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Where does YiHi recommend that you don't use the passthrough in this manner? Link please.

Seriously?

Here is a link to the specs on their chip: http://www.yihiecigar.com/products_info/YiHiEcigar-SX350J-293407.html
Here is a link to specs on the M class: SXmini M Class manufacturers,SXmini M Class exporters,SXmini M Class suppliers,SXmini M Class OEM service.
Here is a link to specs on the S class: SX Mini

Can you please show where they claim that either of their devices or chip is pass-though?
can you provide a link please that shows they recommend it please.
 

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No no no, I was just suggesting you try 26 @ .09Ω I don't have any 26 to compare. :)
Oh sorry about that Vlad I just figured you had tried it when you made the recommendation. I know someone on here said there was plenty of flavor at .065 with 26awg which makes sense to me because of the wickjis getting good coverage. I think that is why the flavor is better at .09 with the 28
 
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Seriously?

Here is a link to the specs on their chip: http://www.yihiecigar.com/products_info/YiHiEcigar-SX350J-293407.html
Here is a link to specs on the M class: SXmini M Class manufacturers,SXmini M Class exporters,SXmini M Class suppliers,SXmini M Class OEM service.
Here is a link to specs on the S class: SX Mini

Can you please show where they claim that either of their devices or chip is pass-though?
can you provide a link please that shows they recommend it please.
I don't think any of the devices anymore have true pass through they just allow you to vape while charging is going on if the battery is charged enough. I could be wrong but if I remember right from the old days a true pass through could be vaped without a battery even in the device. It's been a long time though
 
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The SX Mini's USB is a pass-through, but YiHi recommends swapping batteries. This is likely to reduce wear and tear on the USB port, which is only warrantied for 3 months I believe, while the rest of the system is a 1 year warranty.
Does anyone use the usb charging port to charge their batteries? One of the reasons I bought it, to use the usb charging capabilities.
 

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Does anyone use the usb charging port to charge their batteries? One of the reasons I bought it, to use the usb charging capabilities.

Just because you want to doesn't mean you should. If you choose to use the usb to charge, please be careful.

Even if 25 people responded "Yeah I do it all the time, no problem." will not change the fact that the USB port is for upgrading, remember, these only came out in the beginning of April and 3 months have not passed. I am waiting for when an upgrade drops and people start reporting that they can't upgrade their unit. I bet the first question Yihi asks will be, "Are you using the USB to charge your unit?"

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I don't think any of the devices anymore have true pass through they just allow you to vape while charging is going on if the battery is charged enough. I could be wrong but if I remember right from the old days a true pass through could be vaped without a battery even in the device. It's been a long time though

I also think YiHi makes it pretty clear that the USB port is there mainly for upgrades and it is only guaranteed for 3 months which is enough incentive for me not to use it for anything else.

All very true! And a very good incentive to use a more practical charger too.
But there is also a safety factor here. It is simply quite dangerous, especially using the device @ 50J or 60W while plugged in.
For someone to recommend a feature as dangerous as this (the unit can blow up in someones face), when it is absolutely false and no where stated as a feature by Yihi is, well, possibly going to get someone seriously hurt and set themselves up for one major lawsuit.

Does anyone use the usb charging port to charge their batteries? One of the reasons I bought it, to use the usb charging capabilities.

yes, you can use it for charging. Many have since Nov/Dec on the S class without issue. But, as with cellphones, the USB port can easily be damaged by constantly inserting and removing the UB cord -- it's the weakest link on any device. As @2legsshrt states, there is a shorter warranty for the port too. And if its damaged, you will not be able to do a future software update.

Charging through the USB (only 450mAh) can take 5 hours to complete. You can do the same is a charger like the LUC4 in about 75 minutes.
 
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Seriously?

Here is a link to the specs on their chip: http://www.yihiecigar.com/products_info/YiHiEcigar-SX350J-293407.html
Here is a link to specs on the M class: SXmini M Class manufacturers,SXmini M Class exporters,SXmini M Class suppliers,SXmini M Class OEM service.
Here is a link to specs on the S class: SX Mini

Can you please show where they claim that either of their devices or chip is pass-though?
can you provide a link please that shows they recommend it please.

The links you gave didn't support your attribution to Yihi regarding USB charging. Thus, the only conclusion that can be made so far is that you're asserting your opinion as if it is YiHi's. As to what they recommend, I leave that to the manual, which someone else has already posted. Also, as to what constitutes a passthrough, it's generally the feature not the exact function that matters. So long as the device can be used while charging, this is often referred to as USB passthrough. Should you need convincing on that, just do a google search of any popular recent mod (e.g., iStick) along with the term "USB passthrough" and you'll see that is the case.

