The BF experiment

[mackman]

I didn't feel comfortable drilling the insulator with the post in. It didn't appear to have sufficient space for an adequate feed channel. I removed the post only and channeled the insulator. When I popped the post the insulator didn't budge and I didn't want to chance damaging it by trying to remove it.

Either method will work it depends on what one feels comfortable with and how one perceives the result.

 

[MamaTried]

edit:..on 2nd thought I'm going to hedge my bet and insert the word "try"

... curious Mama.. are you down a wing? ... if so, and I manage to not make a mess of this...we should rename it the "Mama Method"... or are you going to expect a fortune in naming rights?

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pretty much. right hand went numb a few years ago. (yeh, i was a rightie)

i donate any real or imaginary naming rights to Reoville

 

[tmassey]

Has anyone tried modding a helios for b/f ? because if anyone knows how to mod a split positive post that would be cool. not sure how to get the positive post out for modding,but it would be cool if anyone has.

 

[Quigsworth]

pretty much. right hand went numb a few years ago. (yeh, i was a rightie)

i donate any real or imaginary naming rights to Reoville

That sucks, though if something is going to go numb...could be worse

So I concede defeat on the one hand Mama Method...problem is, the Ehpro Atomic insulator is waaay better than I gave it credit. I gave up on the candle to heat the needle and went to a MAP gas torch...I just ended up destroying the needle...that insulator can take some serious heat...so I went back to drilling the insulator (pin in). It works fine but you need a pretty small drill bit...to speed up the process I chucked the pin vice with looks like a .5 mm bit (don't ask me what # size it is, it came with the pin vice set) then I chucked the pin vice in a battery drill...if you're gonna drill it by hand, pack a lunch...

bottom line is, attacking the insulator is just as good as slotting the pin, in fact, seeing as the hole(s) are vertical and right at the deck, suck back is about as good as you're going to get. Verdict, drilling down through the insulator with the pin still in, while time consuming (and you'll still need to buy a pin vice set) is about as easy as it's going to get...and it works pretty good (note: if you run 100% VG and you live in the arctic, you may want to drill 3-4 holes)...just one guys opinion...

 

[Quigsworth]

Has anyone tried modding a helios for b/f ? because if anyone knows how to mod a split positive post that would be cool. not sure how to get the positive post out for modding,but it would be cool if anyone has.

Just did a Ehpro Helios clone (can't comment on the original)...scribe the center pin at the deck line then press the pin out (needless to say the pin gets driven up, not down)...slot the pin on one side till it goes just past your mark then drill across to feed the other side...I don't like the idea of slotting both sides, it unnecessarily removes too much "conductor"...SS isn't the best as it is, no point in making it worse.

I tried drilling up the center of the pin from the bottom but it's a strange grade of SS...it grabbed the bit and snapped it off, I slotted afterwards to 1. complete the job and 2. get the remnants of what was left of my drill bit back

 

[mackman]

That sucks, though if something is going to go numb...could be worse

So I concede defeat on the one hand Mama Method...problem is, the Ehpro Atomic insulator is waaay better than I gave it credit. I gave up on the candle to heat the needle and went to a MAP gas torch...I just ended up destroying the needle...that insulator can take some serious heat...so I went back to drilling the insulator (pin in). It works fine but you need a pretty small drill bit...to speed up the process I chucked the pin vice with looks like a .5 mm bit (don't ask me what # size it is, it came with the pin vice set) then I chucked the pin vice in a battery drill...if you're gonna drill it by hand, pack a lunch...

bottom line is, attacking the insulator is just as good as slotting the pin, in fact, seeing as the hole(s) are vertical and right at the deck, suck back is about as good as you're going to get. Verdict, drilling down through the insulator with the pin still in, while time consuming (and you'll still need to buy a pin vice set) is about as easy as it's going to get...and it works pretty good (note: if you run 100% VG and you live in the arctic, you may want to drill 3-4 holes)...just one guys opinion...

I wholeheartedly agree about drilling the insulator and its hardness. It has to be HDPE. The insulator channels nicely with the dremel bit with some elbow grease.
I popped the post on mine and dremeled another channel on the opposite side of the insulator (wanted more juice flow).

