Bill, didn't want to steal you away from your admiring followers. And man you have a boatload. Thank you, thank you. I'm one!
Good luck.
Tensioned Micro Coils. The next step.
- Thread starter super_X_drifter
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
Bill, didn't want to steal you away from your admiring followers. And man you have a boatload. Thank you, thank you. I'm one!
Good luck.
Bill, didn't want to steal you away from your admiring followers. And man you have a boatload. Thank you, thank you. I'm one!
Good luck.
Just trying to PIF it is all.....same as you.
Bill, didn't want to steal you away from your admiring followers. And man you have a boatload. Thank you, thank you. I'm one!
Good luck.
I'm two.
Interesting stuff
Sometimes one needs to look past applied scientific methodology and analogy and run by sheer seat of the pants.
In my two short years of rebuilding and having given birth (thank god it was a small child) to the name micro coil and its association with a much smaller than typical diameter and much more tightly spaced atomizer heating element, I can tell you that there was a big change in seat of the pants feel for myself and thousands of others.
Side effects were more vibrant flavor reproduction, reduced coil gunking and ease of build.
I could theorize on why electric stove top burners are like they are and my conclusion would be because it's prolly cheaper to mass produce. Dunno. But I ain't cooking an omelette - in a pan (that's flat) I'm vaporizing eliquid.
My observations are that most folks who don't experience the potential of tensioned contact micro coils are the result of improper wicking, too few a winds, improper airflow or a combination of same.
But I say vape on bro, it's your coil.
Hey! Hello, stranger!
Nice to see ya'! I'm glad you found this thread, too! Long time!
Yes, been a long while. How ya been? I've been working on the juice side for a while now. Locked into my P3's and Taifun's pretty much full time. What's cookin'?
Been using TMC's for a year now. Learned a lot from the folks here. Developed a coiler and know a little bit about mechanical advantage and TMC's and knock out about 30 a month for the missus and my Taifun's. Not a cloud chaser, but really into the flavoring side of the vape and spend a lot of time on juice.
I can say that since adopting Russ's micro coil and Mac's tension, I get the experience the "EFFECT."
The Effect is a magical point in the vape when efficiencies converge to produce a wonderful flavor and vape unmatched by anything else I've tried. Frankly, once you find the vape in the Effect Zone, there hasn't been a need to look further, or buy new gear, other than the fancy new P3's. I like variable wattage/voltage/amperage, so it's quick and easy. Quick and easy is for me, and TMC's are just that. Throw some homebrew juice in there......NIRVANA. Happy with my vape for a year or more now. Thank you Russ. Thank you Mac. Wonderful advances. Not sure how it could get better, but frankly, doesn't much matter. It's really great in the Zone. Many thanks guys!
I can say that since adopting Russ's micro coil and Mac's tension, I get the experience the "EFFECT."
The Effect is a magical point in the vape when efficiencies converge to produce a wonderful flavor and vape unmatched by anything else I've tried. Frankly, once you find the vape in the Effect Zone, there hasn't been a need to look further, or buy new gear, other than the fancy new P3's. I like variable wattage/voltage/amperage, so it's quick and easy. Quick and easy is for me, and TMC's are just that. Throw some homebrew juice in there......NIRVANA. Happy with my vape for a year or more now. Thank you Russ. Thank you Mac. Wonderful advances. Not sure how it could get better, but frankly, doesn't much matter. It's really great in the Zone. Many thanks guys!
Still searching for my own private vaping nirvana.
P3, eh? I almost bought one, but I got sidetracked by Brandon and John from Evolv and their new temperature limiting DNA 40 chipset. I also discovered, in the process, that I prefer the small form of box mods. The P3 is even bigger and heavier than the original--and for my small(ish) hands is just too much to handle. So I'll probably get the VS DNA 40, or some other box featuring Evolv's DNA 40 board.
In the meantime, I finally decided to start making my own coils. Thanks to you, if I may add. That conversation we had (a long time ago) on the subject made an impression on me. I watched the videos you recommended, and that led me to Mac and Mr. Super X here...
Long story. That said, I did predict that, sooner or later, somebody would make Kayfun-like tanks with premade coils and this is actually happening. Just look at Kanger, Joyetech and Aspire. Too bad that those tanks are designed for sub-ohm/high wattage vapers, as I'm neither. But I'm pretty sure that they will now make similar tanks for the mouth-to-lung, lower wattage vapers.
So there.
It's really nice to talk to you again! Missed your posts in New Members and general forums!
Still searching for my own private vaping nirvana.
P3, eh? I almost bought one, but I got sidetracked by Brandon and John from Evolv and their new temperature limiting DNA 40 chipset. I also discovered, in the process, that I prefer the small form of box mods. The P3 is even bigger and heavier than the original--and for my small(ish) hands is just too much to handle. So I'll probably get the VS DNA 40, or some other box featuring Evolv's DNA 40 board.
