Tank-O-Matic Liquinator v4.1

[ED-209]

Ok, I am goin to the hardware store (Lowe's or Home Depot) tonight and just wanted to get some info\advice from the experts who punch their cartos

Do I just get roofing nails or is there a better type of nail and I assume I will have to buy a pack of them?

If so, what type, size, kind, model, size, etc. do I need to get? Sorry I am more programming inclined vs. mechanically inclined and have no idea what type to get.

or

Do I actually buy a special punch tool? I found one from Home Depot site, see below but didn't know if this is what would be used?

If so, same question as above in regards to what kind, model, brand, size, etc.?


I've watched the video and read almost every comment about punching cartos. I have a regular sized hammer, but would it be best to get a small one?

What type of holding device to I need to get for the cartos as I assume I use one hand for the nail\punch and the other for the hammer?

Thanks for the help everyone and not looking to spend a lot as I know there are probably fancy\expensive vices, etc. but just looking for what gets the job done.

P.S. I have Dremelled some cartos already but prefer to punch them as the Dremel scares me and not to mention it gets those metal shavings everywhere and the wifey isn't too fond of them.

 

[Grammie]

I can't advise anything with a punch & nail. I used a dremel to cut mine (cut 50, those should last good a while).

I fill the tank to the brim like Chief. I'm thinking some of the cartos just have a problem to begin with. I normally take a look see thru the center to be sure they're not obstructed.

 

[tyleris12]

I just grabbed a very pointed screw actually, that was laying around here in our Maintenance shop at work (yes, it was new) and used that with a regular hammer. Wasn't real big, but wasn't real small either. I had help with the holding part (another person) so can't help you there much.

Sorry, probably not much help to you, but I'm sure others will chime in soon.

 

[ED-209]

Hey I'll take any help.

I see there are a lot of punches out there but just didn't know which size to get, 1/16, 1/32, etc. it's enough to make your head spin.

Thanks

 

[tyleris12]

Hey I'll take any help.

I see there are a lot of punches out there but just didn't know which size to get, 1/16, 1/32, etc. it's enough to make your head spin.

Thanks

I know I read somewhere that someone said they used a 1/16. I looked at a 1/16 drill bit and it sure looked super small to me. It really is surprising how easy you can punch the cartos tho, they actually punch through with out much force at all!

 

[TrancePsychosis]

I just built my own tank system and my stock of dc cartos is running low, so I was hoping to get some feedback. I'm using Smoktech XL DC cartos and punched two holes in opposite sides. The first day it seemed to wick great, day two it doesn't seem to be able to wick fast enough. I've tried taking drags without power to draw the juice up, but levels seem to drop right back down. The holes are also submerged in e-liquid by about 1/4 in. Do the dremel cuts wick it a lot faster? I'm a heavy nicotine fiend using 36mg Elvis Presley juice from diyflavorshack, and it is a thin juice.

Tech specs= Silver Bullet with 7.4v battery setup, 1.5ohm DC carto. These things worked wonderfully outside of the tank system, just tired of filling all the time. Thanks in advance!

 

[Chief-A-Lot]

I just built my own tank system and my stock of dc cartos is running low, so I was hoping to get some feedback. I'm using Smoktech XL DC cartos and punched two holes in opposite sides. The first day it seemed to wick great, day two it doesn't seem to be able to wick fast enough. I've tried taking drags without power to draw the juice up, but levels seem to drop right back down. The holes are also submerged in e-liquid by about 1/4 in. Do the dremel cuts wick it a lot faster? I'm a heavy nicotine fiend using 36mg Elvis Presley juice from diyflavorshack, and it is a thin juice.

Tech specs= Silver Bullet with 7.4v battery setup, 1.5ohm DC carto. These things worked wonderfully outside of the tank system, just tired of filling all the time. Thanks in advance!

I wish I could help on the DC carots but I have never used or tried them... I have heard through people on this thread that the DC don't seem to work for long periods of time... I also heard they work perfectly... It could be like Grammie said, some cartos just are not put togther well and last for a couple days, some last for 2+ weeks... I guess what I am saying is it could be your carto...