Conclusion: a very easy mod for a very nice clone

 

[tmassey]

Ook I get it now.... Just push the pin up. Can't do that with most atties. All the time I spent trying to unscrew the T post was wasted lol...Will try this sometime soon. If it works I will finally be unable to restrain myself from one of those fancy Lp grands. Hard to beat a Helios IMO .


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[Ian444]

I don't think this little atty has come up, unless I missed it? Its a 14mm base with dual coil posts and dual airholes. Thought some of the dual-coil guys might be interested, looks the same as a Mini A6 with an extra neg post and 2 airholes, (the Mini A6 is a great little atty).

https://highdesertvapes.com/products/A6-Dual-Coil-Stainless-Steel-Rebuildable-Atomizer.html

 

[TyCreek]

I don't think this little atty has come up, unless I missed it? Its a 14mm base with dual coil posts and dual airholes. Thought some of the dual-coil guys might be interested, looks the same as a Mini A6 with an extra neg post and 2 airholes, (the Mini A6 is a great little atty).

https://highdesertvapes.com/products/A6-Dual-Coil-Stainless-Steel-Rebuildable-Atomizer.html

I tried a BF A6 mini for a day or two ...

 

[Ian444]

Beautiful pic Tycreek, that pic would also look good posted here, if it hasn't already...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-family-photos-storage-ideas-part-ii-383.html

 

[tmassey]

Does anyone know if that mini a6 will fit in a non l/p? It says 14.25 so it would be a close fit. Would be pretty nifty if it did, may even delay my ordering a Lp. Even further


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[Quigsworth]

That A6 looks like it could be a little rocket though I bet .5 worth of duals on that bad boy would be a throat burner...

I've been looking at picking up one of these... Magma RDA Clone - Mr Vapor Man and Review of the Magma by Paradigm Clone - YouTube

could be a challenge to bf (or could be a piece of cake) but I dig the airhole thing coming up out of the deck...

thoughts?

 

[Ian444]

Does anyone know if that mini a6 will fit in a non l/p? It says 14.25 so it would be a close fit. Would be pretty nifty if it did,

Yes it will fit.

 

[Kentastic]

That A6 looks like it could be a little rocket though I bet .5 worth of duals on that bad boy would be a throat burner...

I've been looking at picking up one of these... Magma RDA Clone - Mr Vapor Man and Review of the Magma by Paradigm Clone - YouTube

could be a challenge to bf (or could be a piece of cake) but I dig the airhole thing coming up out of the deck...

thoughts?

Kinda top heavy, but it's actually a little skinnier than the Origen v2. I just re-coiled it or I'd break it down and see how hard it would be.

 

[Kentastic]

I think you actually can just drill a hole in the screw. Straight shot all the way up to the bottom of the drip well. Or maybe the delrin piece around the screw. The firing pin screw actually screws into a L shaped piece of metal. The long side of the L is the positive posts, the short side has threading for the screw. Basically makes it a non-adjustable firing pin because if you loosen the pin screw, you loosen the positive post.

You can see what I'm talking about in this review by "Hi guys, Todd here".

http://youtu.be/pTLEB0NurGo?t=5m58s

 

[Quigsworth]

Nice, thanks Kent...that totally makes sense...this looks like a piece of cake...should find out next weekend, got an Infinity clone coming

 

[sllanham]

I modded my old Igo-L tonight. I slotted the insulator and made the 510 connector flat where the slot is. It works. It feeds really well. I'll try some others later on but I'd call this first attempt successful.

 

[gdeal]

Nice, thanks Kent...that totally makes sense...this looks like a piece of cake...should find out next weekend, got an Infinity clone coming

Interested to see how this comes out. The Inifinite version seems to have a slightly different positive insulator. Not that its gonna really get in your way of doing the mod....

 

[elscorcho]

Just picked up a couple of Trident V2 clones from FT to practice modding on.........Are the copper centers safe with all juices or will I be vaping copper eaten away by acidic juices?

 

[MikeMills]

Just picked up a couple of Trident V2 clones from FT to practice modding on.........Are the copper centers safe with all juices or will I be vaping copper eaten away by acidic juices?

Seems like copper atty's are popular now, I wouldn't worry about it too much.

You can taste the difference though using all SS vs the cloned atty's.