TC: Any reason against it?

[Myk]

I have no issues with locking. I use ArcticFox where you can set manually. I measure as soon as I build it, lock it. I do build over 0.6 ohms which gives me more tollerance but if my vape is too warm I manually increase locked value. If too hot, I decrease it. By now I can guess correct temp when I vape.

However, thats only temporary. In the morning when I wake up and coil was not used for long (also temperature of the room stabilized if summer). I measure again and fine tune.

This way all my coils wotk perfectly within 5 degrees tolerance.

I'm checking that out. I always thought that manual adjusting of the coil should've been a thing back to D2.

For me, the downside of TC is due to me...

Just like when I smoked, I don't hit as hard or inhale as deeply in the am. By evening, I hit the cig a little harder. Same now with vaping - I start at around 8.5W, and over the course of the day, it increases, usually only up to 9.- or 10W.

I really liked TC when I first started it with a DNA, so I just set up different profiles. But that gets kind of fiddly, to know which profile to change to, or change the settings within a profile. And every now and then, I just want a more powerful hit. Using watts allows the temp to increase with longer draws, so it allows for that.

But once I looked at all the data in eScribe, I realized I never approached "dangerous" temp levels anyway, so now I'm back to watts. Much easier just to bump up a half watt or so at a time. Truth is, though - I'm glad I did TC, because it now gives me a little piece of mind. But if you like a consistent vape, TC on a mod that does TC well is fantastic.

That's why I like TC. Sometimes I like it long and slow, sometimes I like it hard and fast. TC adjusts based on what the airflow across the coil is doing. If I want it rough I can bump the temperature. Feel like Tina Turner singing Rollin' on the River.

You certainly haven't sold me on the great god DNA. Different profiles for TC? Is that curves?
To me TC is the same, it's why I like it, no need for different profiles.

 

[Myk]

I have no issues with locking. I use ArcticFox where you can set manually. I measure as soon as I build it, lock it. I do build over 0.6 ohms which gives me more tollerance but if my vape is too warm I manually increase locked value. If too hot, I decrease it. By now I can guess correct temp when I vape.

However, thats only temporary. In the morning when I wake up and coil was not used for long (also temperature of the room stabilized if summer). I measure again and fine tune.

This way all my coils wotk perfectly within 5 degrees tolerance.

LOL, OMG, what have you done?
My RX200 and one of my VTCs look completely different now.

 

[Psihoza]

LOL, OMG, what have you done?
My RX200 and one of my VTCs look completely different now.

Yes, feels like you got a new mod doesnt it?
I hope you used PC tools too, not just to install firmware. Setup profiles, hidden settings and device monitor to finetune your TC config for best temperature curve possible.

Arctic Fox is grrat. Makes Pico feel almost like DNA. Asside from how it looks, inside features are very good like: TFR mode, automatic profile selection based on resistance, 8 saved profiles, PI correction in TC, preheat curves, clock, configurable W/Temp step up/down, clock,draw counter (number or duration), very configurable display amd items on display individually.

In short I strongly recommend reading manual. To make sure you don't miss something. A lot is available only through PC software

 

[Myk]

Yes, feels like you got a new mod doesnt it?
I hope you used PC tools too, not just to install firmware. Setup profiles, hidden settings and device monitor to finetune your TC config for best temperature curve possible.

Arctic Fox is grrat. Makes Pico feel almost like DNA. Asside from how it looks, inside features are very good like: TFR mode, automatic profile selection based on resistance, 8 saved profiles, PI correction in TC, preheat curves, clock, configurable W/Temp step up/down, clock,draw counter (number or duration), very configurable display amd items on display individually.

In short I strongly recommend reading manual. To make sure you don't miss something. A lot is available only through PC software

NFE Tools? Or is there something else?
There's a manual? I was just poking around in NFE tools figuring it out. I'm just happy to be able to set my coils manually. Every TC mod should have that ability. I'll have to grab a cord and get the tools on a laptop to look around more in depth tonight.

All of my VTCs are Arctic Fox now. The one that was wimpy is acting right. The one that was acting right is still acting right (the other one is empty at the moment). This could've made my Cuboid so much better, it was the worst at reading coils, I wonder if it would fix it (dropped to death as far as TC is concerned).

 

[TrollDragon]

This could've made my Cuboid so much better, it was the worst at reading coils, I wonder if it would fix it (dropped to death as far as TC is concerned).

What will fix your Cuboid is to push out that junk Joyetech 510 connector. Use a 1/8 NPT pipe tap down through the hole and thread in one of these.
$2.16 510 Connector w/ Solder Ring Terminal for E-Cigarette - stainless steel + brass / 22mm dia. / 4 air cuts at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Solder the two wires back on and you are good to go.

 

[Psihoza]

NFE Tools? Or is there something else?
There's a manual?

Yes, NFE Tools.
Manual is here: ArcticFox & NFE Tools complete guide

 

[Myk]

What will fix your Cuboid is to push out that junk Joyetech 510 connector. Use a 1/8 NPT pipe tap down through the hole and thread in one of these.
$2.16 510 Connector w/ Solder Ring Terminal for E-Cigarette - stainless steel + brass / 22mm dia. / 4 air cuts at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Solder the two wires back on and you are good to go.

Worth a few dollars to try next time I order from FT. Resistance was still all over the place and wrong with known good builds.

 

[ShowerHead]

Eh, TC is so 2015. Get a C model DNA and put it in Replay mode.