But there is also a safety factor here. It is simply quite dangerous, especially using the device @ 50J or 60W while plugged in.
For someone to recommend a feature as dangerous as this (the unit can blow up in someones face), when it is absolutely false and no where stated as a feature by Yihi is, well, possibly going to get someone seriously hurt and set themselves up for one major lawsuit.

The ability to use the device while charging is listed as a feature (or capability if one prefers) in the manual. As to the rest of your hyperbole, such a failure would be due to using a defective battery. The charging feature itself, however, is unlikely to cause any thermal runaway, as it is below 0.5 A.
 
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Does anyone use the usb charging port to charge their batteries? One of the reasons I bought it, to use the usb charging capabilities.
I use it when I am at work and don't have batteries with me. It works but I just am nice to it.
 
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I've finally made contact with Yihi about the paint chipping and they replied that I can get it replaced by sending it back to the retailer.

Next issue...the B&M I purchased it from is out of stock :( Just have to wait for next available stock :(

But I'm happy with Yihi's customer service...they are very polite and helpful.
 
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The links you gave didn't support your attribution to Yihi regarding USB charging. Thus, the only conclusion that can be made so far is that you're asserting your opinion as if it is YiHi's. As to what they recommend, I leave that to the manual, which someone else has already posted. Also, as to what constitutes a passthrough, it's generally the feature not the exact function that matters. So long as the device can be used while charging, this is often referred to as USB passthrough. Should you need convincing on that, just do a google search of any popular recent mod (e.g., iStick) along with the term "USB passthrough" and you'll see that is the case.

The ability to use the device while charging is listed as a feature (or capability if one prefers) in the manual. As to the rest of your hyperbole, such a failure would be due to using a defective battery. The charging feature itself, however, is unlikely to cause any thermal runaway, as it is below 0.5 A.

J'accuse much?

That post from Braddabill is a screen capture from Page 8 of the SX Mini M Class manual, direct from the Yihi site.

Download - SXmini M Class manual-English
 
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The links you gave didn't support your attribution to Yihi regarding USB charging. Thus, the only conclusion that can be made so far is that you're asserting your opinion as if it is YiHi's. As to what they recommend, I leave that to the manual, which someone else has already posted. Also, as to what constitutes a passthrough, it's generally the feature not the exact function that matters. So long as the device can be used while charging, this is often referred to as USB passthrough. Should you need convincing on that, just do a google search of any popular recent mod (e.g., iStick) along with the term "USB passthrough" and you'll see that is the case.



The ability to use the device while charging is listed as a feature (or capability if one prefers) in the manual. As to the rest of your hyperbole, such a failure would be due to using a defective battery. The charging feature itself, however, is unlikely to cause any thermal runaway, as it is below 0.5 A.

The links i provided are all from Yihis very own website and not my "opinion" but FACT that NO WHERE is it listed on any of those links does it mention that this device is pass-through.

You make a statement that this device has pass-through and is perfectly safe to use as pass-though without any proof of such. That is YOUR opinion only. And a very dangerous opinion for which you now become personally liable for in the event that someone listens to you and gets seriously hurt as a result (yes, i am a practicing attorney). Furthermore, you quote a "manual" and this feature listed in it. Please show to me and the other few thousand owners of this device where in that manual it is listed? Page number? I am looking at my manual and can not see it anywhere. There is a BIG difference between using the USB port to charge the device and using the device to vape while it is plugged in and charging!

Also, please provide me with even ONE of their authorized dealers website that lists that this device has a pass-through feature. varitube, vapro, ginger vaper, coval, yeti. Any one.

And thank you @Croak for attaching the manual as Yozhik obviously does not have it nor the unit to even make such a statement.
 
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All very true! And a very good incentive to use a more practical charger too.
But there is also a safety factor here. It is simply quite dangerous, especially using the device @ 50J or 60W while plugged in.
For someone to recommend a feature as dangerous as this (the unit can blow up in someones face), when it is absolutely false and no where stated as a feature by Yihi is, well, possibly going to get someone seriously hurt and set themselves up for one major lawsuit.



yes, you can use it for charging. Many have since Nov/Dec on the S class without issue. But, as with cellphones, the USB port can easily be damaged by constantly inserting and removing the UB cord -- it's the weakest link on any device. As @2legsshrt states, there is a shorter warranty for the port too. And if its damaged, you will not be able to do a future software update.

