

I'm not 100% sure where it came across in my post, that I said Ni200 builds CAN'T be done on a KF4...but I most certainly did NOT say that...
I only said that the K4 was not designed with Ni200 aka temp control builds in mind...
Not on the attack here...just trying to make it clear that I said one thing, and not another.
 

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I'm not 100% sure where it came across in my post, that I said Ni200 builds CAN'T be done on a KF4...but I most certainly did NOT say that...
I only said that the K4 was not designed with Ni200 aka temp control builds in mind...
Not on the attack here...just trying to make it clear that I said one thing, and not another.

That is the way I interpreted your post. I was speaking to those who believe the opposite. :)
 

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I'm not 100% sure where it came across in my post, that I said Ni200 builds CAN'T be done on a KF4...but I most certainly did NOT say that...
I only said that the K4 was not designed with Ni200 aka temp control builds in mind...
Not on the attack here...just trying to make it clear that I said one thing, and not another.

Hey! Why lump me with these guys? I just jumped on the "me too" bandwagon" :p


Good to know. K4 is currently my favorite tank, been considering a dna40 & nickel with it.

I didn't try until I got my 3rd KF v4. I was hesitant because of the concerns others had but I found it works for me.
 

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I'm not 100% sure where it came across in my post, that I said Ni200 builds CAN'T be done on a KF4...but I most certainly did NOT say that...
I only said that the K4 was not designed with Ni200 aka temp control builds in mind...
Not on the attack here...just trying to make it clear that I said one thing, and not another.
Actually I only replied that way because what you said is precisely what Svoemesto said . I thought you were quoting them :)

Personally I think it's a cheap excuse for having variable resistance in something that shouldn't have any but opinions are like mothers, everybody has one :)

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My K4 with Ni200 is performing fine :) Details & pics later after a day of use!

Nope, jinxed myself.

No sooner I posted that my TP started to go wonky! Now the resistance is fluctuating severely ~ way above where it should be. Did a bit of tinkering ~ No Joy :( I'd prolly have to dig more into it. Sorry folks.
 

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Im considering buying a kayfun v4 tobeco clone, that includes a sub ohm kit.

I cant sub ohm though on an ego battery. Can someone please tell me if this kayfun will work well enough on a regulated 3.7 volt ego? I would like around 1.5-1.8 ohms to vape. Also I use 70 % VG juice. I have 26 gauge kanthal and some labo japanese cotton to build with. Does everything sound like a go to buy one of these? They look real nice!

thanks :)

Chris...
Let's not put the carriage in front of the horse...
What you need first is a good mod/battery to run that Klonefun v4 on, for two main reasons.
1. Safety. You want to make sure your atomizer doesn't drain your battery too hard! If it does, you're could possibly be headed to the hospital.
2. Power. You want to vape right? Well you need something strong enough to power that atomizer! You wouldn't put a Honda Civic engine in a dump truck would you? [emoji1]
I'm always going to recommend a Provari, because their safety record is second to NONE in the vaping world. You can get a Provari for a great price here in the classifieds, or from Provape's website.
"But Provaris are too expensive/over-priced!"
Sure. The price tag is up there. But it's not that much when compared to how much smoking cigarettes costs! Not to mention the fact that you're investing in one of the safest, longest lasting, strongest built, AMERICAN MADE devices in our community.
So let's say you don't want a Provari for sure. Well, there are plenty of other devices out there, which are more than capable of providing enough power to your atomizer...and plenty of people here to recommend them. I just don't own any of those other devices, so I can't speak about them.
My whole point is: Get a better battery/mod BEFORE you buy that Klonefun v4! If you try to run it on your 3.7v eGo, you're going to end up disappointed in more than one way!
I'm not trying to come down on you, buddy! I've just been at this a long time, and I've tried a lot of stuff...I know what works best for me, and also what countless others have found to be the best also!
 
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Chris...
Let's not put the carriage in front of the horse...
What you need first is a good mod/battery to run that Klonefun v4 on, for two main reasons.
1. Safety. You want to make sure your atomizer doesn't drain your battery too hard! If it does, you're could possibly be headed to the hospital.
2. Power. You want to vape right? Well you need something strong enough to power that atomizer! You wouldn't put a Honda Civic engine in a dump truck would you? [emoji1]
I'm always going to recommend a Provari, because their safety record is second to NONE in the vaping world. You can get a Provari for a great price here in the classifieds, or from Provape's website.
"But Provaris are too expensive/over-priced!"
Sure. The price tag is up there. But it's not that much when compared to how much smoking cigarettes costs! Not to mention the fact that you're investing in one of the safest, longest lasting, strongest built, AMERICAN MADE devices in our community.
So let's say you don't want a Provari for sure. Well, there are plenty of other devices out there, which are more than capable of providing enough power to your atomizer...and plenty of people here to recommend them. I just don't own any of those other devices, so I can't speak about them.
My whole point is: Get a better battery/mod BEFORE you buy that Klonefun v4! If you try to run it on your 3.7v eGo, you're going to end up disappointed in more than one way!
I'm not trying to come down on you, buddy! I've just been at this a long time, and I've tried a lot of stuff...I know what works best for me, and also what countless others have found to be the best also!

^That's a new one ;) I got a lot of flak from a few when I hinted it as Krapfun in the KFL thread (part-1) :)

Ps.: That was a year and a half back. I've mellowed down much since :D
 
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^That's a new one ;) I got a lot of flak from a few when I hinted it as Krapfun in the KFL thread (part-1) :)

Well, "Krapfun" is insulting it.
"Klonefun" is politely calling it what it is...a clone of a Kayfun!
I thought you'd know better than to be flingin' insults around, Mr. Q?
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Nope, jinxed myself.

No sooner I posted that my TP started to go wonky! Now the resistance is fluctuating severely ~ way above where it should be. Did a bit of tinkering ~ No Joy :( I'd prolly have to dig more into it. Sorry folks.

A good dose of mixed metaphors may un-jinx you, or,

[a] send you on a wild goose chase;

down a rabbit hole without a paddle. :)

I strongly doubt that SM's assembly practices could be worst than Tobeco (there's a YT video) but you may want to check that part # 10 is properly installed.

It should not be too tight, nor so loose that the airflow ring spins freely. Just enough torque...a matter of feel/trial and error.

Please don't bother with this until after you've eliminated potential connection problems...and built at least ONE spaced coil.


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So we are trying someone to move from a ego battery to a provari... That makes total sense.

There are good regulated mods out there for 30-40 bucks.

We have no idea what kind of commitment the poster has towards vaping so suggesting a provari is a bit far fetched no? :)

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Well, "Krapfun" is insulting it.
"Klonefun" is politely calling it what it is...a clone of a Kayfun!
I thought you'd know better than to be flingin' insults around, Mr. Q?
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Hehe, I did say that was a year & a half back, didn't I? I was young then ;)
 

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So we are trying someone to move from a ego battery to a provari... That makes total sense.

There are good regulated mods out there for 30-40 bucks.

We have no idea what kind of commitment the poster has towards vaping so suggesting a provari is a bit far fetched no? :)

Regards
Tony

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El Tony, a P'vari v2.5 goes pretty cheap in the classies nowadays. Would be used but still rock solid. My two doesn't even have a scar.
 
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