 

[Chief-A-Lot]

I wish I could help on the DC carots but I have never used or tried them... I have heard through people on this thread that the DC don't seem to work for long periods of time... I also heard they work perfectly... It could be like Grammie said, some cartos just are not put togther well and last for a couple days, some last for 2+ weeks... I guess what I am saying is it could be your carto...

On that note, I did have a reg carto kinda do the same, so I would have to think its a not so great carto you got in there...

 

[tyleris12]

I just built my own tank system and my stock of dc cartos is running low, so I was hoping to get some feedback. I'm using Smoktech XL DC cartos and punched two holes in opposite sides. The first day it seemed to wick great, day two it doesn't seem to be able to wick fast enough. I've tried taking drags without power to draw the juice up, but levels seem to drop right back down. The holes are also submerged in e-liquid by about 1/4 in. Do the dremel cuts wick it a lot faster? I'm a heavy nicotine fiend using 36mg Elvis Presley juice from diyflavorshack, and it is a thin juice.

Tech specs= Silver Bullet with 7.4v battery setup, 1.5ohm DC carto. These things worked wonderfully outside of the tank system, just tired of filling all the time. Thanks in advance!

I would say if you are running that high of voltage, a standard resistance carto would probably be great for you. I use a standard resistance in my tank @ 5V and get great flavor and TH. I also use the DC cartos in another tank and run those at 4V, but never higher than that. No wicking problems with either.

 

[Chief-A-Lot]

I would say if you are running that high of voltage, a standard resistance carto would probably be great for you. I use a standard resistance in my tank @ 5V and get great flavor and TH. I also use the DC cartos in another tank and run those at 4V, but never higher than that. No wicking problems with either.

Yeah ummm... those Volts are some serious stuff through a 1.5ohm carto... No wonder it cant get juiced up fast enough! You probably burn a 1/2 mill of juice per drag hehe.

 

[TrancePsychosis]

According to the supplier specs these are two 3.0ohm in parallel resulting in the 1.5ohm resistance. I've tried using these on a 3.7v battery and don't get any vapor production or minimal after a 5 minute drag. These were my first foray into cartos, having been a dripper before I was shown the marvels of these things at my local vape meet. I learned a harsh lesson on dripping and driving and thought " These are what I need.".

 

[tyleris12]

According to the supplier specs these are two 3.0ohm in parallel resulting in the 1.5ohm resistance. I've tried using these on a 3.7v battery and don't get any vapor production or minimal after a 5 minute drag. These were my first foray into cartos, having been a dripper before I was shown the marvels of these things at my local vape meet. I learned a harsh lesson on dripping and driving and thought " These are what I need.".

Try the standard's in your high voltage mod, I think you will be happy with them. The dual's aren't as great on a regular 3.7V battery, but do well on just a little higher voltage, just not too high.

 

[Chief-A-Lot]

According to the supplier specs these are two 3.0ohm in parallel resulting in the 1.5ohm resistance. I've tried using these on a 3.7v battery and don't get any vapor production or minimal after a 5 minute drag. These were my first foray into cartos, having been a dripper before I was shown the marvels of these things at my local vape meet. I learned a harsh lesson on dripping and driving and thought " These are what I need.".

Try a Single coil regular Boge cart (3.0ohm) I can tell ya that at 6 volts Its so damn harsh to me... Sounds right up your ally!!

 

[TrancePsychosis]

Chief-a-lot, I guess you like the "punched in the throat" hit too? Any how's the life expectancy on those and is there a retailer you recommend? I'm a full time student so the cheaper the better.

Tyleris12, have you gone as high as 6v with them? The batteries I was using to drip were 6v in series and they won't even fire these cartos.

 

[Hellen A. Handbasket]

I boiled and blew out the 3 cartos I had (2 that got like lyn's all spitty and gurgly and 1 that was new, but got an immediate burned flavor). What I noticed when comparing them is that I can see light through the center tube on the new one (that took on a burned flavor, my fault) and I can't see light through the other 2 that were well used but got spitty (just a teeny tiny bit of light coming through one but not like the new carto at all... no light shows at all through the other carto tube).