Charging through the USB (only 450mAh) can take 5 hours to complete. You can do the same is a charger like the LUC4 in about 75 minutes.
30 min? It takes me 4-5 hours to charge my vtc5 at .5amps. Everyone is talking about prolonging the life of the usb port, and no one is talking about prolonging the life of their batteries. Charging up a battery in 30 minutes, using a high amperage, decreases the life of it greatly.

I understand the risks on vaping and charging , and I agree with everyone. I won't do it, but just was curious about just charging the device through the usb port, as I only charge my vtc5 batteries at .5amps anyways, I wouldn't see a slower charge time than normal. It all comes down to if I can or not. I understand that the warranty only covers the usb for 3 months, but that doesn't mean you can't ever use it, if you're careful.
 

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30 min? It takes me 4-5 hours to charge my vtc5 at .5amps. Everyone is talking about prolonging the life of the usb port, and no one is talking about prolonging the life of their batteries. Charging up a battery in 30 minutes, using a high amperage, decreases the life of it greatly.

There are quite a few studies regarding batteries and charging at different amps. Most show that charging at 0.5A vs 2A will give you maybe 5 more total charge cycles over the life span of the battery. At about $5 cost per battery, i will take that convenience. Also, as a safety feature, being so cheap to replace, I am not waiting anywhere near the end of the battery's life to replace it.

Also, certain batteries like INR (the popular Samsung 25R's for example) will lose 40% after 250 charge cycles (a little over 8 months of everyday charging).
 

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30 min? It takes me 4-5 hours to charge my vtc5 at .5amps. Everyone is talking about prolonging the life of the usb port, and no one is talking about prolonging the life of their batteries. Charging up a battery in 30 minutes, using a high amperage, decreases the life of it greatly.

I understand the risks on vaping and charging , and I agree with everyone. I won't do it, but just was curious about just charging the device through the usb port, as I only charge my vtc5 batteries at .5amps anyways, I wouldn't see a slower charge time than normal. It all comes down to if I can or not. I understand that the warranty only covers the usb for 3 months, but that doesn't mean you can't ever use it, if you're careful.

I have used my M to charge twice. Both times it worked fine. Takes a little time, but no biggie. I usually swap my batteries out though, and put them on my charger and set it to charge at 1amp.
 
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There are quite a few studies regarding batteries and charging at different amps. Most show that charging at 0.5A vs 2A will give you maybe 5 more total charge cycles over the life span of the battery. At about $5 cost per battery, i will take that convenience. Also, as a safety feature, being so cheap to replace, I am not waiting anywhere near the end of the battery's life to replace it.

Also, certain batteries like INR (the popular Samsung 25R's for example) will lose 40% after 250 charge cycles (a little over 8 months of everyday charging).
Can you link me to some of these studies? Every thread I have read says that .5 amps will increase the battery life a lot more than 1amp.
 

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The links i provided are all from Yihis very own website and not my "opinion" but FACT that NO WHERE is it listed on any of those links does it mention that this device is pass-through.

You make a statement that this device has pass-through and is perfectly safe to use as pass-though without any proof of such. That is YOUR opinion only. And a very dangerous opinion for which you now become personally liable for in the event that someone listens to you and gets seriously hurt as a result (yes, i am a practicing attorney). Furthermore, you quote a "manual" and this feature listed in it. Please show to me and the other few thousand owners of this device where in that manual it is listed? Page number? I am looking at my manual and can not see it anywhere. There is a BIG difference between using the USB port to charge the device and using the device to vape while it is plugged in and charging!

Also, please provide me with even ONE of their authorized dealers website that lists that this device has a pass-through feature. varitube, vapro, ginger vaper, coval, yeti. Any one.

And thank you @Croak for attaching the manual as Yozhik obviously does not have it nor the unit to even make such a statement.

I think if you would simply provide substantiating links to the statements you make on behalf of Yihi when asked the topic would be closed. I've not seen that you have done that. I've read the manual and spec's on several occasions and do not see any reference to your assertion of using the device as "Passthrough while charging" is not advised, dangerous or anything else for that matter. So if I've overlooked that statement in the links you provide please do do us all a favor and take a capture of that for everyone's benefit.

No and especially at high wattage. Yihi strongly recommends that you do not.

And please only provide the requested information where does Yihi state "No and especially at high wattage. Yihi strongly recommends that you do not" so this will not go on forever in a circle. I will answer your question and link you to a couple vendors you requested stating that they can be used to "simultaneous firing and charging". "Passthrough" The original question was not about the warranty of the USB or durability etc...

YIHI SX MINI M CLASS
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