SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL)

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Vlad1

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Looks like it's a dna-40 clone without the screen issues.

I'd suggest you haven't looked at any of the specs. Just because it has temperature control by no means makes it a clone. Not to mention I haven't heard of one that's had a garbled screen or battery indicator problems and a host of other problems reported on the DNA line.

In fact if you take the time to read the specs you'll see it is far superior with a host of features not available in the DNA line in addition of being capable of running 60 watts stock and 120 watts with battery option rather than being limited to the mere 40 watts DNA is capable of.
 

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YiHi bypassed others after they released the 30W original Sx350 using customer flashed software upgrades which were free. Within 2 months offered a 50w chip for free through flashed software and now its 60W. They offer buck & boost, by-pass, gravity sensor, a flip screen, reverse polarity protection (which Evolv copied) and now TL.

Please try a little harder guys. Yihi truly carters to the customer base by offering an upgradable chip which is free. In many ways they stay ahead of most of the industry. You need to come up with something better than pounding your feet and saying they are shady or copy cats.

Again watch the video, John from Evolv gives Yihi props for their chip. I’ll make it easy for you, 38:10 mark of the video.

 
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I'd suggest you haven't looked at any of the specs. Just because it has temperature control by no means makes it a clone. Not to mention I haven't heard of one that's had a garbled screen or battery indicator problems and a host of other problems reported on the DNA line.

In fact if you take the time to read the specs you'll see it is far superior with a host of features not available in the DNA line in addition of being capable of running 60 watts stock and 120 watts with battery option rather than being limited to the mere 40 watts DNA is capable of.

I am not saying it is a bad board -- indeed I am sure it is a high quality device all the way around. But, let's not kid ourselves, they copied the DNA-40's TL using the nickel TCR and all (which Evolv patented by the way).

Take away the temperature limiting, and what advantage does the board give over the other gazillion high wattage box mods? Not much. Sure, it's of good build quality, but without TL is it really worth 200 bones? Nope.
 

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I am not saying it is a bad board -- indeed I am sure it is a high quality device all the way around. But, let's not kid ourselves, they copied the DNA-40's TL using the nickel TCR and all (which Evolv patented by the way).

Take away the temperature limiting, and what advantage does the board give over the other gazillion high wattage box mods? Not much. Sure, it's of good build quality, but without TL is it really worth 200 bones? Nope.

To each their own. But your comments are obviously flawed. Using your theory they copied DNA-40's power regulation as well as the use of electrons.

What advantage do you have if you take away TL?
60 / 120 watts, Gravity Sensor, Software upgrade, Soft, Standard, Powerful, Powerful+ mode, Bypass mode, Auto rotary display, and probably a few more I'm not thinking of.

In today's market the DNA-40 is equivalent to the YUGO and the SXmini is the Cadillac. Yihi have left their competition in the dust as Marc411 pointed out going back to the original SX350. Which I have as well.

But if your inclined to spend your vape budget on a chip that's not even in the same league as Yihi SXmini that's up to you. I'm absolutely positive if this SXmini m class I'm holding in my hand were labeled Hana Modz SXmini it would be running $450 - $500. And when I built my SX350 roughly adding the cost of the components up I have about $150 invested in it and once it was built I pif'd one of my DNA 30's. Well last night after receiving the SXmini I pif'd my last DNA 30, So yes to me it is very well worth the $200 bones.

And I'm not bashing the DNA I liked them and had no problems other than the random "Weak Battery" with a fully charged battery in them, and then it would work fine until it was discharged. They were solid performers but they just don't compare to the rich feature set Yihi has brought to the table.
 

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Some quick numbers I just took for the 4 modes. Take these numbers with a grain of salt as I didn't spend much time and my cheap usb pc scope always has about 150 - 200mv noise.

These step at about 2 sec after pushing the fire button and it was using a 1.03Ω load @ 20 watts.

Soft: 4.12v after about 2 sec 4.67v
Standard: 4.68v
Powerful: 5.28v after about 2 sec 4.67v
Powerful+: 5.48v after about 2 sec 4.67v
 
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Some quick numbers I just took for the 4 modes. Take these numbers with a grain of salt as I didn't spend much time and my cheap usb pc scope always has about 15 - 20mv noise.

These step at about 2 sec after pushing the fire button and it was using a 1.03Ω load @ 20 watts.

Soft: 4.12v after about 2 sec 4.67v
Standard: 4.68v
Powerful: 5.28v after about 2 sec 4.67v
Powerful+: 5.48v after about 2 sec 4.67v

Vlad1,

I don't want to step on "Technonut's" mandate and I don't think I m but; I really wonder why other TP vendors didn't include user selectable boost. It is really a freebee for the manufacturer and IMO a real asset for the end user. I am jealous my TP unit doesn't have that feature.
 

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Yea someone else pointed out it was Italian already. Thanks for the tip on the more / transcript as I wasn't aware of it. But using translate to me is like reading binary, really hard to try to put the pieces together and make sense of. I'm still hitting youtube frequently for an english overview since several folks received their devices last week it shouldn't be to long before some english videos are up. thanks again.

Here's an example of the translation at 24:33 :)
24: 33The value say power lease coupon dry this something
24: 37molto very interesting because I do so with my circuit sx signo 2
24: 41parametri more they increased only parameter of batman
Increasing the parameter of Batman is impressive. Definitely the first mod that's been able to do that :)
 

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Vlad1,

I don't want to step on "Technonut's" mandate and I don't think I m but; I really wonder why other TP vendors didn't include user selectable boost. It is really a freebee for the manufacturer and IMO a real asset for the end user. I am jealous my TP unit doesn't have that feature.

Civil discussion, and comparisons are to be expected.. :) There have been complaints from other members regarding folks from "other camps" coming into device-specific TP threads, and turning the discussion into discourses on patent law, IP theft, ect.. It's not fair to members who only want information / discussion on whatever device they're interested in..
 

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Well, from what I gather listening to Evolv in the past, they're big on deciding what's best for us. John at Evolv has what appears to be a stereotypical young engineer ego (which progresses to the crippling old engineer ego if not treated). Sometimes they cave on that "knows best" stance, after repeated pummelings by reviewers, or when the competition treats the consumer like somebody who has a brain and offers the feature.

Reverse battery protection: "That's the responsibility of the mod builder"
Buck/Step Down: "What? Oh..."
Logical, linear battery meter "What?"
 

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Well, from what I gather listening to Evolv in the past, they're big on deciding what's best for us. John at Evolv has what appears to be a stereotypical young engineer ego (which progresses to the crippling old engineer ego if not treated). Sometimes they cave on that "knows best" stance, after repeated pummelings by reviewers, or when the competition treats the consumer like somebody who has a brain and offers the feature.

Reverse battery protection: "That's the responsibility of the mod builder"
Buck/Step Down: "What? Oh..."
Logical, linear battery meter "What?"


Agreed. I guess they had no choice with step-down for the DNA40!! Stuck at 3.7V or whatever is not particularly useful across 0.15 ohm resistors. Trying to regulate temp with a minimum of ~90w or whatever it is would be ...errr... difficult!!
 

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Civil discussion, and comparisons are to be expected.. :) There have been complaints from other members regarding folks from "other camps" coming into device-specific TP threads, and turning the discussion into discourses on patent law, IP theft, ect.. It's not fair to members who only want information / discussion on whatever device they're interested in..

Amen brother Technonut. :)
 
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