In the meantime, I finally decided to start making my own coils. Thanks to you, if I may add. That conversation we had (a long time ago) on the subject made an impression on me. I watched the videos you recommended, and that led me to Mac and Mr. Super X here...
That said, I did predict that, sooner or later, somebody would make Kayfun-like tanks with premade coils and this is actually happening. Just look at Kanger, Joyetech and Aspire. Too bad that those tanks are designed for sub-ohm/high wattage vapers, as I'm neither. But I'm pretty sure that they will now make similar tanks for the mouth-to-lung, lower wattage vapers.
So there.
It's really nice to talk to you again! Missed your posts in New Members and general forums!
You go coiler girl!!! Glad to hear this news!
I miss the New Members Forum, but there are so many that can share there, and once I found my ADV's, gear and juice, I didn't keep up with the latest and thought others could do a great job with the new members! I post a lot on the TFA Flavor Thread these days (last six months or so), trying to help new DIY'ers do the juice thing easily and quickly. Love my TMC's and will happily follow this thread. Many friends here! So happy to hear from you! All sounds great!
Just wanted to announce I will now be lurking here.
On a somewhat related note, I need a 2.5, 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0 mm drill blank and a pin vise that can handle blanks this size. (Mine can maybe handle 2.5 mm, but anything more is a struggle).
I'm vaping on a marquis right now (flipping LOVE it with twisted 27 gauge at about 0.27 ohm around the 2.5 mm mandrel, but wasn't a proper tensioned coil.
On a somewhat related note, I need a 2.5, 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0 mm drill blank and a pin vise that can handle blanks this size. (Mine can maybe handle 2.5 mm, but anything more is a struggle).
I'm vaping on a marquis right now (flipping LOVE it with twisted 27 gauge at about 0.27 ohm around the 2.5 mm mandrel, but wasn't a proper tensioned coil.
Last edited:
Hey come on now, don't get Bill all caught up in the coils now!! We need to harass him in the TFA thread too often!!
Hi B and welcome.
Simple answer is a tensioned micro coil allows you to put more wire mass within a potential coil/wick volume area concentrating the power in that internal volume of wick. Internal pressure builds rapidly in a wick of properly matched density to the wind resulting in a lowering of the the vaporization point temperature internally. This in my opinion is what delivers the net increase in efficiency over an open wind within the same geometric volume. Why those sampling a true t.m.c. report a cooler vape. They are describing a rapid phase transition at the given resistance, i.e. more vapor production.
A t.m.c. doesn't gunk more. That's contingent upon by how much juice is processed;
A t.m.c. doesn't heat up or cool down faster. That's dependent upon the mass of wire deployed;
A t.m.c. doesn't heat up adjacent wire driving up resistance. By promoting rapid vaporization the element runs cooler.
A t.m.c. doesn't form a pipe. Fissures large and small exist due to diameter and oxidation imperfections which force vapor release throughout the wind.
A few thoughts of my own to consider as we try an actual t.m.c. What is the vape temperature I am sensing? How does it relate to a standard wind?
At the end of the day what matters is how efficiently the heat energy we're applying to the juice provokes transition.
Good luck all.
Last edited:
Hey come on now, don't get Bill all caught up in the coils now!! We need to harass him in the TFA thread too often!!
Right! Let's keep him at the grindstone!
Welcome mono.
I didn't even know there was a new MC thread til earlier tonight!! Subbed the minute I found it! If there was no Mac, Drifter, or Bill, I'd still be buying replacement Kanger heads and overpriced store bought juice!! No way I'm missing this!
If there was no Mac, Drifter, or Bill, I'd still be buying replacement Kanger heads and overpriced store bought juice!! No way I'm missing this! 
This has deffinitely piqued my curiosity, and I'll be keeping an eye on this thread!
-Kingboomer
-Kingboomer
I didn't even know there was a new MC thread til earlier tonight!! Subbed the minute I found it!
Thank Russ for the idea to extend his expansive microcoil photo testimonial into the t.m.c. realm. He persuaded me to move on beyond the Protank and join him. A t.m.c. for the all of us!
Good luck M.
p.s. Pass the word!
Last edited:
Ahh yes I kinda want to get a Taifun clone to try cause of Bills praise for them, but I just got 2 Kayfun 4s last month!! Tax returns here though.. I'll have lots left after getting my Sigelei mini!!
Tax returns here though.. I'll have lots left after getting my Sigelei mini!!
You guys left me over there, in the other thread. I was feeling sad and lonely.
Hey come on now, don't get Bill all caught up in the coils now!! We need to harass him in the TFA thread too often!!
Well, you guys will just have to learn how to share.
TMC and nickel? Still viable? Is the tension different?.................thoughts...........
- Status
Similar threads