I put a larger needle (eye side, not point) through the new carto's center tube just fine. It won't go through the other 2 used cartos that were throwing liquid, and something is blocking the center tube on these both (one more than the other). Did they deform inside??? If so, why?

I've always wondered about this too, it has happened to me a few times .. I'd love to know what causes it if anyone knows.

Putting this back up to see if someone can tell us what's going on inside the tubes...

 

[Vaporologist]

Try a Single coil regular Boge cart (3.0ohm) I can tell ya that at 6 volts Its so damn harsh to me... Sounds right up your ally!!

I agree, 6V is a bit too much for standard Boge cartos. I find that 5.0 - 5.3V is the sweetspot...

 

[Chief-A-Lot]

Chief-a-lot, I guess you like the "punched in the throat" hit too? Any how's the life expectancy on those and is there a retailer you recommend? I'm a full time student so the cheaper the better.

Tyleris12, have you gone as high as 6v with them? The batteries I was using to drip were 6v in series and they won't even fire these cartos.

Actually Trance, I am ALL about the Thoat Hit... its my A1 priority in vaping. That said, I go a different route. Here it is... I use 1.8-2.0 ohm Single coil cartos, I use them at an ASTONISHING...3.9 Volts... I find I DON"T like the hotter Vapor anymore, cause I can achieve what I want Which is a good STRONG Throat Hit with a much less amount of heat... The Flavor is fantastic! and well, I can only use 100% VG so I NEVER worry about vapor...ever. Thanks to the Creation of LR atomizers/cartomizers I have found my sweet spot. ALL this coming from someone who for the past 2 and 1/2 years have been a "Don't talk to me about anything else but dripping on a 510 at 5+ volts" person... I have now converted to a carto/Liquinator fanboy (Yup I'll say it cause its the truth) on my Provari. NOTHING has compared to the consisncey of this setup... and if you read my post a couple pages back... Been there done that with all the mods... IF and I say it again IF your main concern is throat Hit... There is deffinately other solutions out there... IF you prefer HOT vapor too, try out the Single coil 3.0's on your current setup... OH, and I only use 24mg str liquid now as I used to only get what I wanted with 36... heres a link to a great deal for the cartos if someone hasnt already beat me to it... Free Syringe and Drip tip with each 15 pack purchace plus free shipping!! From CCV

Crystal Clear Vaping

EDIT: I am a heavy vapor also

 

[Chief-A-Lot]

Putting this back up to see if someone can tell us what's going on inside the tubes...

Hey Helen, I have to assume with the 2 cartos you could not put the needle through (great investigation work BTW) is due to the cut being too deep, cause the center tube to get cut and filler jamming up inside the tube, thus not allowing the needle to fully passthrough it.
BEST advice I can give (As I have done this myself) is to grab a couple dead/crappy cartos and practice the punch or cut method on them, so when its time to go live with it you will know how much pressure and force you need or how deep to cut Without damaging the inner tube. Hell, try to take the filler out then practice to you can see your results.

 

[Vaporologist]

I have never used them but one slot works fine for the Boge. If they wick faster then those one should be plenty.

I do 1 slot on those and it works great for me.
I'm going put 1 hole in one and see how that works I think, just for the heck of it.

Since I use thicker vg liquid (50/50) & very dark colored liquid, instead of making 2 slots I just make a bigger, wider slot. As long as you don't disturb the airway, they work great!

Thank you all!

@Rosco; I'm really curious to hear about your results and also if one or two holes work better...

 

[ED-209]

Chief I am the same as you on TH and I do 24mg.

Can I ask, where do you get some of your 100% VG as I mainly do PG as the 100% VG I've had in the past never gave me a TH and had a weird aftertaste when inhaling and exhaling.

I have tried attys, ce2's, you name it and love these carto tanks, now just gotta get down the carto punching technique.

Thanks