 

[RayofLight62]

Kanthal alloy produces a flavour of the vape which is unique to it.
There is a scientific explanation to it, even if it is not accepted by all vapers, nor it is universal; but I believe it is correct.
So it goes:
Kanthal contain some aluminium in the alloy, so when the wire is heated up, it develops a thin layer of aluminium oxide, which is akin to ceramic. The e-liquid comes in contact with this insulating layer, instead of the bare metal, producing the different flavor that we all appreciate.
Now, regarding TC. I am able to operate a stable TC setup only with DNA, Yihi and Dicodes mods, driving a good RTA single coil made of stainless steel.
Other brands of mods, and premade coils, gave me suboptimal experiences with TC. I don't blame the other brands, or the premade coils; it is just me to find them unstable.
In the end, I don't like the vape produced by the SS coils, so I use TC rarely.

 

[TrollDragon]

One of the biggest problems with new users to TC is the mod. The mass market junk from Smok and iJoy offer TC as a selling feature except they have a very poor implementation of it that is basically unusable. People try TC on one of those mods, have a unsatisfactory experience and chalk up TC as being a waste of time.

It's not until they try TC on a decent chipset such as a DNA, YiHi (top end version) or even one of the Joyetech/Wismec/Eleaf mods using Arctic Fox firmware before they have a good experience with TC.

 

[Myk]

Kanthal alloy produces a flavour of the vape which is unique to it.
There is a scientific explanation to it, even if it is not accepted by all vapers, nor it is universal; but I believe it is correct.
So it goes:
Kanthal contain some aluminium in the alloy, so when the wire is heated up, it develops a thin layer of aluminium oxide, which is akin to ceramic. The e-liquid comes in contact with this insulating layer, instead of the bare metal, producing the different flavor that we all appreciate.
Now, regarding TC. I am able to operate a stable TC setup only with DNA, Yihi and Dicodes mods, driving a good RTA single coil made of stainless steel.
Other brands of mods, and premade coils, gave me suboptimal experiences with TC. I don't blame the other brands, or the premade coils; it is just me to find them unstable.
In the end, I don't like the vape produced by the SS coils, so I use TC rarely.

I've always thought of Kanthal as having a rust flavor to it.

 

[Myk]

One of the biggest problems with new users to TC is the mod. The mass market junk from Smok and iJoy offer TC as a selling feature except they have a very poor implementation of it that is basically unusable. People try TC on one of those mods, have a unsatisfactory experience and chalk up TC as being a waste of time.

It's not until they try TC on a decent chipset such as a DNA, YiHi (top end version) or even one of the Joyetech/Wismec/Eleaf mods using Arctic Fox firmware before they have a good experience with TC.

If someone's first venture into TC was the SMOK or Sigelei I have I could see them swearing off TC. The Smok wasn't even TC at all, it was just a scam trying to pass off a locked in curve as TC. I think a lot of the manufacturers' hopes are to sell a mod that does everything planning on few trying the TC.

I'm shocked YiHi gets as much praise as it does. I got just as much joy and hassle from stock Joyetech. Arctic Fox makes the Joyetechs better but they weren't bad to start with.

I really need to get a DNA board.

 

[DPLongo22]

Nope. Vape what pleases you.

Or to paraphrase Al Davis, "Just vape, baby."

 

[TrollDragon]

If someone's first venture into TC was the SMOK or Sigelei I have I could see them swearing off TC. The Smok wasn't even TC at all, it was just a scam trying to pass off a locked in curve as TC. I think a lot of the manufacturers' hopes are to sell a mod that does everything planning on few trying the TC.

I'm shocked YiHi gets as much praise as it does. I got just as much joy and hassle from stock Joyetech. Arctic Fox makes the Joyetechs better but they weren't bad to start with.

I really need to get a DNA board.

Yes the number of people that use TC is minuscule compared to the power mode users and that is their biggest market. No one buys a DNA to run it in power mode, I get a kick out of the private school kids (19+) coming in with Smok tanks on an SXMini G-Class...

As far as YiHi getting high praise, the upper end chips (SX550j) are very nice, not the same as the lower end boards they offer to Pioneer4U and others. I haven't played around with any of their new chips like the 485j or 580j which should be excellent as well.

As far as DNA, I'm loving the 75C and really need a 250C.

 

[DPLongo22]

No one buys a DNA to run it in power mode

Um...(cough-cough).

Assuming it will do what I need it do, if I like a mod, I buy it. I've got plenty of TC capable mods, including a bunch of DNA & Yihi chipped ones, all of which have never once been in TC mode.

Well, not intentionally at least.

"Just vape, baby."

 

[TrollDragon]

Um...(cough-cough).

Assuming it will do what I need it do, if I like a mod, I buy it. I've got plenty of TC capable mods, including a bunch of DNA & Yihi chipped ones, all of which have never once been in TC mode.

Well, not intentionally at least.

"Just vape, baby."

I was referring more to the unwashed masses.

 

[puffon]

No one buys a DNA to run it in power mode

mmm...I do
I believe when the replay type feature is more widely adopted, more will transition to TC.
Many just want simple.
Also believe the FDA may play a role, only allowing mods with TC.

 

[DPLongo22]

Also believe the FDA may play a role, only allowing mods with TC.

This though assumes they care about anything more than the MSA money, which I'll need to be convinced. I'm pretty sure that we'll either be vaping or not, but I'll be surprised if our ever-efficient governments get this far down into the weeds of the industry.

If vaping, in and of itself, isn't good enough for them, I'll be stunned if one specific type of vaping is (good enough).

 

[Letitia]

No one buys a DNA to run it in power mode,

ahem...yes some of us do

 

[DPLongo22]

ahem...yes some of us do

You bathe too, so you don't count either.